New Can Am

[Timmmmmy]

They are setting up south of Havasu.

 

[Havasu blue label]

Thanks For the info

 

[82daytona]

Setting up for what?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Awesome.

Who is going to be first to point out the booger welds?

 

[rrrr]

I'm surprised by the poor quality of the welds on the frame and suspension.

 

[BingerFang]

Awesome.

Who is going to be first to point out the booger welds?

RG’s mob.

 

[RiverDave]

They are setting up south of Havasu. View attachment 1273728 View attachment 1273729 View attachment 1273731 View attachment 1273732 View attachment 1273733 View attachment 1273734

I saw a semi loaded with these things heading south towards havasu this am.. was wondering what they were doing

 

[Timmmmmy]

Setting up for what?

Some private ride later in the week. They will let you look at the cars. They said these are the cars that everyone been posting of taking rides in. They seem to be holding up pretty good considering people beating them up.

 

[82daytona]

Some private ride later in the week. They will let you look at the cars. They said these are the cars that everyone been posting of taking rides in. They seem to be holding up pretty good considering people beating them up.

thanks! They sure are ugly! But I can’t wait till mine arrives

 

[2Driver]

I’m probably behind, but what’s with the front suspension hanging over the tire?
Looks odd but the rest I think looks pretty sweet.

 

[MeCasa16]

In the past they have set up in standard wash and done demo rides. When we did it, I assumed it would be lame, but it was actually awesome and they let you tear around for about 30 minutes. Straight aways, small hill climbs, and whoops. They even allowed you to go again and choose a different model. Full performance mode too, I was impressed and we ended up buying our's after that..

 

[Gramps]

front suspension looks strange

 

[Wheeler]

front suspension looks strange

My first thought after seeing the Can-Am suspension was this.

 

[rivermobster]

I couldn't believe how well my BIL's RC version was when he first got it.

This thing with no belt, is gonna be amazing.

 

[River Dirt 2]

Damn, that’s got a face only a mother could love….

 

[lbhsbz]

I’m probably behind, but what’s with the front suspension hanging over the tire?
Looks odd but the rest I think looks pretty sweet.

They're trying to minimize camber change over a long range of travel for better stability over the whoops (in a straight line)....hard cornering may suffer, but we're not road racing here.

 

[riverroyal]

Interesting. Are they set up all week? Anyone have info?

 

[Timmmmmy]

Interesting. Are they set up all week? Anyone have info?

The guy that was there said they were setting up for a private event later in the week

 

[riverroyal]

Thanks. Might go take a look. Bring a fake ID like I'm a dealer....

 

[JayBreww]

Awesome.

Who is going to be first to point out the booger welds?

Apparently you are.

Here’s some pics from earlier as I was heading home.
Standard Wash.

 

[Done-it-again]

Probably invited RG to test drive the lates and greatest.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Apparently you are.

Here’s some pics from earlier as I was heading home.
Standard Wash.
View attachment 1273804

No, just the irony.

 

[mjc]

Doesn't one of the SxS company's have a test building out there next to the rock plant?

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Sweet Yerf Dogs...

 

[DLC]

Apparently you are.

Here’s some pics from earlier as I was heading home.
Standard Wash.
View attachment 1273804

I saw the same thing….

wanted to turn around and show them how to rally…

 

[JayBreww]

I saw the same thing….

wanted to turn around and show them how to rally…

I had my YXZ on the trailer as I drove by… I stood no chance.

 

[MeCasa16]

The front end is growing on me. I dig it,

 

[mash on it]

The front end is growing on me. I dig it,

Form follows function.

Dan'l

 

[Flying_Lavey]

They're trying to minimize camber change over a long range of travel for better stability over the whoops (in a straight line)....hard cornering may suffer, but we're not road racing here.

Its not for Camber change. Its to eliminate wheel scrub for steering. Putting the ball joints in-line to the wheel centerline all but eliminates steering feedback through suspension hits. The only way to get the ball joints physically in-line is to move the upper joint out of the wheel (as you know, those pesky brakes and other wheel hardware can get in the way of doing so inside the wheel). This also has the added benefit of increasing the leverage the suspension components have thus reducing load on the pivots (mostly the upper and lower ball joints).

