Possible new helmet laws coming to a CA desert near you......

[jesco]

Fish posted this on IG..... When the ProR was released I told my buddy this would likely happen and all the buggy guys are REALLLLLLY gonna hate SXSs for opening the door.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yes it was only a matter of time.

Take note. Because this is what happens when you ask for more regulations anywhere in the desert and on the water.

 

[Deckin Around]

Its in the Pro-R thread discussion today

 

[HALLETT BOY]

I talked to San Bernardino sheriffs at the sand show a while back , that seemed to be their main focus , writing citations for no helmet off road driving ANYTHING .

 

[Hammer]

Well that blows......

 

[Dunerking]

I can’t understand why anyone wouldn’t want to wear a helmet while flying along in the desert/dunes. The human skull can only take a certain amount of contact before things go bad.

 

[Yldboyz]

Doesn't surprise me at all.

 

[evantwheeler]

Fish posted this on IG..... When the ProR was released I told my buddy this would likely happen and all the buggy guys are REALLLLLLY gonna hate SXSs for opening the door. View attachment 1222759

Where do the citizens of the State get to vote on this?

 

[evantwheeler]

Yes it was only a matter of time.

Take note. Because this is what happens when you ask for more regulations anywhere in the desert and on the water.

Who TF asked for more regulations?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Who TF asked for more regulations?

Go look in any thread on RDP related to a desert, towing or boating incident. They are full of handwringing.

Had all the pro R drivers just obeyed the little sticker in the car that says wear yore helmet, no one would have noticed

 

[Englewood]

I am as against gov regulation as anyone. However, Is this really that big of a deal? It's a helmet, not really a big deal.

The head injuries I've seen make it a no brainer.

 

[EmpirE231]

leave it to SxS's to continue ruining everything lol

 

[Bpracing1127]

Where do the citizens of the State get to vote on this?

They voted their district rep already. tough love

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

They voted their district rep already. tough love

Yep. Dem supermajority in CA, and everyone wonders how it got that way.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I am as against gov regulation as anyone. However, Is this really that big of a deal? It's a helmet, not really a big deal.

The head injuries I've seen make it a no brainer.

The giant metal bar next to your head in a sand car is safe.. but the one next to you in a UTV isn’t.

I agree.. I was surprised they weren’t mandatory already to be honest.

 

[coolchange]

I am as against gov regulation as anyone. However, Is this really that big of a deal? It's a helmet, not really a big deal.

The head injuries I've seen make it a no brainer.

It’s not really a big deal, it’s a thousand little deals. Let’s see how everyone feels about it when they jump in to put the car on the trailer then get jacked for no helmet, then, cause, and then a dui, because you were done for the day…

 

[evantwheeler]

Go look in any thread on RDP related to a desert, towing or boating incident. They are full of handwringing.

Had all the pro R drivers just obeyed the little sticker in the car that says wear yore helmet, no one would have noticed

The dipshits on this website have zero effect on government policy.

This has nothing to do with ProR drivers obeying little stickers, this is the result of Polaris giving the 999cc rule the middle finger.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The dipshits on this website have zero effect on government policy.

This has nothing to do with ProR drivers obeying little stickers, this is the result of Polaris giving the 999cc rule the middle finger.

Well the dipshits here vote these people in that make the stupid rules… so there is that.

There was no 999 rule that bound any manufacturer from making cars with more than 1000 cc. From a safety perspective they all should wear helmets but like free states, CA gives you no choice in the matter.

The average cop (and regulators) would not have even realized this was an issue if the Pro R owners weren’t galavanting around the CA desert helmet-less laughing a cops trying to ticket them.

 

[spark2678]

A few over on GD.com are pretty adement that there is an amendment coming and the term ROHV won't apply to sand rails.

 

[jeteater1]

My friend Billy would still be here if he had a helmet on. Last words ,Just going for a putt.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

It’s not really a big deal, it’s a thousand little deals. Let’s see how everyone feels about it when they jump in to put the car on the trailer then get jacked for no helmet, then, cause, and then a dui, because you were done for the day…

That’s what UTV owners already have to do.

 

[sirbob]

I haven’t been following this at all - what does it have to do with the ProR?

 

[Bigbore500r]

That’s what UTV owners already have to do.

You put your helmet on to load your car on the trailer? lol

 

[Hammer]

A few over on GD.com are pretty adement that there is an amendment coming and the term ROHV won't apply to sand rails.

If someone would argue what the difference is between a sand rail and a car off-road is valid. If you must wear a helmet in a sand car off-road than you could make the argument that you should have to wear a helmet off-road in a street legal car. The sand-rail is actually safer structurally than a street legal car. Are you going to require jeepers/trucks etc.... to carry a helmet around in case they want to head up a fire road? Where does the line in the sand end?

I'm in the stance of personal responsibility. If you are 18 and don't want to wear a helmet that's on you, that includes any off-road vehicle. The government should stay out of such regulation.

