Potential Teague 825 Motor/Drive Setup thoughts?

[hre423]

Considering an Eliminator Daytona 25 with a Teague 825 with a XR platinum upper and imco sc-2 lower. Originally wasn't looking for anything with boost but with only 170 original hull hours and about half that on the motor, I'm thinking about this one. What do you guys think as far as reliability goes or just overall thoughts on this setup? Thanks

 

[ChrisV]

Considering an Eliminator Daytona 25 with a Teague 825 with a XR platinum upper and imco sc-2 lower. Originally wasn't looking for anything with boost but with only 170 original hull hours and about half that on the motor, I'm thinking about this one. What do you guys think as far as reliability goes or just overall thoughts on this setup? Thanks

400-500hrs on the engine.

Drives are a hit or miss depending how you treat it.

 

[port austin pirate]

guy I know has a Teague I think around 800 supercharged engine and drive in a 28 Eliminator seems to have been very reliable for him and I was really impressed with how well it handled low speed for docking, No personal experience but from what I've seen heard and read very reliable and stand behind their work

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Good luck getting insurance. If you find some let me know. I can’t insure my 26 Eagle with a TCM.

About 80-90 hours on the motor is nothing, just keep up on the seasonal maintenance by a Teague shop (such as Barrett in LHC).

I run an SCX but if you go easy on the drive that setup should last a good time. Again watch the maintenance and check for any metal seasonally.

 

[One2go]

Good luck getting insurance. If you find some let me know. I can’t insure my 26 Eagle with a TCM.

About 80-90 hours on the motor is nothing, just keep up on the seasonal maintenance by a Teague shop (such as Barrett in LHC).

I run an SCX but if you go easy on the drive that setup should last a good time. Again watch the maintenance and check for any metal seasonally.

Not to jack the thread but Check in with Nick Rose insurance. They insure my vdrive with big hp. They also support boat racing as in sponsoring.

 

[Outdrive1]

Teague has made hundreds of those 800/825’s. They are super reliable. You shouldn’t have any issues with it. XR drive? Good luck. You really need an SCX upper IMO even though they rob some power.

 

[Boat 405]

Motor is great. You'll need an SCX/SC lower for realistic longevity. A regular XR or SC or beefed upper just won't last behind that motor I don't care how nice you are to it. I have 860hp and I was destroying SC uppers at 100hrs no matter what I did. I switched to an SCX/SC and at 150hrs I had it torn apart and it looked great. We put new gears in the SC lower and flipped the gears in the SCX upper with new clutches and it's ready for another 150 hrs.

 

[hre423]

Motor is great. You'll need an SCX/SC lower for realistic longevity. A regular XR or SC or beefed upper just won't last behind that motor I don't care how nice you are to it. I have 860hp and I was destroying SC uppers at 100hrs no matter what I did. I switched to an SCX/SC and at 150hrs I had it torn apart and it looked great. We put new gears in the SC lower and flipped the gears in the SCX upper with new clutches and it's ready for another 150 hrs.

Teague has made hundreds of those 800/825’s. They are super reliable. You shouldn’t have any issues with it. XR drive? Good luck. You really need an SCX upper IMO even though they rob some power.

Just learned that it is a Teague built XR platinum. Still looking at upgrading to an SCX in the near future or does that change anything?

 

[Mack]

All depends on how you treat it. I have the 985 and Teague beefed up my drive going on 10 or 11 years now with out anything apart since teague installed it. You can destroy in a hurry if you don’t respect the power I run a 30 4 Blade prop on a 27 Daytona can run a 32 but it slips more getting on plane I just don’t need the 130 top end everyday so the 30 gets on plane very smoothly and without abusing the drive

 

[hre423]

All depends on how you treat it. I have the 985 and Teague beefed up my drive going on 10 or 11 years now with out anything apart since teague installed it. You can destroy in a hurry if you don’t respect the power I run a 30 4 Blade prop on a 27 Daytona can run a 32 but it slips more getting on plane I just don’t need the 130 top end everyday so the 30 gets on plane very smoothly and without abusing the drive

Got it. It’s a 25 daytona running a 28 4 blade and the Teague XR upper was just rebuilt. Looking like a pretty reliable setup for family use. Thanks!

