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So we deport an immigrant and what, they throw him/her back over the fence?

If the cartel keeps mixing it up with the BP we could wind up in a border skirmish.
 

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To me.. the big question…
What is Canada going to do…
Because Columbia backed down, Mexico caved in… Canada either makes amends and gives Trump a win, or they will go into a recession immediately…
 

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The Trudeau factor means Canada will do something both stupid and self destructive.
What concession should they give up?

They are an ally and a trading partner. Their citizens that overstay visas are white, own property in America and spend a bunch of money here. They are not a large source of drugs for the American market.

Their trade deficits are mainly in energy, aerospace and recreation. Not sure what they give for a perceived “win”.

Maybe a new Can Am for the President to rip around camp David? 🤷
 

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What concession should they give up?

They are an ally and a trading partner. Their citizens that overstay visas are white, own property in America and spend a bunch of money here. They are not a large source of drugs for the American market.

Their trade deficits are mainly in energy, aerospace and recreation. Not sure what they give for a perceived “win”.

Maybe a new Can Am for the President to rip around camp David? 🤷

I cannot speak for Trump at all…
A win for him is mitigating the trade deficit and getting Canada to allow more American company’s to sell into their markets. We are limited in many industries, but Trumps key points will be Banking, Agriculture & Automotive at a minimum. And they have to start controlling their own borders better. So bad peeps cant fly into Canada and walk across the US Border.

Pretty sure the above will be the talking points, but its either Canada negotiates or they will be put in a American consumer time out.

In my humble opinion… Canada needs the US, alot more than we need Canada.

If you recall Canada pissed of the Chinese over the Cellular company Executive, that Canada held for a few years. Huewei something to that effect. So Canada can’t replace the US trades $$$ with Chinese $$$, maybe France wants more Canadian stuff LOL… I am being stupid because lots of Canadians are 100% positive they are French… even though they where born in Canada, and their parents where born in Canada, and their grandparents… But their French.. WTF … thats just stupid.
 
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What concession should they give up?

They are an ally and a trading partner. Their citizens that overstay visas are white, own property in America and spend a bunch of money here. They are not a large source of drugs for the American market.

Their trade deficits are mainly in energy, aerospace and recreation. Not sure what they give for a perceived “win”.

Maybe a new Can Am for the President to rip around camp David? 🤷
Fentanyl is also made in Canada and smuggled into the U.S., but to a much lesser extent. U.S. customs agents seized 43 pounds (19.5 kilograms) of fentanyl at the Canadian border during the last fiscal year, compared with 21,100 pounds (9,570 kilograms) at the Mexican border.

Seizures of fentanyl jumped by as much as tenfold under President Joe Biden, an increase that may reflect improved detection.

 

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The Trudeau factor means Canada will do something both stupid and self destructive.
Thats not going to end well for Canada… but thats my opinion, which I outlined above.
 

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What concession should they give up?

They are an ally and a trading partner. Their citizens that overstay visas are white, own property in America and spend a bunch of money here. They are not a large source of drugs for the American market.

Their trade deficits are mainly in energy, aerospace and recreation. Not sure what they give for a perceived “win”.

Maybe a new Can Am for the President to rip around camp David? 🤷

What the hell does their skin color have to do with it? 🤣 🤣 🤣
 

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I cannot speak for Trump at all…
A win for him is mitigating the trade deficit and getting Canada to allow more American company’s to sell into their markets. We are limited in many industries, but Trumps key points will be Banking, Agriculture & Automotive at a minimum. And they have to start controlling their own borders better. So bad peeps cant fly into Canada and walk across the US Border.

Pretty sure the above will be the talking points, but its either Canada negotiates or they will be put in a American consumer time out.

In my humble opinion… Canada needs the US, alot more than we need Canada.

If you recall Canada pissed of the Chinese over the Cellular company Executive, that Canada held for a few years. Huewei something to that effect. So Canada can’t replace the US trades $$$ with Chinese $$$, maybe France wants more Canadian stuff LOL… I am being stupid because lots of Canadians are 100% positive they are French… even though they where born in Canada, and their parents where born in Canada, and their grandparents… But their French.. WTF … thats just stupid.
It will push US law enforcement from Bell products to Airbus products as 25 percent is a hell of an advantage on a 12 million dollar product for US taxpayers to absorb as well as spares.

It will be interesting at the trade show in a month.

Probably some opportunity to take advantage of the arbitrage.
 

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Conspiracy theorists were right……..AGAIN!!! 🤣
 

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It will push US law enforcement from Bell products to Airbus products as 25 percent is a hell of an advantage on a 12 million dollar product for US taxpayers to absorb as well as spares.

