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Flying_Lavey

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So there is a strong possibility that we may becoming foster parents for my nephew (Wife's sister's son) as she has some pretty substantial mental issues and truly is an unfit mother. But before doing so I'd really like to get some info on his sperm donor daddy. He's currently awaiting trial down in Lake County Jail in Riverside. I've seen his arrest record and the GIANT list of charges against him. He's been waiting trial for just over 2 years now. I would just like to find out if this is a huge case, something that is looking like it may be blown out of proportion, or what. I have his name, birthday, and inmate # if someone can help shed some light on the situation for me. I'd really appreciate it.

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Search the county website in the inmate search. He may have been to jail and bailed out. There should be a list of charges associated with his initial in processing. You can also go directly to him and see if he will sign the rights to the child over to you directly. I've seen that happen amongst some friends of mine.

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Search the county website in the inmate search. He may have been to jail and bailed out. There should be a list of charges associated with his initial in processing. You can also go directly to him and see if he will sign the rights to the child over to you directly. I've seen that happen amongst some friends of mine.

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He's still in jail. Not bailed out. From what the arrest record shows, his bail for all charges was set to 4 million. He has no legal right to the boy as his name is not on the birth certificate or anything. I don't want to find out he has some reach and some loyal friends outside of jail that will help him with stuff if you know what I mean. He told my Sister in-law to not give him to us etc, etc and manipulates her almost daily. I really don't want to find out what he is capable of or willing to do.

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Take the kid, get two big dogs and a bunchadamnguns. Fuckemifheshowsup, and givehimwhattheyarelookingfor and then digafuckinhole. People that have kids and don't give a shit about them is pretty sad.

The Wsuwrhrs are considering doing something similar ourselves and doubling up our clan.

Take the kid, get a big dog and a gun
 
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I can have one of the lawyers in the office take a look if you would like to shoot me a pm with his info. One of the LEO's on the site may be able to assist as well.
 

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I can have one of the lawyers in the office take a look if you would like to shoot me a pm with his info. One of the LEO's on the site may be able to assist as well.
PM coming your way. I don't think his situation will have any baring whatsoever on us taking him. Would just really like to know what we're gonna be getting ourselves wrapped up with.

Can't have a big dog, wife is literally dealthly allergic to dogs. I have 1 gun already, hoping to get a couple few more sooner rather than later. Lol!

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In a perfect world every house would have at least 1 for each person who can operate it correctly: :)

Long range glass 7mm to .300 cal min

Mag fed Rifle with at least two extra mags.

Shotgun of some type

Handgun of some type


PM coming your way. I don't think his situation will have any baring whatsoever on us taking him. Would just really like to know what we're gonna be getting ourselves wrapped up with.

Can't have a big dog, wife is literally dealthly allergic to dogs. I have 1 gun already, hoping to get a couple few more sooner rather than later. Lol!
 

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In a perfect world every house would have at least 1 for each person who can operate it correctly: :)

Long range glass 7mm to .300 cal min

Mag fed Rifle with at least two extra mags.

Shotgun of some type

Handgun of some type
I 100% agree with ya. If only my bank account did as well. Lol

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They don't tag someone with 4 million in bail for misdemeanors. I am confused I guess, he is sitting in Riverside county ail awaiting a trial up in Lake County, and has been in the county lock up for 2 years awaiting trial That don't sound right to me.
I commend you for your desire to help the boy but the one question I have is what relationship does he have with this guy? Is there any way the guy will, through surreptitious contact with the boy or having some turd on the outside try to contact him? and manipulate him?

Investigating him is a good idea. Get all the info you can, ask to be notified if he should be released for any reason.

If he currently has a parole or probation officer I would ask to see the PO and tell him of your plans. If the guy has no legal connection with the child then I would ask the PO to add a no contact clause to the terms of his sentencing and probation/parole down the road that puts him in violation to attempt to contact you or your family or this young man while in custody or out. Spell it out up front so that if a worst case scenario comes to pass way down the road, you have a paper trail in place from the start...
 

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This is why, you sir, are a badass.

Brian

They don't tag someone with 4 million in bail for misdemeanors. I am confused I guess, he is sitting in Riverside county ail awaiting a trial up in Lake County, and has been in the county lock up for 2 years awaiting trial That don't sound right to me.
I commend you for your desire to help the boy but the one question I have is what relationship does he have with this guy? Is there any way the guy will, through surreptitious contact with the boy or having some turd on the outside try to contact him? and manipulate him?

