New Interceptor 36

[attitude]

Love seeing new hulls being built.

 

[Singleton]

Similar concept to that sosa 36 that was being tooled, but never built

 

[evantwheeler]

Beautiful!

 

[pkrrvr619]

How does one tool up a boat? Splash another hull with some minor tweaks?

Hire naval architect and start from scratch?

Computer assist and hope it works?

I’m fascinated by the process.

 

[NicPaus]

Similar concept to that sosa 36 that was being tooled, but never built

It's the same. Old news.

 

[PlanB]

Low 400's is very cheap compared to other manufacturers.

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

It's the same. Old news.

I spotted a Instagram post from Sosa recently. They were looking to hire people.... didn't you have a contact that was getting 2 Sosa boats being built?

 

[Good Stuff]

I thought Sosa had said something about working with Interceptor. Could be the same boat.

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

I thought Sosa had said something about working with Interceptor. Could be the same boat.

Dont recall that.... they're very much a mystery builder it seems.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

How does one tool up a boat? Splash another hull with some minor tweaks?

Hire naval architect and start from scratch?

Computer assist and hope it works?

I’m fascinated by the process.

A lot of the time they splash the bottom of a good performing boat and then completely design a new deck to go on it. They might tweak the hull to get it to mate up to the new deck (add bustle or modify the mating line).

Then build new molds on the basis of that.

The old school way from scratch was design and shape a plug, like one would a surfboard, and then make molds off of that.

Now it’s all CAD and the mold is made from exacting CAD design so you don’t wind up with weird quirks that molds from a plug might have because they are imperfect to start with.

 

[02HoWaRd26]

Seems even a 3D printer could be used then braces etc. would seem huge but I’ve seen some cool shit like IMCO using them to design a new lower, way different scale but still.

 

[RiverDave]

This boat was designed and tooled by the same company that designed the DCB m37.

 

[ultra26shadow]

Hope they pull through. A lot of companies buy these hulls or produce a new one and never make it to market. Like the F26 molds I think only 2 or 3 were made after they left DCB

 

[n2otoofast4u]

This boat was designed and tooled by the same company that designed the DCB m37.

If it’s even 10% as successful, it will be impossible to build them fast enough.

 

[ToMorrow44]

This boat was designed and tooled by the same company that designed the DCB m37.

That makes sense. It looks almost identical to an M37

 

[pkrrvr619]

This boat was designed and tooled by the same company that designed the DCB m37.

So companies can outsource design and prototype?

What guarantees are in place something would work as it should when actually built?

Again this is the side of the boat biz that is very interesting.

 

[azsunfun]

I was sitting next to baddass grey/black interceptor yesterday, nice rig.

 

[throttle]

Good for them. Plug made yet?

 

[RiverDave]

Good for them. Plug made yet?

I believe it is. First five hills are already sold. Finished boats starting in the 400’s

 

[28Eliminator]

I was sitting next to baddass grey/black interceptor yesterday, nice rig.

Apparently you didn’t look to close at the hull… ripple city. Every time I see that boat I can’t take my eyes off it

 

[JFMFG]

Apparently you didn’t look to close at the hull… ripple city. Every time I see that boat I can’t take my eyes off it

Seriously? The one finished last year?

 

[riverroyal]

Apparently you didn’t look to close at the hull… ripple city. Every time I see that boat I can’t take my eyes off it

This....I can't not see it now

 

[Done-it-again]

Nice looking sled.

But how are 5 people buying a 400k + that hasn’t been proven yet. Am I missing something?

 

[Bpracing1127]

This....I can't not see it now

Am I missing something? Was this an I person deal or are there pictures?

 

[28Eliminator]

Seriously? The one finished last year?

I have no idea when it was built. All silver on the sides with black on the back and top… fully capped. You see it, you cant
Miss it.

 

[Singleton]

Nice looking sled.

But how are 5 people buying a 400k + that hasn’t been proven yet. Am I missing something?

Occurs all the time. Most builders give a discount on the first few, to get the hulls out.
The driving factor IMO are the customers. Financing customers most likely will postpone until rates go back down.