It will be interesting at the trade show in a month.

Probably some opportunity to take advantage of the arbitrage.

AKA my bottom dollar is going to suffer because we want to keep manufacturing here in the US. Atleast that's the way I read it 🤷‍♂️
 

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AKA my bottom dollar is going to suffer because we want to keep manufacturing here in the US. Atleast that's the way I read it 🤷‍♂️

I think…
I think…. But cannot confirm…
Trump is aware that if he does not curb inflation, then Republicans will lose House/Senate in 2 years, then he is a lame duck, and to make matters worse… Republicans will probably also lose in 4 years.…

I have stated many times, Trump is not my first choice for POTUS, for many reasons. Yes I did vote for him, because he was alot better than the alternative.

Columbia/Panama/Mexico have negotiated and things have gone pretty well for them since…
Now its up to Canada… either use the negotiation tactic, or get stupid and fight tariffs with tariffs…

China… they are in a world hurt regardless what more Trump tariffs. I dont think they will be solvent in a 4-5 years for many reasons. But more US Tariffs could speed that up.
 

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AKA my bottom dollar is going to suffer because we want to keep manufacturing here in the US. Atleast that's the way I read it 🤷‍♂️
Airbus in foreign manufactured also, just in a non-tariffed jurisdiction. Although Bell is owned by an American company, their manufacturing is in Canada and as a result subject to the 25% tax.

Just like threads in here, everyone wants a product that can meet their needs for the lowest cost. That is why Amazon and Walmart are so successful, the consumer demands it. Customers will naturally switch from an American product, Bell, that is subject to a tariff, to another product that is not taxed, Airbus. And in this case the person paying is the American taxpayer, so naturally they don't want to pay even more tax to pay for an increased tax. That is a natural rational reaction.

Unless the President puts tariffs on all 194 other countries, businesses will simply move to wherever they can deliver what the consumer demands for the lowest price. If they don't they go out of business as the consumer goes elsewhere. Those who can not, will simply lose business to those that can.

Everyone wants to blame greedy companies, but they just do whatever the consumer demands with their wallet. Don't listen to what people say about supporting American made, look what they do with their wallets. And all one has to do is look at what businesses are growing to understand the harsh reality.
 

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I think…
I think…. But cannot confirm…
Trump is aware that if he does not curb inflation, then Republicans will lose House/Senate in 2 years, then he is a lame duck, and to make matters worse… Republicans will probably also lose in 4 years.…

I have stated many times, Trump is not my first choice for POTUS, for many reasons. Yes I did vote for him, because he was alot better than the alternative.

Columbia/Panama/Mexico have negotiated and things have gone pretty well for them since…
Now its up to Canada… either use the negotiation tactic, or get stupid and fight tariffs with tariffs…

China… they are in a world hurt regardless what more Trump tariffs. I dont think they will be solvent in a 4-5 years for many reasons. But more US Tariffs could speed that up.
Although the chinese government hates tariffs from America, due to currency controls Chinese businessmen love tariffs placed on china by trump. They are praying for higher tariffs.
 

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Everyone back to work, show is over.......
 

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It will push US law enforcement from Bell products to Airbus products as 25 percent is a hell of an advantage on a 12 million dollar product for US taxpayers to absorb as well as spares.

It will be interesting at the trade show in a month.

Probably some opportunity to take advantage of the arbitrage.

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Just like all of your predictions and analysis on here.... they never come to fruition! Womp Womp 🤣🤣🤣
 

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Looks like a lot of cold sweats and withdrawals coming.
 

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It's absolutley GLORIOUS watching all the success. The Libs and Doomsayers come up with all their doom and Gloom, he succeeds before they even have their talking points down and he's on to the next thing. Leaving them spinning in His Wake.
LOVING IT!!!!
 
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Just like all of your predictions and analysis on here.... they never come to fruition! Womp Womp 🤣🤣🤣
Nobody knows, it is only on hold for 30 days.

People will suck up domestically located inventory not subject to tariffs and long orders will be uncertain until tariff uncertainty is resolved.

Sellers will naturally state quotes are no longer good if tariffs are enacted and buyers will want pricing assured leading to uncertainty until finally resolved.

Just another day of exciting business.
 

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Nobody knows, it is only on hold for 30 days.

People will suck up domestically located inventory not subject to tariffs and long orders will be uncertain until tariff uncertainty is resolved.

Sellers will naturally state quotes are no longer good if tariffs are enacted and buyers will want pricing assured leading to uncertainty until finally resolved.

