Narcan

[FROGMAN524]

Do you carry Narcan? I keep meeting people who do in case they end up needing to save someone from ODing.

 

[4Waters]

Nope

 

[Dog]

Do you carry Narcan? I keep meeting people who do in case they end up needing to save someone from ODing.

I have seen a lot of post on a lot of forums asking this questions. I understand if it is a family member you are worried about however are you legally obligated to use it if you have it? It is a self inflicted issue, will possibly save society a lot of money if you don't use it. Sad and I am a sorry piece of shit but damn some of this shit is out of control.

I also understand "kids" can get a hold of something while experimenting and it could come in handy in that situation. I am so conflicted on this issue. lol

I believe there are classes on how to use it and you can get so many doses free in most cities.

 

[JayBreww]

Yes, but it’s on the fire engine.

 

[4Waters]

I have seen a lot of post on a lot of forums asking this questions. I understand if it is a family member you are worried about however are you legally obligated to use it if you have it? It is a self inflicted issue, will possibly save society a lot of money if you don't use it. Sad and I am a sorry piece of shit but damn some of this shit is out of control.

I'm not helping a dumbass leach live. Yeah I know I'm an asshole

 

[FlyByWire]

Yep!

 

[Havasujaws]

Do you carry Narcan? I keep meeting people who do in case they end up needing to save someone from ODing.

Why would I try to save someones life who is trying to end theirs?

 

[Dog]

Why would I try to save someones life who is trying to end theirs?

Could be your kid or the neighbor kid that took an aspirin from a friend. But I get it...

 

[Tank]

Man, could I tell stories about that Fuckin shit.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Lifers, no, I'd let them slip...
I would like to get some for my pack though. I'm around enough school functions and such, it may be worthwhile. Seen already young kids get real sick from their parents "special candies". Just a matter of time before something worse happens.

Maybe it's a bit like playing God, I don't know. Kids too young to know should get the chance to learn. The parents should really be the ones punished in that case.

 

[Jimmyv]

I figure if you have a family member struggling with addiction, I would consider having it around.

If it’s because I believe I’m going to need to save the life of someone else around me, I need to reconsider who I hang out with and call friends.

..

 

[bonesfab]

Narcan needs to be a one time chance for junkies. No here is your 10 narcan dose you fucking idiot. Just lIke the single page rap sheet. Printer Grabs a second page and you are done on the spot. Enough coddling these people.

 

[Dog]

Narcan needs to be a one time chance for junkies. No here is your 10 narcan dose you fucking idiot. Just lIke the single page rap sheet. Printer Grabs a second page and you are done on the spot. Enough coddling these people.

I heard on the scanner the other evening someone received 6 doses before they came back. I don't know my point here but damn what is the line?

 

[monkeyswrench]

I figure if you have a family member struggling with addiction, I would consider having it around.

If it’s because I believe I’m going to need to save the life of someone else around me, I need to reconsider who I hang out with and call friends.

..

Sometimes people may not be worried about if it's a friend or a random person. I've applied tourniquets to people...never once caring if I knew who they were. Sometimes you just end up doing things, and not strolling by. Everyone's threshold for action or intent is different I would think. Maybe it wouldn't be a friend, but the child of one, or a friend of a friend on the periphery.

 

[Racey]

I've been at Walgreens in Havasu more than once in the last year picking up Rx for my father, and heard the person in front of me who is getting pain pills asked if they want Narcan in case of an OD emergency.

 

[76sanger]

I know this sounds mean, I'm sorry, but why should I carry something to save someone who new the very possibility of dying from a drug they induced. So Nope!

 

[BingerFang]

I broke my back 2 weeks ago. They gave me narcan as part of my prescription.

 

[Jimmyv]

Sometimes people may not be worried about if it's a friend or a random person. I've applied tourniquets to people...never once caring if I knew who they were. Sometimes you just end up doing things, and not strolling by. Everyone's threshold for action or intent is different I would think. Maybe it wouldn't be a friend, but the child of one, or a friend of a friend on the periphery.

I didn’t mean to come off unsympathetic or rude, and I appreciate your point. Regardless of a situation, I wouldn’t leave a person in need.

I just have no desire to think of a scenario my EDC kit needs Narcan in it. I do have 10 in a clip and 1 in the hole though.

 

[HTTP404]

No.
But I am interested in learning how to apply a tourniquet and how to outfit a blowout bag.

 

[Desert Whaler]

Never gave it much thought to be honest.
Neighbors son died from a Fentanyl OD . . . 1st time they heard his head hit the wall in his room as he passed out . . . 911 / Narcan, and they brought him back.
2nd time, no one was around to save him.
I'm hardly ever around kids, or settings where I could use it.
Probably not a bad thing to have in a vehicle emergency kit if you're into that.
Probably other things I'd have 1st.
Saw the prices start around $30 per dose . . . and I'd imagine there's an expiration date . . . so won't be happening w/ Me anytime soon.

