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I watched an Excellent film documented History of the attack last evening on Newsmax. Poor young Men sleeping on a Sunday Morning and so much Life ahead of them only to Die in an unprovoked attack. They interviewed several living survivors and was so sad and difficult to see the pain in their heart still to this day. I was suprised how many of these Men have decided to have their Ashes returned by a National Park "Diver" to the "Arizona" to be At Rest with all of those who dies so many years earlier. 😞
 

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I watched an Excellent film documented History of the attack last evening on Newsmax. Poor young Men sleeping on a Sunday Morning and so much Life ahead of them only to Die in an unprovoked attack. They interviewed several living survivors and was so sad and difficult to see the pain in their heart still to this day. I was suprised how many of these Men have decided to have their Ashes returned by a National Park "Diver" to the "Arizona" to be At Rest with all of those who dies so many years earlier. 😞

Great documentary that I've seen before! Make no mistake though, the attack on US military bases in Hawaii on December 7, 1941 was very much provoked by crippling economic sanctions and raw material embargoes placed against Japan by the US. They just didn't have the effect that we were hoping for. In fact, this date in history giving proof to the exact opposite. Some of the stories my Grandmother tells about growing up in Korea during this war and the conflicts that followed are horrifying.
 

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Great documentary that I've seen before! Make no mistake though, the attack on US military bases in Hawaii on December 7, 1941 was very much provoked by crippling economic sanctions and raw material embargoes placed against Japan by the US. They just didn't have the effect that we were hoping for. In fact, this date in history giving proof to the exact opposite. Some of the stories my Grandmother tells about growing up in Korea during this war and the conflicts that followed are horrifying.


BUT!!

Make No Mistake there are Thousands of Young Americans down in their Water Grave because of No Fault of their own and Not knowing we were in a "WAR"

Matter of fact most were Sleeping.

:rolleyes:
 

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BUT!!

Make No Mistake there are Thousands of Young Americans down in their Water Grave because of No Fault of their own and Not knowing we were in a "WAR"

Matter of fact most were Sleeping.

:rolleyes:

They were also voluntary members of the military during a period of high tension with Japan. War being declared or not. I am not knocking the dead or the gravity of the sacrifice that they all made but it is important that history not be distorted.
 

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Wow the media forgot, havent heard a thing this morning.
Weird deal. My Instagram feed is usually packed every holiday. The only Pearl Harbor post I’ve seen is the NRA. Watching Fox News for the last 45 mins and i haven’t heard a thing.
 

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They were also voluntary members of the military during a period of high tension with Japan. War being declared or not. I am not knocking the dead or the gravity of the sacrifice that they all made but it is important that history not be distorted.


Voluntary = Makes a difference?
High Tension = Makes a difference?
War not declared = Makes a difference?

Sucker Punch = Makes a difference.

My Father was there two weeks prior. = Thank God!! He did make a difference.
 

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Heres an amazing video from Pearl Harbor in the spring of 1942. Great for people watching at the 11:30 mark! Notice how nobody is FAT

FUN FACT: my great uncle and his wife were in Pearl Harbor during the attack. Our family has a 3 page letter dated Dec 8th of their description of what happened. Pure gold in my opinion.

 

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Heres an amazing video from Pearl Harbor in the spring of 1942. Great for people watching at the 11:30 mark! Notice how nobody is FAT

FUN FACT: my great uncle and his wife were in Pearl Harbor during the attack. Our family has a 3 page letter dated Dec 8th of their description of what happened. Pure gold in my opinion.


I'd really love to read a copy of that letter if you were able to get your hands on it
 

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They were also voluntary members of the military during a period of high tension with Japan. War being declared or not. I am not knocking the dead or the gravity of the sacrifice that they all made but it is important that history not be distorted.
They are all heroes. All of them. Great Americans
 

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I watched an Excellent film documented History of the attack last evening on Newsmax. Poor young Men sleeping on a Sunday Morning and so much Life ahead of them only to Die in an unprovoked attack. They interviewed several living survivors and was so sad and difficult to see the pain in their heart still to this day. I was suprised how many of these Men have decided to have their Ashes returned by a National Park "Diver" to the "Arizona" to be At Rest with all of those who dies so many years earlier. 😞
What was the name of the documentary?
 

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Weird deal. My Instagram feed is usually packed every holiday. The only Pearl Harbor post I’ve seen is the NRA. Watching Fox News for the last 45 mins and i haven’t heard a thing.


Evil, USA!!

We are what's Wrong in the World. EXCEPT when the Check Book is on the Table.

