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My pup ruptured her Cranial Cruciate Ligament

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She was all pumped up and jumped out of the work van from the front seat and blew it out.
Vet says she needs surgery to repair it. 12 weeks of no stairs, no play, no climbing on and off the couch, etc.
The hard part will be getting her in and out of the house.
I'll have to carry her up and down 14 stairs. Plus, our whole house is pretty much hardwood floors. Slick for a 3-legged pup.

Almost 30 years ago, my 1st Rotti did the same thing at about 2 years old. Got it fixed, and she blew the other knee 6 months later
Got it fixed, and she was all good the rest of her life.
Tesa is almost 10. 11 is the oldest any of my 4 Rotties and 4 of my buddies rotts have lived to.
I have mixed feelings about the surgery.
She's really active and healthy for 9 years old. She's little for a Rotti. But she's getting old, and I've really seen her slow down over the last year.
Vet thinks she's got a few more years in her, and she's healthy enough to get the surgery. He also says she will most likely blow the other one out within a year.
Anybodies pup ever have
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this injury and it healed on its own?
 

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My last rottie had both legs done. It won’t heal on its own.

She blew her first knee out at 2 and we were very mindful of her I’m just and didn’t let her run and jump out of truck etc. her second went out at 6 years and she was fine.

She was a big girl at 120lbs.
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She was all pumped up and jumped out of the work van from the front seat and blew it out.
Vet says she needs surgery to repair it. 12 weeks of no stairs, no play, no climbing on and off the couch, etc.
The hard part will be getting her in and out of the house.
I'll have to carry her up and down 14 stairs. Plus, our whole house is pretty much hardwood floors. Slick for a 3-legged pup.

Almost 30 years ago, my 1st Rotti did the same thing at about 2 years old. Got it fixed, and she blew the other knee 6 months later
Got it fixed, and she was all good the rest of her life.
Tesa is almost 10. 11 is the oldest any of my 4 Rotties and 4 of my buddies rotts have lived to.
I have mixed feelings about the surgery.
She's really active and healthy for 9 years old. She's little for a Rotti. But she's getting old, and I've really seen her slow down over the last year.
Vet thinks she's got a few more years in her, and she's healthy enough to get the surgery. He also says she will most likely blow the other one out within a year.
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My pup Roxy. She blew it out at Lake Tahoe.....she slowed down after that and I of course stopped her from jumping up/down anymore. I guess she was around 10-11 when that happened and she lived to over 16. I won't say it healed on its own but after a while and with slowing down it didn't seem to have her in any pain at all.
 

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My sisters big GS (100+lbs) just had the surgery at Texas A&M. They allowed discounts for veteran and police officer service. I think they paid about 2K with a discount of apx 4K. They applied for the discounts but were going ahead with the surgery regardless. I would have a hard time justifying 6K or more for a pup of mine for surgery. Its a personal decision and you will make the right one for you and the pup.
 

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Get pet insurance asap

You can buy pet insurance but in order for it to be valid you need to take your pet to a vet within 30 days and provide them with the clean bill of health or else the insurance will not be valid…. But you’ll still get charged monthly.

Ask me how I know, lol.
 

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My sisters big GS (100+lbs) just had the surgery at Texas A&M. They allowed discounts for veteran and police officer service. I think they paid about 2K with a discount of apx 4K. They applied for the discounts but were going ahead with the surgery regardless. I would have a hard time justifying 6K or more for a pup of mine for surgery. Its a personal decision and you will make the right one for you and the pup.
$5k is what our vet says it will cost.
If she was younger, there would be zero questions. I would do it in a heart beat.
Been dog broke before.
Hate to put her through 3 months of pain and recovery at 9 years old. I worry it will change her.
 

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$5k is what our vet says it will cost.
If she was younger, there would be zero questions. I would do it in a heart beat.
Been dog broke before.
Hate to put her through 3 months of pain and recovery at 9 years old. I worry it will change her.
I get it......tough decision to make.
 

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One of my labs blew his out and I had it fixed and yes, he blew the other one out also and had that one fixed. A female from the same litter blew hers out and they elected not to do anything. The pup lived a long, healthy life just not as active and more sedate. That pup actually outlived my pup about a year longer.
 

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Where do you live? We have a great vet in TJ Otay Mese port of entry. I know someone and his Healer had the same injury and in San Diego they wanted 7k for the surgery. He went down and If I recall the operations was $1300. Its defiantly worth talking to them.
Lucky our dog has never had anything bad happen, but we use them for other more routine things.
 