 

[Drew]

I broke my back 2 weeks ago. They gave me narcan as part of my prescription. View attachment 1196217

It’s not for you. It incase a kid gets into your pills.

 

[4Waters]

No.
But I am interested in learning how to apply a tourniquet and how to outfit a blowout bag.

Tourniquet is actually pretty easy, youtube it or stop buy your local Fire Station and they will give you a quick lesson.

 

[Drew]

I have seen adults with injury get caught up in the addiction . Even me. I broke my leg and 14 months later broke my whole right side of my body . I was in pain meds for almost a year. And if any of you think that it is easy to get off your out of your mind . It wasn’t self inflicted but I wasn’t easy to get off . So it’s not just junkies it’s regular people and the poor kids that don’t know just how hard it is to stop. It really is a
Epidemic worse the the “ crack” years of the 90’s. It’s really sad

 

[NicPaus]

One of the guys that used to work for Me saved 17 one year. He is in a rock band now and there studio was where a bunch of heroin addicts hung out. Studio owner inherited it all. Burned down a few weeks ago. Who knows what they did. Bad ass car collection Burned up as well. He had some crazy details. All the addicts carry it. Said a few of the chicks he hit with Narcan and then jammed a few ice cubes in there ass to revive. More Than once they would OD get out of hospital and OD on same bad batch that killed them once already.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I didn’t mean to come off unsympathetic or rude, and I appropriate your point. Regardless of a situation, I wouldn’t leave a person in need.

I just have no desire to think of a scenario my EDC kit needs Narcan in it. I do have 10 in a clip and 1 in the hole though.

My kit has both a hole punch, and a patch kit. Been where I could have used both, and now carry both in car if not on person. All just tools, but tools you don't want to use. That's how I see Narcan. Haven't been in need, but would rather be prepared than not.

 

[Havasujaws]

Could be your kid or the neighbor kid that took an aspirin from a friend. But I get it...

Ok I get it but here is the problem. Those who choose to use dope start to rely on us who have narcan to save their life. Im issued narcan and I will use it to save anyone's life. I just don't think it should be used as a lifeline.

 

[BingerFang]

It’s not for you. It incase a kid gets into your pills.

What if I take too many of my pills?

 

[Drew]

What if I take too many of my pills?

That too but you are supposed to be smart enough

 

[Drew]

One of the guys that used to work for Me saved 17 one year. He is in a rock band now and their studio was where a bunch of heroin addicts hung out. Studio owner inherited it all. Burned down a few weeks ago. Who knows what they did. Bad ass car collection Burned up as well. He had some crazy details. All the addicts carry it. Said a few of the chicks he hit with Narcan and then jammed a few ice cubes in their ass to revive. More Than once they would OD get out of hospital and OD on same bad batch that killed them once already.

Ice cubes

 

[Drew]

I would bet anything that even the most ignorant chemist at big farma know how to remove the addictive quality to all the pain meds. Instead they make them even more addictive in the oxy brands

 

[rrrr]

I broke my back 2 weeks ago. They gave me narcan as part of my prescription. View attachment 1196217

I'm prescribed an amount of fentanyl that could be fatal if I accidentally misused it. It could also easily kill someone that's not opioid tolerant.

That's why there's Narcan in the kitchen cabinet. My medical insurance pays for it.

 

[G Supertramp]

Always carry it, just in case I have a too good of time.

 

[4Waters]

Ice cubes

That's a new to me as well

 

[FROGMAN524]

This thread delivers!

Let me clarify, I’m not related to anybody or friends with anybody who does drugs of any kind. I don’t even know anybody who drinks or smokes tobacco more than occasionally. However, it seems I’m meeting people left and right who carry Narcan in their vehicle in case a junkie ODs in their immediate vicinity however unlikely that may be.

 

[rrrr]

That's a new to me as well

I'm wondering if they were round or square.

 

[Drew]

Now this would be a party, Narcan and these ice cubes

 

[poncho]

I have seen adults with injury get caught up in the addiction . Even me. I broke my leg and 14 months later broke my whole right side of my body . I was in pain meds for almost a year. And if any of you think that it is easy to get off your out of your mind . It wasn’t self inflicted but I wasn’t easy to get off . So it’s not just junkies it’s regular people and the poor kids that don’t know just how hard it is to stop. It really is a
Epidemic worse the the “ crack” years of the 90’s. It’s really sad

Wrecked my crotch rocket in my early 20's and messed up an ankle bad, 8 weeks recoup. Prescription in the hospital post surgery was x amount every 4 hours, being out of it I didn't notice it was half for home.
Couple weeks later I'm calling my Docs office on a Friday morning in an absolute panic realizing I wouldn't make it through the weekend.
These were the days of pagers and he finally calls me and says your script shouldn't be empty by now, how many are you taking?
Scared the shit out of me and haven't messed with pain pills since.