Fools we are!
 

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I'm gonna go put up my flag. My father was a Captain in the Army for WWII. Served all over. Okinawa, Germany. Phillipines. He didn't talk much about it. Only a few funny stories. He would have been 100 years old this year. There's not too many of the Greatest Generation left...
 

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I'm gonna go put up my flag. My father was a Captain in the Army for WWII. Served all over. Okinawa, Germany. Phillipines. He didn't talk much about it. Only a few funny stories. He would have been 100 years old this year. There's not too many of the Greatest Generation left...
Where in Germany? My Dad was in the Army in Baumholder , Germany (sp?). He was in the 26th Infantry Blue Spaders
 

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I have his deployment paperwork, I'll pull it out and take a look.
 

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I'm gonna go put up my flag. My father was a Captain in the Army for WWII. Served all over. Okinawa, Germany. Phillipines. He didn't talk much about it. Only a few funny stories. He would have been 100 years old this year. There's not too many of the Greatest Generation left...


Bless his Memory, and Merry Christmas to you and your Family!!
 

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A sad day in history...I've been lucky enough to meet both survivors, and witnesses to the attack. There is still a passion, or fire, fueled by what happened there, and it was still in their eyes. Decades may pass, and the media forgets, but history is history.

Never forget those lost in that attack, nor those lost fighting the ensuing war...as a people we should be proud. Those that aren't, can pretty much kiss my ass.
 

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It's obviously a planned blackout, it's nowhere. Can't promote patriotism, that's Trumps side.:mad:

They don’t want us to remember the liberal view of America's role in the world, FDR hoping for socialism and globalization while ignoring that the world was being captured by the Japanese and Germans.

“Oh they are on our soil now, guess we will enter the war.”

Nothing changed we gave Osama Bin Laden a second chance at the towers.
 
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I'm gonna go put up my flag. My father was a Captain in the Army for WWII. Served all over. Okinawa, Germany. Phillipines. He didn't talk much about it. Only a few funny stories. He would have been 100 years old this year. There's not too many of the Greatest Generation left...
My grandfathers were the same. They never said a word about their service in WW2. One was on the Nevada in Pearl Harbor. The other served tours across Europe. Multiple Purple Hearts, silver stars and gun shot scars all over. Great men and role models.
 

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not written for Pearl Harbor, but written in 2017. i think it applies though. buddy of mine who has deployed 3x and is now a LEO sent me this a while ago.

In a country that most would struggle to find on a map, in a compound that few possess the courage to enter, men from my previous life took the fight to our enemy.

In that compound, they found men that pray five times a day for your destruction. Those men don’t know me, they don’t know you, and they don’t know America. They don’t understand our compassion, our freedoms, and our tolerance. I know it may seem as if those things are currently missing, but they remain, and I know they will return. Our capacity for them is boundless, and is only dwarfed by their hatred for you. They don’t care about your religious beliefs; they don’t care about your political opinions. They don’t care if you sit on the left or the right, liberal or conservative, pacifist or a warrior. They don’t care how much you believe in diversity, equality, or freedom of speech.

I’m sorry that you have never smelled the breath of a man who wants to kill you. I am sorry that you have never felt the alarm bells ringing in your body, the combination of fear and adrenaline, as you move towards the fight, instead of running from it. I am sorry you have never heard someone cry out for help, or cried out for help yourself, relying on the courage of others to bring you home. I am sorry you have never tasted the salt from your own tears, as you stand at flag draped coffins, burying men you were humbled to call your friends. I don’t wish those experiences on you, but I wish you had them. It would change the way you act, it would change the way you value, it would change the way you appreciate. You become quick to open your eyes, and slow to open your mouth.

Most will never understand the sacrifice required to keep men from that compound away from our doorstep, but it would not hurt you to try. It would not hurt you to take a moment to respect the sacrifices that others make on your behalf, whether they share your opinions or not. It would not hurt you to take a moment to think of the relentless drain on family, friends, and loved ones that are left behind. Ideas are not protected by words. Paper may outline the foundation and principles of this nation, but it is blood that protects it.

In that compound, a man you have never met gave everything he had, so that YOU, have the freedom to think, speak, and act however you choose. He went there for all of us, whether you loved him, or hated what he stood for. He went there to preserve the opportunity and privilege to believe, to be, and to become what we want. This country, every single person living inside of its borders and under the banner of its flag, owe that man. We owe that man everything. We owe him the respect that his sacrifice deserves.

Saying thank you is not enough.