Investigating him is a good idea. Get all the info you can, ask to be notified if he should be released for any reason.

If he currently has a parole or probation officer I would ask to see the PO and tell him of your plans. If the guy has no legal connection with the child then I would ask the PO to add a no contact clause to the terms of his sentencing and probation/parole down the road that puts him in violation to attempt to contact you or your family or this young man while in custody or out. Spell it out up front so that if a worst case scenario comes to pass way down the road, you have a paper trail in place from the start...
 

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Get divorced take your kids and walk away from the rest as it's going to be a problem for the rest of your life ;)
 

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In a perfect world every house would have at least 1 for each person who can operate it correctly: :)

Long range glass 7mm to .300 cal min

Mag fed Rifle with at least two extra mags.

Shotgun of some type

Handgun of some type

Yup!
Winchester model 70 .300 mag w/Leupold.
Mini14 and mossberg defender.
Handguns scare me...but if I DID own a couple they’d be throwaway Glock 40’s....just sayin.
 

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They don't tag someone with 4 million in bail for misdemeanors. I am confused I guess, he is sitting in Riverside county ail awaiting a trial up in Lake County, and has been in the county lock up for 2 years awaiting trial That don't sound right to me.
I commend you for your desire to help the boy but the one question I have is what relationship does he have with this guy? Is there any way the guy will, through surreptitious contact with the boy or having some turd on the outside try to contact him? and manipulate him?

Investigating him is a good idea. Get all the info you can, ask to be notified if he should be released for any reason.

If he currently has a parole or probation officer I would ask to see the PO and tell him of your plans. If the guy has no legal connection with the child then I would ask the PO to add a no contact clause to the terms of his sentencing and probation/parole down the road that puts him in violation to attempt to contact you or your family or this young man while in custody or out. Spell it out up front so that if a worst case scenario comes to pass way down the road, you have a paper trail in place from the start...
This is exactly why I'm trying to do as much homework up front as possible so the potential possibilities are already dealt addressed.

On the booking sheet it has the address of the jail listed as Lake County Jail but it's city is listed as Riverside and the court handling the case is in Murrieta so I don't know what's going on with that part at alof the charges that are still facing him, all 10 are felonies and there are a couple that are multiple counts of them.

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Yup!
Winchester model 70 .300 mag w/Leupold.
Mini14 and mossberg defender.
Handguns scare me...but if I DID own a couple they’d be throwaway Glock 40’s....just sayin.



This POS show up at the door, you shoot, shovel, and shut up. Keep a bag of lime in a dry bucket for the occasion.
 
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and call a bury a body buddy to help get it done quicker....

I think you also misspelt Lye. ;)

Brian

This POS show up at the door, you shoot, shovel, and shut up. Keep a bag of lime in a dry bucket for the occasion.
 

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1, What does your wife think of this?
2, Are you prepared for the drama that will ensue (mentaly) ?
3, How old is the boy?
4, What are the legal rights of the parents? NO WHAT IFs! FACTS!!
5, If it pans out...are you prepared to be the father of this boy...love him and sacrifice for him as his father?
6, Seek legal council before making a decision!
7, If you are incapable of paying a attorney to help you make a VERY EDUCATED decision then you have no business taking him no matter what your wife says because inevitably the drama and legal cost that will ensue will inevitably destroy the marriage that you have now.

Put your emotion aside...be logical. I assume you are married with children...adding another from another can destroy what you have now!

BE CARFUL!
 

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This is exactly why I'm trying to do as much homework up front as possible so the potential possibilities are already dealt addressed.

On the booking sheet it has the address of the jail listed as Lake County Jail but it's city is listed as Riverside and the court handling the case is in Murrieta so I don't know what's going on with that part at alof the charges that are still facing him, all 10 are felonies and there are a couple that are multiple counts of them.