Also, timing is everything.
Ultra (JW days) had multiple refundable deposits on the 344 when it was released. The 344 required some bottom modifications after the first hull was floating and that delayed additional boats from being built. By the time the hull was ready, it was too late. The economy was in ‘shit hit the fan’ mode and the normal Ultra customers who had deposits were not buying for a multitude of reasons.

 

[Done-it-again]

Occurs all the time. Most builders give a discount on the first few, to get the hulls out.
The driving factor IMO are the customers. Financing customers most likely will postpone until rates go back down.

Also, timing is everything.
Ultra (JW days) had multiple refundable deposits on the 344 when it was released. The 344 required some bottom modifications after the first hull was floating and that delayed additional boats from being built. By the time the hull was ready, it was too late. The economy was in ‘shit hit the fan’ mode and the normal Ultra customers who had deposits were not buying for a multitude of reasons.

Not to knock Interceptor, but they are not true tunnel cat builders. Its a product they may have some small knowledge about but to jump in the game with 5 sold I don't really see. I don't know anyone that would drop 400k minimum on something like that non tested..... I can see it happening with DCB, Eliminator, for Westcoast builders for new models...

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Not to knock Interceptor, but they are not true tunnel cat builders. Its a product they may have some small knowledge about but to jump in the game with 5 sold I don't really see. I don't know anyone that would drop 400k minimum on something like that non tested..... I can see it happening with DCB, Eliminator, for Westcoast builders for new models...

It’s sounds like DCB isn’t either if they indeed farmed out the M37 design to a 3rd party that is well versed in boat design. If they also designed the DCB boat, I’d have a high degree of confidence in the Interceptor design of a similar size and design.

Not a knock against anyone, but that is a much better way to do the tooling and proof of concepts as opposed to how all this was done by custom boat builders just 15 years ago (trial and error with customers testing the boats).

Let the people that do design and tooling make something that works for you.

 

[DWC]

Not to knock Interceptor, but they are not true tunnel cat builders. It’s a product they may have some small knowledge about but to jump in the game with 5 sold I don't really see. I don't know anyone that would drop 400k minimum on something like that non tested..... I can see it happening with DCB, Eliminator, for Westcoast builders for new models...

Agreed. There’s a reputable builder in town that tried a smaller true tunnel. Not sure they ever got it figured out. There seems to be a lot of art in the science of boat building, especially in OB cats where the weight is pushed so far back.

 

[JFMFG]

Agreed. There’s a reputable builder in town that tried a smaller true tunnel. Not sure they ever got it figured out. There seems to be a lot of art in the science of boat building, especially in OB cats where the weight is pushed so far back.

Are we talking about the Nordic 35 and 31ss?

 

[DWC]

Are we talking about the Nordic 35 and 31ss?

31’. I’ve been on the 35’ quite a few times. Nothing wrong with that hull IMO.

 

[Singleton]

Are we talking about the Nordic 35 and 31ss?

Maybe

 

[MK1MOD0]

Not to knock Interceptor, but they are not true tunnel cat builders. Its a product they may have some small knowledge about but to jump in the game with 5 sold I don't really see. I don't know anyone that would drop 400k minimum on something like that non tested..... I can see it happening with DCB, Eliminator, for Westcoast builders for new models...

Dave said the company the designed and tooled the DCB 37 did this one as well. So I don’t understand where your concerns are coming from. DCB wasn’t a true cat builder up to this point, and their 37 seems to work very well. So , why would this be any different ?

 

[Done-it-again]

Dave said the company the designed and tooled the DCB 37 did this one as well. So I don’t understand where your concerns are coming from. DCB wasn’t a true cat builder up to this point, and their 37 seems to work very well. So , why would this be any different ?

So I can have the same company who built the plug for DCB make me one, and you will be inline with 400K.? Sign me up.

DCB and others alike have a history with fast boats and know a thing or too and sometimes still get it wrong. Not saying that interceptor cant, I just don't see how you can sell 5 prior to building the first one and marketing it.... Howard did on the 255 vtx, as you watched the plug they built driving around proving the concept. This is not a 60-70 mph boat, things can go way wrong hitting the speeds a true cat can achieve. Built it, prove it and then I can see 5 being sold....