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$5k is what our vet says it will cost.
If she was younger, there would be zero questions. I would do it in a heart beat.
Been dog broke before.
Hate to put her through 3 months of pain and recovery at 9 years old. I worry it will change her.
It’s your buddy you have to have the surgery done
 

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Where do you live? We have a great vet in TJ Otay Mese port of entry. I know someone and his Healer had the same injury and in San Diego they wanted 7k for the surgery. He went down and If I recall the operations was $1300. Its defiantly worth talking to them.
Lucky our dog has never had anything bad happen, but we use them for other more routine things.
Near Denver
 

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Sorry to hear it. Tough spot. We had two TPLOs as well with our Sheppard (one year apart) and it was North of $15,000. At the time, if memory serves, there was a fusion option of some sort but he (Gunther) was still pretty young so we opted for the full boat both times.
 

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Sorry to hear it. Tough spot. We had two TPLOs as well with our Sheppard (one year apart) and it was North of $15,000. At the time, if memory serves, there was a fusion option of some sort but he (Gunther) was still pretty young so we opted for the full boat both times.
Yes same, he was only 2
 

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Was thinking about this since I was told about it.
Any chance you could limit her to the kitchen/upstairs and have a plastic tray on the deck for her to do her business?
Pee pads or actual dirt on the tray to soak up the mess and cleanable.

I’m sure she has a couple more seasons of stealing my camp chair in her😂
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Sorry to hear of your pups injury endo. Look into the tight rope surgery. It's much less envasive, expensive, works well when done correctly and only 1 month recovery time if that. It's designed and used for pro sports athletes. We had both done on our 3yr old choc lab. Reese. She had full strength/activity afterward for 11 yrs. It's a solid compromise. Good luck with what ever you choose to do.
 

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Was thinking about this since I was told about it.
Any chance you could limit her to the kitchen/upstairs and have a plastic tray on the deck for her to do her business?
Pee pads or actual dirt on the tray to soak up the mess and cleanable.

I’m sure she has a couple more seasons of stealing my camp chair in her😂
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That's definitely something worth considering. I could build her something.
Training her stubborn ass might be a bitch.
I feel she's got a couple more years too. She's spry still. She will be pissed being penned up and she's really is not stoked on being picked up.
 

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Sorry to hear of your pups injury endo. Look into the tight rope surgery. It's much less envasive, expensive, works well when done correctly and only 1 month recovery time if that. It's designed and used for pro sports athletes. We had both done on our 3yr old choc lab. Reese. She had full strength/activity afterward for 11 yrs. It's a solid compromise. Good luck with what ever you choose to do.
Thanks. I'll look in to this.
 

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That's definitely something worth considering. I could build her something.
Training her stubborn ass might be a bitch.
I feel she's got a couple more years too. She's spry still. She will be pissed being penned up and she's really is not stoked on being picked up.
After the surgery she’s going to really not like being picked up.
She’s going to be more pissed she can’t get up on her spot and look out the window for bears.

Thinking full size dog kennel tray.
Maybe some skate board grip tape on the underside to keep it from sliding under her.
 

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That's definitely something worth considering. I could build her something.
Training her stubborn ass might be a bitch.
I feel she's got a couple more years too. She's spry still. She will be pissed being penned up and she's really is not stoked on being picked up.
Is she currently able to get up and walk around eat drink, and do her business? Overtime with anti-inflammatories she may be able to get around just fine just not as fast and not as active. Maybe a second opinion from a different vet.
 

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Is she currently able to get up and walk around, eat, drink, and do her business? Overtime with anti-inflammatories she may be able to get around just fine just not as fast and not as active. Maybe a second opinion from a different vet.
She's getting around. Eating, drinking and still following me around.
Sometimes, putting a little weight on it.
 

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Dogs are extremely resilient and courageous. They will struggle thru pain to carry on and be with their people/pack..she can continue daily life but it will be painful for her and that's hard to ignore, for me anyways. When Reese had her TPLO surgery the vet gave us a "dog cradle support dealio" to walk her out to potty etc. It's basically a towel with handles on the ends. You loop it under their waist and carry their hind end where ever you need to take them. They are not supposed to put any weight on their restructured joint. Also, she will get constipated from the pain meds so you can put pumpkin in their food to help w/that....raw pumpkin, not the sweet pie mix shit. The docs should tell you all this.
She will be heavily sedated for the 1st couple months to help keep her calm and pain free-ish. The TPLO surgery will take a toll on her at her age.
 

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Rotties are hard on themselves. We went through this same stuff.
 

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She's getting around. Eating, drinking and still following me around.
Sometimes, putting a little weight on it.
The way it was explained to me is scar tissue will develop around the injury and help to stabilize it overtime. That along with anti-inflammatories can live a pretty normal life. It’s definitely hard to look at your pup being in pain, many dogs are very stoic and don’t show it. As long as she’s not panting constantly as if in pain, not doing the repair might be an option to discuss with your vet.

My lab had to have it done three times because one of the repairs he (ripped up) so I had to take him to a specialist in Phoenix. It’s hard to keep a two-year-old Lab calm. 🤣 this was about 14 or 15 years ago so procedures may have changed.
 
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