 

[Hammer]

I haven’t been following this at all - what does it have to do with the ProR?

Pro R has over 999CC's which by law does not require a helmet to operate off-road.

 

[Bigbore500r]

I haven’t been following this at all - what does it have to do with the ProR?

Pro-R was the first car (and currently the only car) to exceed the 999cc limit in the CA UTV qualfications, making it technically exempt from requiring helmets. CA is closing that loophole, and the verbiage being used in the updated laws no longer has a cc limit at all - meaning it can be applied to any OHV with seats and a steering wheel.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

It’s not really a big deal, it’s a thousand little deals. Let’s see how everyone feels about it when they jump in to put the car on the trailer then get jacked for no helmet, then, cause, and then a dui, because you were done for the day…

It's not a bug, it is a feature. Anything for PC...

 

[Albert]

This…

 

[stonehenge]

I can’t understand why anyone wouldn’t want to wear a helmet while flying along in the desert/dunes. The human skull can only take a certain amount of contact before things go bad.

I think some do not like the "fag, nanny, karen, to much govt control," telling them they have to wear a helmet. I think to some it is a personal liberty thing.

 

[Dunerking]

If someone would argue what the difference is between a sand rail and a car off-road is valid. If you must wear a helmet in a sand car off-road than you could make the argument that you should have to wear a helmet off-road in a street legal car. The sand-rail is actually safer structurally than a street legal car. Are you going to require jeepers/trucks etc.... to carry a helmet around in case they want to head up a fire road? Where does the line in the sand end?

I'm in the stance of personal responsibility. If you are 18 and don't want to wear a helmet that's on you, that includes any off-road vehicle. The government should stay out of such regulation.

I’m typically not the argumentative type,but I’d have to beg to differ that a Sand Car chassis is structurally safer than a street legal car that has air bags and crumple zones designed into the structure. Maybe a Class 1 built Alumicraft or Jimco type car is safer but not a Sand Car. Either way I’d still wear a helmet,but that being said I’d wear a helmet while riding a street bike. Skulls don’t hold up well to impacts. But I do feel it should be up to the individual operator.

 

[coolchange]

You put your helmet on to load your car on the trailer? lol

The scenario I laid out was not hypothetical, it happened.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I’m typically not the argumentative type,but I’d have to beg to differ that a Sand Car chassis is structurally safer than a street legal car that has air bags and crumple zones designed into the structure. Maybe a Class 1 built Alumicraft or Jimco type car is safer but not a Sand Car. Either way I’d still wear a helmet,but that being said I’d wear a helmet while riding a street bike. Skulls don’t hold up well to impacts. But I do feel it should be up to the individual operator.

I was going to say the same thing. Without a helmet and proper safety gear the sand car is probably the least safe of all of 4 wheeled OHVs out there. You’ve got non moving steel tubes a few inches from your head. A minor incident could be deadly very quickly.

I’m all for personal choice, but sand cars and buggies are far less safe with no helmet on, let’s not kid ourselves.

 

[Bigbore500r]

The scenario I laid out was not hypothetical, it happened.

That's insane

 

[pixrthis]

I personally like helmets but could care less if someone else wants to fly around the dunes without one.

 

[Your ad here]

I am as against gov regulation as anyone. However, Is this really that big of a deal? It's a helmet, not really a big deal.

The head injuries I've seen make it a no brainer.

Yes it is a big deal because other (stupid) laws will snowball from this. Wearing a helmet should be a personal choice. Its a decision that only effects that person. When you force laws like these onto people you are taking away their rights to make decisions for themselves, decisions that only effects them. I see people in Az all the time riding motorcycles without helmets and the only thing that goes through my mind is how the hell is their hat staying on. If they crash and scatter their brains all over, not my brains but theirs, it was their decision to not wear a helmet and those were the consequences of their decision. It has no effect on me one bit. It's sad someone lost their life but I'm not going to force rules on others as I wouldn't want rules force upon me that would only effect myself and not the masses. I'm not against wearing helmets at all but if someone wants to go for a ride without wearing a helmet, by all means let them.
Here's another thing to think about with this helmet law. I wonder how many young kids will have broken necks because they're to young to have that weight on their head while bouncing around in a SXS?

 

[brgrcru]

I started wearing my helmet on the last dune trip in my sand car . I actually like it . Only because I get roosted . And walla . I’m hungry . After my rip. The sand stayed out of my mouth .

 

[76sanger]

I've said it before on these boards, you can always tell a democrat/libtard controlled state. Control,control,control the people by making more, more and more laws. By putting up more,more and more signs telling you what you cant do.

 

[stonehenge]

If people knew the true reason why we have helmet laws they would be amazed, it has very little to do with safety to the rider, its origins stem from "severely injured, terminal, living long enough to have viable organs to be harvested" Your organs can't be harvested if your splattered all over the asphalt, they could give a rats ass if you die, they just need those organs, the rest of you can go in the garbage with your hog. ...or rice rocket jap bike, makes no difference to them.