We send our best, and lose them, in the fight against the worst this world has to offer. If you want to respect and honor their sacrifice, it needs to be more than words. You have to live it.

Take a minute and look around. Soak it in, all of it. The good, the bad, and the ugly. You have the choice, every day, as to which category you want to be in, and which direction you want to move. You have that choice, because the best among us, the best we have ever had to offer, fought, bled, and died for it.

Don’t ever forget it.
 

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This photo was taken from the observation deck of the USS Arizona in 2004 by my daughter as the guide stated the the oil droplets that float to the surface are considered the tears of the soldiers that perished on the ship that day.

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Amazingly I had a member of both sides of my family at Pearl. My grandpa on mom's side was half way through a 30 year Navy career and was on the SS Pruitt which was in dry dock for maintenance. He retired in '57 a full Commander. At the time of Pearl he was a diver and his job after the attack was to retrieve bodies, if that wasn't possible in the first 3 days then he took a hand for identification, after the 3rd day he had to remove their heads.

My dad had a cousin who who's still on the Arizona. We visited the memorial almost as soon as it was completed in the 60's.
 

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Gentlemen and Ladies in here, this may be a Bit off track to some, but in the "Big Picture" Freedom and all that does go with it = A Fair and Honest Election (?) is why these Young Men gave the most important thing, actually it is Everything. I am watching this Slip away people, I have thought for quite some time it was happening a bit at a time, but now it is so Blatant and Obvious of no intent to hide and your Children and for sure Grandchildren will have No Idea what we are talking about. That is if we are allowed to talk to them about it or anything🤫 Think it could never happen? think of Nazi Germany, hiding Children in Attics. Damn!! California, laid the Hammer down this morning.

I have always had "The Arizona" on my Bucket List, but I do not believe I could handle the Oil seeping up and the Thoughts and Images in my mind of what happened then and what is happening now and ( Fill In The Blank) of your thoughts and feelings while you look at your Children,Wife and Family.
I do Not know what is being taught in Schools, but I do know it is Not History, Love of Country, The Flag and Respect for those gave us the Opportunity to do it.

Merry Christmas!!

Good by 2020.
 

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My parents had a friend who was there that morning. Not a sailor on one of our ships. She was a female Naval Officer/RN stationed at Pearl Harbor. I can't imagine what her experiences must have been that day. In later years I knew her and her husband well. Amazing lady. My Thanks to her for her service.

When in Pearl we were always given a berth directly across from the Arizona. Yes, those tiny globlets of oil were still rising to the surface. They do get your attention.
 

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This photo was taken from the observation deck of the USS Arizona in 2004 by my daughter as the guide stated the the oil droplets that float to the surface are considered the tears of the soldiers that perished on the ship that day.

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Still going today in 2020!!!

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My Father-in-law worked at the LB Shipyard as a planner for 25 years. They would have family day every couple of years and in the mid 90's the USS Missouri was in dry dock being decommissioned. we got to go on board the ship and my 10 year old daughter got to sit in the captains chair, I have a picture of her somewhere I'll have to dig up someday. They were also replacing sections of the teak decking and had cut small (about 3-4"long) pieces of the deck being removed and had branded them with "USS MISSOURI". I still have about 5 or 6 pieces of that decking stashed away somewhere.

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Heres an amazing video from Pearl Harbor in the spring of 1942. Great for people watching at the 11:30 mark! Notice how nobody is FAT

FUN FACT: my great uncle and his wife were in Pearl Harbor during the attack. Our family has a 3 page letter dated Dec 8th of their description of what happened. Pure gold in my opinion.


It's time for another rrrr history lesson.

Starting at 3:30 in the video you can see the USS West Virginia as it is being towed across Pearl Harbor from the site of its sinking to Drydock One. Once in drydock, the large concrete filled wood timber patches that were placed to cover the six torpedo hits the ship suffered will be removed, and the holes covered with temporary steel plating.

West Virginia was powered by turbo-electric drive, in which steam generated by the boilers turned large generators, which in turn powered huge electric motors that drove each propeller. The generators and motors required significant overhaul before the ship could make way, and the work at Pearl Harbor continued until April 1943, when it departed for the Puget Sound Navy Yard in Washington for permanent repairs.

If you look closely at the video, you can see that even while divers and salvage crews worked the six months it took to refloat the ship, repairs to the superstructure and Turrets Three and Four were already in progress. You can see the red lead primer on the cleaned and repaired areas, which were charred from the fires that engulfed the main deck after bomb hits.

The damage to West Virginia was so extensive it didn't return to the Pacific war until July 1944.