 

[Mack]

I am In Texas and Teague has always been able to take care of any issue\question over the phone I have had with my motor great support

 

[Melloyellovector]

Got it. It’s a 25 daytona running a 28 4 blade and the Teague XR upper was just rebuilt. Looking like a pretty reliable setup for family use. Thanks!

Teague 825 with platinum drive combo and that prop, it’s likely a 1:36 gear ratio. Motor should be great, drive depends how you drive. Platinum is basically a glorified XR drive. It’s what Teague puts w that motor package. Be nice to it getting on plane, and chop the throttle if you catch air. Start saving for a future SCX

Just keep in mind. Reliable is subjective. That’s a high performance package. It will require high performance maintenance and repairs. So when stuff does break, if your on a budget, you may want to put money away every month for future repairs and maint.

regardless of boat cost
avg hp = avg maint costs
mid hp = mid maint costs and creeping up
high hp = high maint costs = big boy toys - typically not for the budget minded family looking to make semi good financial choices

 

[RiverDave]

All depends on how you treat it. I have the 985 and Teague beefed up my drive going on 10 or 11 years now with out anything apart since teague installed it. You can destroy in a hurry if you don’t respect the power I run a 30 4 Blade prop on a 27 Daytona can run a 32 but it slips more getting on plane I just don’t need the 130 top end everyday so the 30 gets on plane very smoothly and without abusing the drive

Did you just say your 27 Daytona runs 130 mph with 985hp and a 32???

 

[HBCraig]

Good luck getting insurance. If you find some let me know. I can’t insure my 26 Eagle with a TCM.

About 80-90 hours on the motor is nothing, just keep up on the seasonal maintenance by a Teague shop (such as Barrett in LHC).

I run an SCX but if you go easy on the drive that setup should last a good time. Again watch the maintenance and check for any metal seasonally.

You csnt insure a V hull with that?
I am thing of putting an 825 in my 247.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

You csnt insure a V hull with that?
I am thing of putting an 825 in my 247.

Wozencraft wouldn’t, State Farm (Nick Bostick) almost did until their underwriter researched Teague, declared them a high performance engine and promptly cancelled me. Ive talked to a few others with no success.

Let’s see now, I’ve been driving a boat before I was legal in a car, I’m on a lake that requires its own drivers license above and beyond the CA boaters card and CA drivers license AND the lake has a 35mph speed limit and they have their own lake cops enforcing it. Why do they give AF about how fast the boat *could* go and not look at where I’m actually boating?

I’m going to try that X Insurance and someone else mentioned Nick Rose.

Maybe if you boat in AZ it’s less of a problem but in CA it seems the insurance companies are running away.

 

[Tank]

Teague builds a fantastic motor.

That SC800 is a solid piece. Buddy had over 400 trouble free hours on his before he sold the boat. Bob backs his shut. Wealth of knowledge etc.

As far as insurance. I didn’t have an issue insuring 2,000 HP. went through Wozencraft.

 

[ChrisV]

Not sure if you will be doing your own maintenance but so far this is what it cost me doing it myself.

Oil Change with Amsoil and wix filter. 16 quarts
$350

Spark plugs
$42

Fuel Filter
$30

Drive Oil
Amsoil 5 quarts
$125

Carb Teague 800 with platinum drive also.

I've put about 25hrs on it so far and loving it. Hope you get it.

 

[Melloyellovector]

Not sure if you will be doing your own maintenance but so far this is what it cost me doing it myself.

Oil Change with Amsoil and wix filter. 16 quarts
$350

Spark plugs
$42

Fuel Filter
$30

Drive Oil
Amsoil 5 quarts
$125

Carb Teague 800 with platinum drive also.