 

[82daytona]

I was told this is a dealers only demo

 

[82daytona]

 

[Badchoices03]

 

[RiverDave]

Its not for Camber change. Its to eliminate wheel scrub for steering. Putting the ball joints in-line to the wheel centerline all but eliminates steering feedback through suspension hits. The only way to get the ball joints physically in-line is to move the upper joint out of the wheel (as you know, those pesky brakes and other wheel hardware can get in the way of doing so inside the wheel). This also has the added benefit of increasing the leverage the suspension components have thus reducing load on the pivots (mostly the upper and lower ball joints).

I still say the first time a branch or rocks get tied up between that and the tire you are going to see shit go badly in a hurry..

 

[PlanB]

I still say the first time a branch or rocks get tied up between that and the tire you are going to see shit go badly in a hurry..

Justin at Shock Therapy disagrees. This car is going to hurt some feelings.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Justin at Shock Therapy disagrees. This car is going to hurt some feelings.

With aftermarket narrower wheels there is plenty of space between the uprights and the tire.

This thing should handle pretty well. On the other hand, not a ton of people drive hard enough to notice .

When these actually exist and are in customer hands maybe we will get to see how they stack up .

 

[Flying_Lavey]

I still say the first time a branch or rocks get tied up between that and the tire you are going to see shit go badly in a hurry..

With the geometry of the hydroforned portion (not the welded on machined end), with good wall thickness, I'm betting it's one of the strongest parts of the car.

Plus, I bet the shock load bombing some whoops or landing off a big jump os much higher than a stick or rock getting wedged between the tire and the arm.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

With the geometry of the hydroforned portion (not the welded on machined end), with good wall thickness, I'm betting it's one of the strongest parts of the car.

Plus, I bet the shock load bombing some whoops or landing off a big jump os much higher than a stick or rock getting wedged between the tire and the arm.

He’s saying the weak link is the sidewall of the tire in a debris scenario.

When these do break hard parts, it’s going to be expensive.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

He’s saying the weak link is the sidewall of the tire in a debris scenario.

When these do break hard parts, it’s going to be expensive.

If he is...I've never seen him say that. To the contrary, he has several times how he feels the knuckle is weak so......

 

[dirtslinger2]

Can't miss this opportunity

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

If he is...I've never seen him say that. To the contrary, he has several times how he feels the knuckle is weak so......

It appears the knuckle is fine.. it’s the lower arms that break.

If you break a knuckle, you’ll have a host of other problems.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Can't miss this opportunity

It’s best served cold isn’t it…

 

[RiverDave]

Justin at Shock Therapy disagrees. This car is going to hurt some feelings.

tell him to run a branch threw there and come back and report.

This just isn’t reality..

RD

 

[PlanB]

tell him to run a branch threw there and come back and report.

This just isn’t reality..

RD

I trust his opinion on suspension components for obvious reasons. He thinks the knuckle will actually be one of the stronger points on the car. He addresses your theory in one of his videos.

 

[RiverDave]

I trust his opinion on suspension components for obvious reasons. He thinks the knuckle will actually be one of the stronger points on the car. He addresses your theory in one of his videos.

I haven’t watched his vids..

I don’t question the strength of this thing up and down.. I do question the front and back durability on that top knuckle thing..

In my head at KOH if another car runs over the tire for traction and runs across that top knuckle.. I can’t see how it would keep from not bending forwards or backwards. The branch or rock is a little more realistic for avg joe usage which is why I use the example.

Either way I’m not some suspension expert and I haven’t even seen one in person yet so who knows..

My limited one time, never owning a SXS before off-roading experience tells me though that, that shit looks fragile and fragile don’t last in the dirt.. lol.

 

[PlanB]

I haven’t watched his vids..

I don’t question the strength of this thing up and down.. I do question the front and back durability on that top knuckle thing..

In my head at KOH if another car runs over the tire for traction and runs across that top knuckle.. I can’t see how it would keep from not bending forwards or backwards. The branch or rock is a little more realistic for avg joe usage which is why I use the example.

Either way I’m not some suspension expert and I haven’t even seen one in person yet so who knows..

My limited one time, never owning a SXS before off-roading experience tells me though that, that shit looks fragile and fragile don’t last in the dirt.. lol.

Time will tell. I know they are going to be running this new car in the next KOH. I am not a buyer for a couple of years. I just like the manufacturers pushing each other to build better cars.