 

[Done-it-again]

It’s sounds like DCB isn’t either if they indeed farmed out the M37 design to a 3rd party that is well versed in boat design. If they also designed the DCB boat, I’d have a high degree of confidence in the Interceptor design of a similar size and design.

Not a knock against anyone, but that is a much better way to do the tooling and proof of concepts as opposed to how all this was done by custom boat builders just 15 years ago (trial and error with customers testing the boats).

Let the people that do design and tooling make something that works for you.

Are you speculating that DCB didn't have any input and said to mr boat designer "make me a 37 true cat mold" ? I personally don't think so.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Are you speculating that DCB didn't have any input and said to mr boat designer "make me a 37 true cat mold" ? I personally don't think so.

No one said or speculated that.

None of us know how much or how little was done by a 3rd party design/tooling partner.

For the price difference.. I don’t think the Interceptor owners will care.

 

[Done-it-again]

No one said or speculated that.

None of us know how much or how little was done by a 3rd party design/tooling partner.

For the price difference.. I don’t think the Interceptor owners will care.

"it’s sounds like DCB isn’t either if they indeed farmed out the M37 design to a 3rd party that is well versed in boat design"

You implied with the quote above. You are right, no one knows how much involvement.

I guess some people view their existence on price. Not me...

 

[MK1MOD0]

So I can have the same company who built the plug for DCB make me one, and you will be inline with 400K.? Sign me up.

DCB and others alike have a history with fast boats and know a thing or too and sometimes still get it wrong. Not saying that interceptor cant, I just don't see how you can sell 5 prior to building the first one and marketing it.... Howard did on the 255 vtx, as you watched the plug they built driving around proving the concept. This is not a 60-70 mph boat, things can go way wrong hitting the speeds a true cat can achieve. Built it, prove it and then I can see 5 being sold....

Are you a boat builder? Honestly, I do not know. I don’t know you personally. But if you are an established builder, and you were building a 36 cat, that was designed by the same company that did the m37, I think 400k would be a very fair price. Since it is about half what a DCB is, seems a bargain.

 

[JFMFG]

Are you a boat builder? Honestly, I do not know. I don’t know you personally. But if you are an established builder, and you were building a 36 cat, that was designed by the same company that did the m37, I think 400k would be a very fair price. Since it is about half what a DCB is, seems a bargain.

When DCB first launched the 37 line I believe they were low 500s since then prices have jumped along with everything else. They proved the hull works now everyone wants it.

 

[Done-it-again]

Are you a boat builder? Honestly, I do not know. I don’t know you personally. But if you are an established builder, and you were building a 36 cat, that was designed by the same company that did the m37, I think 400k would be a very fair price. Since it is about half what a DCB is, seems a bargain.

Nope, not a builder.... I guess Bayliner should start building hi speed cats based on your reply and people would be linging up..

Again, not throwing shade at the builder, I just don't see how you can sell 5 400k boats without one proving you can build/rig a boat of this caliber.

 

[MK1MOD0]

Nope, not a builder.... I guess Bayliner should start building hi speed cats based on your reply and people would be linging up..

Again, not throwing shade at the builder, I just don't see how you can sell 5 400k boats without one proving you can build/rig a boat of this caliber.

I’m just having a conversation. not sure why you are getting upset. never once did I mention bay liner. I’m simply stating, that if an established custom builder is coming out with a boat that was designed by an established designer, and have a good track record so far...... then I’m sure they will have buyers. Not sure why that seems to bother you. I believe they will sell every one they can build. Especially at that price.

 

[Done-it-again]

I’m just having a conversation. not sure why you are getting upset. never once did I mention bay liner. I’m simply stating, that if an established custom builder is coming out with a boat that was designed by an established designer, and have a good track record so far...... then I’m sure they will have buyers. Not sure why that seems to bother you. I believe they will sell every one they can build. Especially at that price.

Not upset.... You questioned my post so I'm responding to your question, hence "conversation". The Bayliner quote was in response to an established builder, they have been around a long time.

I don't doubt they can have buyers, especially if proven and that would be fantastic. I find it hard to believe that 5 are sold prior with just a rendering with no cat building experience.

Maybe "sold" in the boat industry is different, to me its money down and contract signed. That would be hard for ME to do with the first time building a boat of this caliber.