This is a photo of the ship in drydock at Pearl Harbor. You can see the huge wood patches on the portside hull. Once the patches were in place, concrete was poured between the wood and the hull to make it watertight, then large pumps were used to remove water and refloat the ship. Some 600 tons of concrete were used, and it all had to be broken away before the hull plating could be repaired.

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Another photo, this one shows the incredible damage from the 24” diameter Japanese Long Lance torpedo hits. The patches in this area have been pulled away, and crews are using jackhammers to remove the concrete. Hull patches further amidships are still in place.

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I didn't forget but I did forget to put up my flag. I'll do it now.

My Uncle Tony was a Pearl Harbor survivor. God bless him and all those who have fought for our country.

I can only imagine what America's greatest generation would be saying about what's going on in America now.
 

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My grandfathers brother was on his was from his ship to meet his buddy on the Arizona to go to church when the attack happened. He hauled ass back to his ship and lost his buddy on the Az.
 

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In my career I was very lucky to see 2 battleships at sea and underway. Probably the most beautiful ships I've ever seen, the New Jersey and the Missouri. I saw the New Jersey west of San Clemente Island when they were training and getting ready to deploy to Vietnam. We first saw her steaming to the south with San Clemente Island beyond and to the east of her and the sun just rising over the island. Truly an amazing sight. Wish I had a photo of that. Saw the Missouri enter San Diego under full colors with her crew dressed in whites, standing at attention around the entire perimeter of the ship. The hull shape of a battleship is like no other. The way their huge mass glides through the water is a wonder of US Naval Architecture.
 

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In my career I was very lucky to see 2 battleships at sea and underway. Probably the most beautiful ships I've ever seen, the New Jersey and the Missouri. I saw the New Jersey west of San Clemente Island when they were training and getting ready to deploy to Vietnam. We first saw her steaming to the south with San Clemente Island beyond and to the east of her and the sun just rising over the island. Truly an amazing sight. Wish I had a photo of that. Saw the Missouri enter San Diego under full colors with her crew dressed in whites, standing at attention around the entire perimeter of the ship. The hull shape of a battleship is like no other. The way their huge mass glides through the water is a wonder of US Naval Architecture.


I wish you would have taken pictures also. When I have seen pictures of the Ships coming into Port with the Sailors in their Whites, standing at Attention is about as Good as it gets. Sends Chills just looking at it. I can't imagine how Impressive it would Look in person. 👍
 

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I wish you would have taken pictures also. When I have seen pictures of the Ships coming into Port with the Sailors in their Whites, standing at Attention is about as Good as it gets. Sends Chills just looking at it. I can't imagine how Impressive it would Look in person. 👍
The Missouri was Beautiful and amazing, entering San Diego Bay in the late afternoon. That was back in the 80s. We were able to circle in our boat and view the entire vessel while it was slowly underway. She had escort tugs. But every line on her was dipped and slacked. She was doing it all on her own.
 
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In my career I was very lucky to see 2 battleships at sea and underway. Probably the most beautiful ships I've ever seen, the New Jersey and the Missouri. I saw the New Jersey west of San Clemente Island when they were training and getting ready to deploy to Vietnam. We first saw her steaming to the south with San Clemente Island beyond and to the east of her and the sun just rising over the island. Truly an amazing sight. Wish I had a photo of that. Saw the Missouri enter San Diego under full colors with her crew dressed in whites, standing at attention around the entire perimeter of the ship. The hull shape of a battleship is like no other. The way their huge mass glides through the water is a wonder of US Naval Architecture.

I think it was in 87 we sailed from SDS1 to Pearl with Jersey. Also witnessed the 16" guns firing on to San Clemente Island.
 

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Saw the Missouri enter San Diego under full colors with her crew dressed in whites, standing at attention around the entire perimeter of the ship. The hull shape of a battleship is like no other. The way their huge mass glides through the water is a wonder of US Naval Architecture.

There's nothing that stirs the heart better than seeing a US Navy ship with the crew in dress whites manning the rail.
 

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I think it was in 87 we sailed from SDS1 to Pearl with Jersey. Also witnessed the 16" guns firing on to San Clemente Island.
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I was on an 85’ boat the day we say the New Jersey out by SCI. Range control had moved us many miles away prior to the NJ firing their 16s on to the island. But, when they did it rattled the hell out of us. VERY impressive.
 

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Back in 1942 the Queen Mary was pressed into service as a troop and cargo carrier. My father was one of the 10,000 men it carried to England. Hitler offered a $250,000 bonus to any U-boat captain that could sink it.
 
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