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Well that is weird.
Some form of the following may be going on... he has something cooking up in Lake County aka the Clear Lake area as well. One possibility is that Lake County has placed a hold on him, and want him back when Riverside County is done, he is a resident of the Lake County Jail and was transported down there to handle the case he has pending there. If the booking sheet shows his residence as the Lake Co. Jail I would suspect it is the latter...he is probably sentenced on the Lake County deal and doing time for them, and Riverside Co. picked him up so he is temporarily in their custody pending adjudication of the charges down south.
If he is being handled by an attorney, or even if the public defenders in both jurisdictions have talked they may be trying to get him sentenced for the Riverside stuff and run his time concurrently...which means he does time for both jurisdictions at the same time. Riverside will like this because he will be doing time for them, but in the Lake Co. facility, so no $ on their part.
However with the 4 million bail he is almost certainly looking at state time, and if Riverside sentences him to time in the joint he will go forthwith from Riverside to the state, and then his attorney in Lake Co. will have to try to get the Lake County DA to go along with him doing time to run concurrent. He may be playing to go to the joint and do time for everyone there. You can only do one year in a county jail as a sentence for a singular case, any more than that you go to the joint. I have seen judges pissed off enough to hang a 1 year sentence on a guy, then hang another 6 months or so on another charge, and shove it in all the way, making them do the time consecutively...one sentence after the other..finish your year get re booked for the second tour...not fun...
If you find anything else out please share it. Now ya got me interested...

I wish I could be more specific for you but there is just enough info here to state that both jurisdictions seem to have their hooks in him, the above are simply ways it could shake out. Sorry.

One last thought...pure speculation...both Riverside and Lake County have in the past had some serious methamphetamine problems...he may be a trafficker...might be why the bail is so high.
 

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1, What does your wife think of this?
2, Are you prepared for the drama that will ensue (mentaly) ?
3, How old is the boy?
4, What are the legal rights of the parents? NO WHAT IFs! FACTS!!
5, If it pans out...are you prepared to be the father of this boy...love him and sacrifice for him as his father?
6, Seek legal council before making a decision!
7, If you are incapable of paying a attorney to help you make a VERY EDUCATED decision then you have no business taking him no matter what your wife says because inevitably the drama and legal cost that will ensue will inevitably destroy the marriage that you have now.

Put your emotion aside...be logical. I assume you are married with children...adding another from another can destroy what you have now!

BE CARFUL!
I appreciate it. This didn't just happen out of the blue. It's been discussed off and on for the past few months. If this happens, it's going to happen via one of the state agencies.

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Well that is weird.
Some form of the following may be going on... he has something cooking up in Lake County aka the Clear Lake area as well. One possibility is that Lake County has placed a hold on him, and want him back when Riverside County is done, he is a resident of the Lake County Jail and was transported down there to handle the case he has pending there. If the booking sheet shows his residence as the Lake Co. Jail I would suspect it is the latter...he is probably sentenced on the Lake County deal and doing time for them, and Riverside Co. picked him up so he is temporarily in their custody pending adjudication of the charges down south.
If he is being handled by an attorney, or even if the public defenders in both jurisdictions have talked they may be trying to get him sentenced for the Riverside stuff and run his time concurrently...which means he does time for both jurisdictions at the same time. Riverside will like this because he will be doing time for them, but in the Lake Co. facility, so no $ on their part.
However with the 4 million bail he is almost certainly looking at state time, and if Riverside sentences him to time in the joint he will go forthwith from Riverside to the state, and then his attorney in Lake Co. will have to try to get the Lake County DA to go along with him doing time to run concurrent. He may be playing to go to the joint and do time for everyone there. You can only do one year in a county jail as a sentence for a singular case, any more than that you go to the joint. I have seen judges pissed off enough to hang a 1 year sentence on a guy, then hang another 6 months or so on another charge, and shove it in all the way, making them do the time consecutively...one sentence after the other..finish your year get re booked for the second tour...not fun...
If you find anything else out please share it. Now ya got me interested...

I wish I could be more specific for you but there is just enough info here to state that both jurisdictions seem to have their hooks in him, the above are simply ways it could shake out. Sorry.

One last thought...pure speculation...both Riverside and Lake County have in the past had some serious methamphetamine problems...he may be a trafficker...might be why the bail is so high.
Thank you for your insight. Those are things that make sense but have never been brought up before. Then again, he never mentioned to my sister in-law that he has extensive priors on his record either.....

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First, all you have to do is contact inmate reception where he is held and they'll give you the info you're looking for. Most counties you can get that info online. 4 mil bail? That's gonna be one of the big ones (rape, murder, kidnap, etc). To be sitting in local lock-up waiting for a trial of that magnitude it is not uncommon AT ALL to be waiting trial for years (2, 3, 4, even 5!).