 

[ChrisV]

Not upset.... You questioned my post so I'm responding to your question, hence "conversation". The Bayliner quote was in response to an established builder, they have been around a long time.

I don't doubt they can have buyers, especially if proven and that would be fantastic. I find it hard to believe that 5 are sold prior with just a rendering with no cat building experience.

Maybe "sold" in the boat industry is different, to me its money down and contract signed. That would be hard for ME to do with the first time building a boat of this caliber.

Probably investors

 

[ToMorrow44]

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Apparently you didn’t look too close at the hull… ripple city. Every time I see that boat I can’t take my eyes off it

I’ve heard several people say that recently which is surprising. I have a friend that has had 2 of their 28 decks and I remember being especially impressed with how straight the hull sides are (hard to do on something that long and flat). But I believe his were both built in CA before new management and the move to Havasu, so that may explain it.

 

[Cole Trickle]

I’m just having a conversation. not sure why you are getting upset. never once did I mention bay liner. I’m simply stating, that if an established custom builder is coming out with a boat that was designed by an established designer, and have a good track record so far...... then I’m sure they will have buyers. Not sure why that seems to bother you. I believe they will sell every one they can build. Especially at that price.

I think the science has come a long way and with the addition of the robotic carvers for plugs a new design isnt as scary as it once was.

My concern would absolutely be the solvency of the company building the boat. 40% discount doesent mean much when we are talking these numbers in this market. 500k is a huge number for even a strong company to absorb for a long build without some strong financial backing.

There are very few companies i would trust financially right now and i only say that as they have been around for a long time or seem to be very financially savvy. (Nordic,DCB , eliminator are the only 3 that really jump out at me.... Howard before the owner passed would be another)

 

[28Eliminator]

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I’ve heard several people say that recently which is surprising. I have a friend that has had 2 of their 28 decks and I remember being especially impressed with how straight the hull sides are (hard to do on something that long and flat). But I believe his were both built in CA before new management and the move to Havasu, so that may explain it. View attachment 1233364 View attachment 1233365 View attachment 1233366

Yes, that boat is MUCH straighter. Very nice

 

[BBYSTWY]

What is really striking to me about this thread is the design of the boats being farmed out...I'm sure they all had input but that would be like GM farming out truck design to Ford and then Ram tweaking that design for their own...maybe I'm naive in thinking this is so insane but to me a company building a product should design that product from the ground up....I mean this is a "custom boat build" so are you buying a truly "custom" interceptor or a tweaked and cheapened up DCB???

Sorry this is just mind boggling to me lol

Carry on...

 

[Singleton]

What is really striking to me about this thread is the design of the boats being farmed out...I'm sure they all had input but that would be like GM farming out truck design to Ford and then Ram tweaking that design for their own...maybe I'm naive in thinking this is so insane but to me a company building a product should design that product from the ground up....I mean this is a "custom boat build" so are you buying a truly "custom" interceptor or a tweaked and cheapened up DCB???

Sorry this is just mind boggling to me lol

Carry on...

most designers will tweak the deck to align with the vision of the manufacturer. The hull will have mods as well (placement of pads, etc.). Rob King used to design (hand draw) almost all new west coast manufacturers initial designs. He would modify the deck to align with that manufacturer’s style.

one thing to keep in mind.
once you have the hull, you need to execute on the rigging and setup.
That is what sets manufacturers apart. knowing where to cut the holes, where the mounts go it knowledge and that is usually not shared

 

[attitude]

What is really striking to me about this thread is the design of the boats being farmed out...I'm sure they all had input but that would be like GM farming out truck design to Ford and then Ram tweaking that design for their own...maybe I'm naive in thinking this is so insane but to me a company building a product should design that product from the ground up....I mean this is a "custom boat build" so are you buying a truly "custom" interceptor or a tweaked and cheapened up DCB???

Sorry this is just mind boggling to me lol

Carry on...

What they are doing now is just Splashing without the extra steps lol.

 

[BBYSTWY]

I guess it is economically a good choice for the builders yet the prices keep going up and up hahahaha

Just the way of the world I guess...just assumed every builder would design a totally new boat and not essentially copy an existing boat with different tweaks but then again I will probably never be in the new boat market in my lifetime so I guess the point is mood lol