And you do not need to wear a helmet on a motorcycle off-road in Glamis. Most riders do, but the law does not require it.
38505cvc applies to ATV's.
Many web sites places motorcycles on there "rules" page, it is in error. The FED's enforce whatever state law is in place, and yes, on hwy helmets are required, but in the sand they are not. Used to be a guy, 2 wheeler, pegs and a nice snapper on his backseat, he would ride all over, BLM would go nutts, riding double, no problem, no helmet, no problem. Yea he got pulled over and was sober as a church mouse, and had laminated, large print copies of all applicable laws pertaining to this subject.

Smart? that's whatever you perceive it to be.

I was feeling rather gut'sie, jumped on a friends "fat-cat" no helmet, my kid on the back, cruised around camp, yep... I got rolled, told the nice young chap he was mistaken and cited all the codes, he went back to his car, called a supervisor, who showed up rather quickly, they had a pow-wow,

Read me the riot act, told me how unsafe it was to be riding around camp with no helmet and my kid on the back, (she was 20) told me "it should be a law" but technically I was correct. Let me go. I was painfully sober.

Evidently the AMA had some play in this law, and specifically and purposely left two-wheelers off the atv helmet law, no idea why.

Again, most wear a helmet on a two wheeler, for good reason. But it is not required by law, in Glamis, off-road, on an adult, and if your bike has pegs and an adequate seat length to accommodate a passenger it is also legal. (regardless of motor displacement) Tested this fact on old honda 50 69' monkey bike, true story. lol


Now back to our regularly scheduled program on all the gayzer pro r hate.

 

[FasterBae]

Back in the 90’s to 2010ish we never wore helmets in our rails/UTV’s. What‘s the fine if you get caught operating a sidexside without a helmet? Wouldn’t the law not not be applied to pro r, speed and maverick R?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Back in the 90’s to 2010ish we never wore helmets in our rails/UTV’s. What‘s the fine if you get caught operating a sidexside without a helmet? Wouldn’t the law not not be applied to pro r, speed and maverick R?

The law is now applied to all UTVs. It used to be applied to anything under 1000cc.

It will probably be applied to all sand cars too.

 

[JFMFG]

The law is now applied to all UTVs. It used to be applied to anything under 1000cc.

It will probably be applied to all sand cars too.

Helmets don’t bother me.

 

[angiebaby]

I can’t understand why anyone wouldn’t want to wear a helmet while flying along in the desert/dunes. The human skull can only take a certain amount of contact before things go bad.

What about if you hop in your buggy to go to the next campsite that's 1/2 mile away?

I agree with flying through the desert. Having been in an accident before in a 4400 car out in JV, I am grateful I had my helmet on. The driver swears he strapped his on correctly, but it flew through the front off of his head, and then his head flew back and hit the post behind the seat. Knocked him unconscious. Accidents happen. I've witnessed too many rollovers and endovers out there by people just going for a spin.

That being said . . . I don't think we need a nanny state to take care of us. Let Darwinism take a few of the dummies out. People should have the right to act stupid if it doesn't hurt anyone else.

Just my .02

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Helmets don’t bother me.

So you put one on when loading and unloading your machine?

Does the government removing your right to chose to wear one or not bother you?

 

[angiebaby]

I am as against gov regulation as anyone. However, . . .

Apparently not.

 

[HB2Havasu]

Reading this proposed regulation, I would have to wear a helmet in a Jeep as it was designed for off highway use.

I'm really getting sick of politicians telling us how to live!!!

 

[Bpracing1127]

Reading this proposed regulation, I would have to wear a helmet in a Jeep as it was designed for off highway use.

I'm really getting sick of politicians telling us how to live!!!

Since when is a jeep designed for offroad use

 

[TCHB]

I can’t understand why anyone wouldn’t want to wear a helmet while flying along in the desert/dunes. The human skull can only take a certain amount of contact before things go bad.

I would never ride without a helmet. I raced moto cross in my younger days and can not imagine sitting at the starting line with no helmet.

 

[C-Ya]

I’ll ad some humor to this thread……..

Do you guys know what SLAPAHO stands for?

”Support Life And Put A Helmet On”

lol

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Reading this proposed regulation, I would have to wear a helmet in a Jeep as it was designed for off highway use.

I'm really getting sick of politicians telling us how to live!!!

I think youd be OK as your Jeep would be road registered.

 

[76sanger]

So why dont "WE THE PEOPLE" actually try to do something about this? How about calling or writing the people in charge of writing this bill and saying NO!
I'm sure your either on facebook, Instagram or some other social mast media sites, go and spread the news to call or write and say NO helmet law!!! It doesn't matter what state your in, we all need to come together NOW as one people!