I understand somewhat how a person can get into a bad spot with that stuff, for me I realized I liked them too much and that meant never again.

 

[Ducksquasher]

Good point on kids taking a "Tylenol" or something from a friend...I guess not a bad idea to have it around in case. That is a big fear of mine.

Have to put some thought into that.

 

[welldigger00]

It’s so easy for some to to say that if ”these” people get into a situation using drugs, fuck them, and let them die. What about the dumb ass 23 year old kid that is a good kid, that smokes weed here and there, and makes a poor choice to do coke from a dealer off the street, and winds up in the morgue? What if that kid is one of yore good buddies son? What if yore watching your good buddy go through the absolute worst thing in the world, and you don’t know if he can make it through? Do you still say fuck that kid?

 

[ChiliPepperGarage]

I carry several in my med bag. Of course we carry it on the ambos.

I have never administered to a druggie but we have a lot of elderly here and occasionally they forget they took their meds so they take a second dose and OD. Had to use Narcan a few times in that scenario.

We would administer to a druggie if called on scene. We have no choice. We can't pick and chose who we treat.

 

[pronstar]

I’d like to have some on hand as the boys get older…does it require a prescription of is it OTC?

 

[gqchris]

Back in my early days working 911 calls in an ambulance, I used it about 4-5 times. Two instances, we saved the person and they became combative that we ruined their high. Crazy shit.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

RDP delivers again

 

[BingerFang]

RDP delivers again

Gotta love this site. Nothing more entertaining than a bunch of alpha males giving their 2 cents over the internet

 

[havasujeeper]

When I had my narcotic detecting K-9, I had to carry Narcan with me at all times. Since the dose was specifically measured for my 88 pound dog, it would have very little effect on a human being. It also had to be temperature controlled, so if it got too hot in the police car, the Narcan would not work. It sounds like a good idea for everyone to carry, but I would only use it for a close family member or friend. If someone wants to play with fentanyl, or any other heavy opiate, I think if they want to be saved, they should carry it around their neck, kind of like a Medic-Alert necklace. No necklace, no saving them!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Gotta love this site. Nothing more entertaining than a bunch of alpha males giving their 2 cents over the internet

Alphas? Anyone can carry around a soapbox.

 

[welldigger00]

My comments come from personal experience. The kid I was talking about passed away last weekend.

 

[charred1]

Personally I am torn. In my profession, I often see two different scenarios play out. There’s one scenario with the junkie that couldn’t care less and the second is the kid that doesn’t really know the implications of popping a pill. Because of the latter, it’s difficult for me to be a hard no on carrying narcan.

We have a saying…”one for the show, 2 for the road!” Pretty ridiculous really, but after we narcan an individual from their near death state, they generally wake up, deny that they took any drugs and admittedly argue that they were just sleeping…in their own vomit. Lol! 99% of the time, they refuse any further treatment or transport and then we have to give them two 2 packaged doses to throw in their pocket. More times than not, we will be responding to this same individual within a couple days…wash, rinse, repeat. All of this amounts to another expense placed on the taxpayers back. They (our fearless leaders) don’t want to fix drug addiction, because if they did, there would be a lot of people not getting paid…politicians, lawyers, pharma, doctors, special interests groups etc.

The shitty part, we are running on a lot of younger age kids…12-16 y/o that are getting caught up in fentanyl. Many not realizing the Oxy pill they popped was laced with fentanyl. I wouldn’t call these kids junkies…most are good kids, coming from good families, a kid that just made a poor decision. Seeing parents anguish and fear as we roll up and hearing the pleads of mom to save her baby is what gets me the most. It hurts me being a parent, imagining what they are going through. Those of you with kids, don’t get it twisted, if you think your kids would never do it, you could be in a world of hurt. Make sure to talk to them openly about the dangers of any of these drugs.

At the end of the day, it’s easy to become callous and I get it. I have become that way too. I have to remind myself that it’s not just junkies doing these drugs. If you feel it necessary to carry some narcan, God bless you…you might be saving some kid’s life and at the same time saving a family from a lifetime of hurt and grief.

 

[BingerFang]

Alphas? Anyone can carry around a soapbox.

Which is why Facebook is popular.

 

[NicPaus]

One of the high schools I went to. Heroin is now the equivalent of weed was when I went there. Peninsula high. Kids just starting out in life can and do end up OD on a regular basis these days with fentanyl. Not just junkies.