I've put about 25hrs on it so far and loving it. Hope you get it.

Does this Teague make my ass look big?

 

[Tank]

Does this Teague make my ass look big? View attachment 1423744

Damn, that was quick work. I was there Tuesday and the old motor wasn't even out of it yet!!

 

[Mack]

Yes Dave it will run 130 with the 32 pitch prop when light with the 30 pitch prop it will run 115 with 2 adults and 2 teenagers and cooler. With the canopies and not full windshield anything light not put up will exit the boat above 110. Passengers can not hold and open drink about 90 or the liquid will be sucked out of the can or cup.

 

[ToMorrow44]

Considering an Eliminator Daytona 25 with a Teague 825 with a XR platinum upper and imco sc-2 lower. Originally wasn't looking for anything with boost but with only 170 original hull hours and about half that on the motor, I'm thinking about this one. What do you guys think as far as reliability goes or just overall thoughts on this setup? Thanks

I had a Teague 825 and TCM Platinum XR in my 27 Advantage for 15 years before I sold it. New owner loves it. I never had an issue with it, turn the key it fired right up, idles at 800rpm easy in/out of gear around the dock. I used the boat for everything from tubing and wakeboarding to poker runs. I usually got 200ish hours out of the drive before a gear would start to pit, replace the gear(s) and reuse everything else. Never had any catastrophic failures. Overall very reliable package.

 

[boatnam2]

Just learned that it is a Teague built XR platinum. Still looking at upgrading to an SCX in the near future or does that change anything?

I had 2 of these motors with bravo and the platinum will last if you are not crazy hard on it, it never did break but was worn out at inspection but that was quite a few years on drive, and I drove it pretty hard.

 

[Jonas Grumby]

I have a healthy, 825 Teague , (Quadrotor) that was in front of a XR upper sc lower. Lived fine due to I know how to get on plane without killing it. Due to something that went wrong on XR refresh, it blew up. Now I am SCX upper SC lower. I feel pretty bullitt proof. I did lose about 5 mph.. I have about 50 hours on the new drive thus far. Change lube every 10 hours. So far, so good.

 

[MooreMoney]

I had a 825 teague motor in a f29. Loved that motor and boat. Sounded awesome when firing up.

 

[Flatsix66]

I have a Teague 825 with Platinum drive in our Lavey 29 NuEra. It's been flawless over the last four years. Teague really stands behind his stuff. I called the shop one day to buy a prop, Bob answered and he asked about the motor, looked up the build sheet from ten years ago. Verified that my motor doesn't have a batch of bad rockers from a years ago, I never even asked.

 

[HBCraig]

What's a ballpark price for an 825?
Roughly

 

[Jonas Grumby]

What's a ballpark price for an 825?
Roughly

$60k

 

[Jonas Grumby]

Yes Dave it will run 130 with the 32 pitch prop when light with the 30 pitch prop it will run 115 with 2 adults and 2 teenagers and cooler. With the canopies and not full windshield anything light not put up will exit the boat above 110. Passengers can not hold and open drink about 90 or the liquid will be sucked out of the can or cup.

 

[Melloyellovector]

Damn, that was quick work. I was there Tuesday and the old motor wasn't even out of it yet!!

just prepping it to send it for glass and gel work. Not final install yet. But soon
attempting to have ready for HIH in October

 

[Tank]

just prepping it to send it for glass and gel work. Not final install yet. But soon
attempting to have ready for HIH in October

Nice!!! That things gonna scoot!!!

 

[dave29]

Teague has made hundreds of those 800/825’s. They are super reliable. You shouldn’t have any issues with it. XR drive? Good luck. You really need an SCX upper IMO even though they rob some power.

Outdrive 1 is right. Bob's engines are super reliable. I had a 1000 hp Teague motor in my 21'RC. Stsrted first time every time and never had any problems. Bob keeps records on every motor he builds and the same for his Platinum drives. Give Bob a call.