Second, is CPS already involved? Has the child been removed and placed in a temporary home and you're looking at becoming a longer term "foster parent"? Or are you considering legally adopting the child for long haul?

Either way, you can't just swipe a kid like some are suggesting. You can actually get in major trouble for that if your wifes sister decides she doesn't want to play that game. Also, going the legal route will protect you better. You need to get ahold of CPS if they're not already involved and go through the appropriate steps. It won't be impossible but there's some hoops. They will do full background on your guys, house checks, etc.

A good friend went through a similar situation with a neighbor of his. Kid was friends with his kids, mom was a tweeker, dad shipped off to prison. CPS stepped in on the last drug arrest of mom, took kid. Buddy approached CPS and offered to care for kid. CPS is actually very happy to turn over temporary custody of children to homes that are fit and ESPECIALLY when it's a relative. when it became clear mom and dad were going to be gone and found unfit, he eventually adopted kid. Kid was from a druggie home and does have some issues but I don't think my buddy regrets it.
 

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So.... Some updates....

When the mom dropped him off on Monday I had her sign a medical release form. Basically just a quick little letter that stated my wife and I had permission to authorize medical treatment and such for him while he was in our care. But, I added a little caviot to it that stated we had legal authority over him as well. She signed it and it was noterized. We'll come Saturday while we were at my parents house in Burbank, her sister flips a shit and demands her son back now and all kinds of crazy shit. We were trying to calm her down and let her see it was best for him to stay with us for a while. Well she went full race and drove to Burbank PD headquarters and supposedly tried to report him as kidnapped and gave them my parents address.

Well LEO visit #1 was very cordial and professional (all were really). He told us what was going on, asked us our side of the story etc. We told him what was going on and showed him the noterized letter. And since I put in the little caviot of the legal authority and it was noterized, the LEO's said it was a "Mom can poud rocks situation". We expressed there was concern and suspension of physical and mental abuse but very little proof.

Apparently she didn't take this news well and raised absolute hell in the police station. Because of that we had LEO visit #2 but this time it was a Sergeant. He didn't really share anything new although he did state he wished she had a warrant out for her arrest because she was raising so much hell in the station and making so many threats he wanted to arrest her. LEO says he wouldn't be surprised when he went to tell her the same thing, go home, she was going to come by and flip out and if that happened call 911 and they'll arrest her for tresspassing.

Well the threatening phone calls and texts keep coming from her (my wife was not responding at all). She then says in one of them that she spoke to James (shit head daddy that's in Jail) about what is happening and he's sending someone to come get him (her son). Well since we don't know what kind of connections he has outside lock-up, we call the PD and inform them which led to LEO visit #3.

At this time we find out the PD and CPS have spoken and due to the mental history of my sister in-law (2 5150 holds over the past 3 years) and the suspected abuse, CPS has started a case and would like us to file paperwork for temporary guardianship ASAP.

We didn't get back to town til 11pm last night so that is what I will be doing this afternoon.


BTW, you could tell how deprived he has been by the way he was eating (devouring anything put in front of him) and the fact he had no clue what to do when their was a bunch of people around (family and friends over for Easter Brunch). It was pretty sad and reafiming at the same time.

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Good on you guys for doing this. Give that kid a big hug and love him everyday, poor kid sounds like he needs more than some food.

You guys have suitable and sufficient clothes and toys for him for the time being?

Id like to help out if not, you aren't and don't have to ask, my family is offering.

So let me know what he has and what we can do to help.

Brian

So.... Some updates....

When the mom dropped him off on Monday I had her sign a medical release form. Basically just a quick little letter that stated my wife and I had permission to authorize medical treatment and such for him while he was in our care. But, I added a little caviot to it that stated we had legal authority over him as well. She signed it and it was noterized. We'll come Saturday while we were at my parents house in Burbank, her sister flips a shit and demands her son back now and all kinds of crazy shit. We were trying to calm her down and let her see it was best for him to stay with us for a while. Well she went full race and drove to Burbank PD headquarters and supposedly tried to report him as kidnapped and gave them my parents address.

Well LEO visit #1 was very cordial and professional (all were really). He told us what was going on, asked us our side of the story etc. We told him what was going on and showed him the noterized letter. And since I put in the little caviot of the legal authority and it was noterized, the LEO's said it was a "Mom can poud rocks situation". We expressed there was concern and suspension of physical and mental abuse but very little proof.