 

[Melloyellovector]

Not sure if you will be doing your own maintenance but so far this is what it cost me doing it myself.

Oil Change with Amsoil and wix filter. 16 quarts
$350

Spark plugs
$42

Fuel Filter
$30

Drive Oil
Amsoil 5 quarts
$125

Carb Teague 800 with platinum drive also.

I've put about 25hrs on it so far and loving it. Hope you get it.

What broke today? Post revised budget

 

[Justsomeguy]

What broke today? Post revised budget

Ouch. Sooooo how much are those scx uppers?

 

[ChrisV]

What broke today? Post revised budget

 

[Melloyellovector]

that sucks, good thing your crafty like that, you got this.

 

[Melloyellovector]

Ouch. Sooooo how much are those scx uppers?

Scx upper just shy of 13,000.00 plus labor

 

[Rennsport]

View attachment 1426797 View attachment 1426798

from the color material appears to be 300M (black oxide post processing yields this exact color) - probably one of the best materials in this application. Broke right where it necks down to its long dimension diameter. Hard to tell from the pictures if there was a fracture (beach marks) then failure. The smallest mark from machining in that area will be a stress concentration. Bummer to see..

 

[ChrisV]

from the color material appears to be 300M (black oxide post processing yields this exact color) - probably one of the best materials in this application. Broke right where it necks down to its long dimension diameter. Hard to tell from the pictures if there was a fracture (beach marks) then failure. The smallest mark from machining in that area will be a stress concentration. Bummer to see..

It’s a Teague torsional shaft. I believe this was best case.

 

[JFMFG]

It’s a Teague torsional shaft. I believe this was best case.
View attachment 1426826

What’s that shaft cost 800-1000

 

[Justsomeguy]

Scx upper just shy of 13,000.00 plus labor

He got lucky. Its just a shaft. He's very familiar with those.

 

[Good Stuff]

What’s that shaft cost 800-1000

It was around that for the Mercury one when I broke mine 4 years ago.

 

[Rennsport]

Yeah the shaft is the perfect place to take out shock loads - it is a torsion spring much like an input shaft to a gearbox in a car. That diameter essentially dictates spring rate. Stiffer it is made, just transmits loads downstream.

We designed our driveshafts for the open wheel race cars with this in mind - drivers curb hopping on track et al. Most of the shafts were hollow for a few reasons other than weight. It is an interesting compromise.

 

[Mikemo_SDS]

As most have said already, Teague makes a superior product and has far superior customer relations/service. The drive will be the weak link until you put a SCX upper and an SC lower built by Teague behind it.

 

[Havaduner]

OK, I'll play. I've got a Teague 800/825. Got 432 hours before we decided to rebuild. It was time.
As for the drive, I've got a Teague Platinum XR drive. Total hours on the drive are 632. It went 200 hours with 1.5 gears behind a 720, when I upgraded to the 800. We switched it to 1.3 with the 800. I lost one upper gear set at approx 100 hours behind the 800. I did replace the uppers again since then, but that was for peace of mind. Take it easy rolling on plane, and if you unload the prop get out of the throttle, and go have fun!

 

[Mikemo_SDS]

OK, I'll play. I've got a Teague 800/825. Got 432 hours before we decided to rebuild. It was time.
As for the drive, I've got a Teague Platinum XR drive. Total hours on the drive are 632. It went 200 hours with 1.5 gears behind a 720, when I upgraded to the 800. We switched it to 1.3 with the 800. I lost one upper gear set at approx 100 hours behind the 800. I did replace the uppers again since then, but that was for peace of mind. Take it easy rolling on plane, and if you unload the prop get out of the throttle, and go have fun!

What boat was this in?

 

[Havaduner]

What boat was this in?

26 Cobra Venom

 

[farmo83]

A friend of ours has a 30 daytona with 825 and platinum. He lost one drive in 12 years.

 

[Mikemo_SDS]

26 Cobra Venom

I love hearing that other people are happy with their Teague packages!