Apparently she didn't take this news well and raised absolute hell in the police station. Because of that we had LEO visit #2 but this time it was a Sergeant. He didn't really share anything new although he did state he wished she had a warrant out for her arrest because she was raising so much hell in the station and making so many threats he wanted to arrest her. LEO says he wouldn't be surprised when he went to tell her the same thing, go home, she was going to come by and flip out and if that happened call 911 and they'll arrest her for tresspassing.

Well the threatening phone calls and texts keep coming from her (my wife was not responding at all). She then says in one of them that she spoke to James (shit head daddy that's in Jail) about what is happening and he's sending someone to come get him (her son). Well since we don't know what kind of connections he has outside lock-up, we call the PD and inform them which led to LEO visit #3.

At this time we find out the PD and CPS have spoken and due to the mental history of my sister in-law (2 5150 holds over the past 3 years) and the suspected abuse, CPS has started a case and would like us to file paperwork for temporary guardianship ASAP.

We didn't get back to town til 11pm last night so that is what I will be doing this afternoon.


BTW, you could tell how deprived he has been by the way he was eating (devouring anything put in front of him) and the fact he had no clue what to do when their was a bunch of people around (family and friends over for Easter Brunch). It was pretty sad and reafiming at the same time.

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FL I reread your post and I got wet eyes dooood. Poorfuckinlittlekid.

I couldn't even imagine.

I get in tears when my girls are sick and coughing.

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So.... Some updates....

When the mom dropped him off on Monday I had her sign a medical release form. Basically just a quick little letter that stated my wife and I had permission to authorize medical treatment and such for him while he was in our care. But, I added a little caviot to it that stated we had legal authority over him as well. She signed it and it was noterized. We'll come Saturday while we were at my parents house in Burbank, her sister flips a shit and demands her son back now and all kinds of crazy shit. We were trying to calm her down and let her see it was best for him to stay with us for a while. Well she went full race and drove to Burbank PD headquarters and supposedly tried to report him as kidnapped and gave them my parents address.

Well LEO visit #1 was very cordial and professional (all were really). He told us what was going on, asked us our side of the story etc. We told him what was going on and showed him the noterized letter. And since I put in the little caviot of the legal authority and it was noterized, the LEO's said it was a "Mom can poud rocks situation". We expressed there was concern and suspension of physical and mental abuse but very little proof.

Apparently she didn't take this news well and raised absolute hell in the police station. Because of that we had LEO visit #2 but this time it was a Sergeant. He didn't really share anything new although he did state he wished she had a warrant out for her arrest because she was raising so much hell in the station and making so many threats he wanted to arrest her. LEO says he wouldn't be surprised when he went to tell her the same thing, go home, she was going to come by and flip out and if that happened call 911 and they'll arrest her for tresspassing.

Well the threatening phone calls and texts keep coming from her (my wife was not responding at all). She then says in one of them that she spoke to James (shit head daddy that's in Jail) about what is happening and he's sending someone to come get him (her son). Well since we don't know what kind of connections he has outside lock-up, we call the PD and inform them which led to LEO visit #3.

At this time we find out the PD and CPS have spoken and due to the mental history of my sister in-law (2 5150 holds over the past 3 years) and the suspected abuse, CPS has started a case and would like us to file paperwork for temporary guardianship ASAP.

We didn't get back to town til 11pm last night so that is what I will be doing this afternoon.


BTW, you could tell how deprived he has been by the way he was eating (devouring anything put in front of him) and the fact he had no clue what to do when their was a bunch of people around (family and friends over for Easter Brunch). It was pretty sad and reafiming at the same time.

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Well you had to know going in, it was going to be a pretty rocky road. As things progress into the future though you will be helping him turn into a well developed young man. I can't think of any higher honor in life than that.

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Yessir. Agreed 100%

Nothing worse than a young man with no sense of direction, belonging, or responsibility.

Well you had to know going in, it was going to be a pretty rocky road. As things progress into the future though you will be helping him turn into a well developed young man. I can't think of any higher honor in life than that.

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The poker player in me thinks the "call to the dad" was nothing more than a bluff.
 

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How old is the boy? I have a ton of clothes that my son has out grown and will ship them up if you need them.
 

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Good on you guys for doing this. Give that kid a big hug and love him everyday, poor kid sounds like he needs more than some food.

You guys have suitable and sufficient clothes and toys for him for the time being?

Id like to help out if not, you aren't and don't have to ask, my family is offering.

So let me know what he has and what we can do to help.

Brian

He's been getting so much love from my huge family this weekend I think he got a little over whelmed. Lol!

Thanks Brian. We really appreciate it. Since he's only a month younger than my youngest daughter we still have almost all the necessary baby gear. Between the clothes he already has and some handme downs from friends he's stocked pretty good on clothes.

FL I reread your post and I got wet eyes dooood. Poorfuckinlittlekid.

I couldn't even imagine.

I get in tears when my girls are sick and coughing.

Brian

I really didn't think I was gonna get as emmotionally inclvested as I did as quickly as I did but it was apparent right away how big 9f an impact the whole thing is having on him for the better.


The poker player in me thinks the "call to the dad" was nothing more than a bluff.

I'm pretty sure it was also but since I really don't know much about him besides what he was arrested for, I wanted to be sure.

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Well you had to know going in, it was going to be a pretty rocky road. As things progress into the future though you will be helping him turn into a well developed young man. I can't think of any higher honor in life than that.

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I did. I tried to get my wife to get CPS all the necessary authorities involved before the weekend cause I knew this was gonna come up since we were back down near her. But since it was something that is going to hang on her shoulders for the rest of her life (the sister's shoulders and life that is), I couldn't push too hard. I'm really glad we were able to get this going before she had a psycotic break and took out something on him. Being only 18 months he can't do anything about it.

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Good.

Most men are built a certain way sir, we are meant to be providers and protectors.

Nothing wrong with being prepared or safe sir.

I don't know if I caught his age, if I passed it over, or if you didn't mention....

Brian

He's been getting so much love from my huge family this weekend I think he got a little over whelmed. Lol!

Thanks Brian. We really appreciate it. Since he's only a month younger than my youngest daughter we still have almost all the necessary baby gear. Between the clothes he already has and some handme downs from friends he's stocked pretty good on clothes.

I really didn't think I was gonna get as emmotionally inclvested as I did as quickly as I did but it was apparent right away how big 9f an impact the whole thing is having on him for the better.


I'm pretty sure it was also but since I really don't know much about him besides what he was arrested for, I wanted to be sure.

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18 months.....

Good. He isn't really old enough to remember these times per se and these years wont even be a memory over the next three years.

All good things.

Brian
I did. I tried to get my wife to get CPS all the necessary authorities involved before the weekend cause I knew this was gonna come up since we were back down near her. But since it was something that is going to hang on her shoulders for the rest of her life (the sister's shoulders and life that is), I couldn't push too hard. I'm really glad we were able to get this going before she had a psycotic break and took out something on him. Being only 18 months he can't do anything about it.

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Thanks Brian. We really appreciate it. Since he's only a month younger than my youngest daughter we still have almost all the necessary baby gear. Between the clothes he already has and some handme downs from friends he's stocked pretty good on clothes.



I really didn't think I was gonna get as emmotionally inclvested as I did as quickly as I did but it was apparent right away how big 9f an impact the whole thing is having on him for the better.


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Going forward if you do need clothes we have a ton as well. Our youngest is already moving into 3T and he's not even 2 yet. We will have a ton of stuff he will be too big for so if you need let me know and I'll have my wife set them aside. Right now we just donate to local families that are in need. If you get to a point please let me know.

You can't help be get invested when a child is in need, it is what makes us human. I would have been a lot more surprised if you had not. Again, good on you guys, this is what good people do is help those who can't help themselves.
 

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That kid thinks it was fun/overwhelming with your family, wait till he gets out on the water with his RDP family. Good times are coming his way.
Haha!! I dunno. Ask Hammer, my family can be pretty crazy. Specially for almost all of them being in their 60ies now.

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Toys! I got tons of toys! How old is he? I can run them up to you guys this weekend!!!
 

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No advice here , but what a tear jerker.
Good on you fl, and all the others offering clothing and toys. Proof we are not lost as a society quite yet.:):):cool:
 

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Toys! I got tons of toys! How old is he? I can run them up to you guys this weekend!!!
Haha! Thanks, but I wouldn't know where to put them. Lol! Our house already has too many toys. And since he's only 18 months, he doesn't care if the toys are pink or blue or green or whatever. Lol!

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