Just another day of exciting business.
What'a with you? You can't see any good in what he has DONE? He's simply asking our neighbors to do their part in controlling illegal activities.
Which any person with common sense can see is a good thing..
 

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What'a with you? You can't see any good in what he has DONE? He's simply asking our neighbors to do their part in controlling illegal activities.
Which any person with common sense can see is a good thing..
I think thats a good thing.

But the uncertainty of the tariffs remain. And I can also see that.

I’m also not sure that threatening extreme economic hardship on our northern neighbor is necessary given the 43 total pounds of fentanyl seized on the Canadian border, approximately .02 percent of the total fentanyl seized by the US in 2024.

I get some people like the tough guy bully stuff. I’m not certain it is a successful long term strategy. Large economic risks remain as the tariffs are to begin in 30 days. But time will tell.

Lastly as a business owner, my personal view is that telling businesses as well as our neighbors that the very trade agreement that this president negotiated and stated was the “best agreement in the history of trade agreements”, is not worth the paper it was written on and is null and void based upon these actions today, could result in diminished investment and certainty in the US economy.
 
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What'a with you? You can't see any good in what he has DONE? He's simply asking our neighbors to do their part in controlling illegal activities.
Which any person with common sense can see is a good thing..
No, he hates America
 

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Nobody knows, it is only on hold for 30 days.

People will suck up domestically located inventory not subject to tariffs and long orders will be uncertain until tariff uncertainty is resolved.

Sellers will naturally state quotes are no longer good if tariffs are enacted and buyers will want pricing assured leading to uncertainty until finally resolved.

Just another day of exciting business.

You wanna know what folds like a wet tortilla?your theories 🤣🤣🤣
 

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Conspiracy theorists were right……..AGAIN!!! 🤣
If true, this is one of the several reasons the Libturd Party and Super Ultra Conservatives in our government have trying to kill another Trump Presidency. They know they are all a bunch of corrupt and compromised useful idiots that should lose their jobs, government pensions, and more than likely spend some time in the gray bar hotel.
 

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I think thats a good thing.

But the uncertainty of the tariffs remain. And I can also see that.

I’m also not sure that threatening extreme economic hardship on our northern neighbor is necessary given the 43 total pounds of fentanyl seized on the Canadian border, approximately .02 percent of the total fentanyl seized by the US in 2024.

I get some people like the tough guy bully stuff. I’m not certain it is a successful long term strategy. Large economic risks remain as the tariffs are to begin in 30 days. But time will tell.

Lastly as a business owner, my personal view is that telling businesses as well as our neighbors that the very trade agreement that this president negotiated and stated was the “best agreement in the history of trade agreements”, is not worth the paper it was written on and is null and void based upon these actions today, could result in diminished investment and certainty in the US economy.
"43 pounds" is all that was seized. If everyone had the same attitude as you have for years and years how much didn't get "seized"? How many lives can 43 pounds affect? Does it matter or is that just a statistic also?
 

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Defending Democracy's president is Bill Kristol and its directors are Mona Charen, Linda Chavez, and Sarah Longwell. Judging by Kristol's presence and its directors, Defending Democracy is essentially the nonprofit arm of Kristol's post-Weekly Standard/anti-Trump project, The Bulwark.

Whatever it is that Defending Democracy Together does, it doesn't seem to do much of it in public. The group's website doesn't appear to have been updated since 2021. Although the Donate button seems to work.

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Lock up @530RL ’s grifting friends who steal our tax dollars Donnie!!

Orange man bad, Orange….man….BAD!!!!

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I think thats a good thing.

But the uncertainty of the tariffs remain. And I can also see that.

I’m also not sure that threatening extreme economic hardship on our northern neighbor is necessary given the 43 total pounds of fentanyl seized on the Canadian border, approximately .02 percent of the total fentanyl seized by the US in 2024.

I get some people like the tough guy bully stuff. I’m not certain it is a successful long term strategy. Large economic risks remain as the tariffs are to begin in 30 days. But time will tell.

Lastly as a business owner, my personal view is that telling businesses as well as our neighbors that the very trade agreement that this president negotiated and stated was the “best agreement in the history of trade agreements”, is not worth the paper it was written on and is null and void based upon these actions today, could result in diminished investment and certainty in the US economy.


150 border crossers that were caught and were found to be on a terrorist watch list from Canada, compared to 35 from Mexico.
 

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This is one that I'm not sure about, if the feds set standards then every student gets the same education (in theory) if it's at the state level then there will be 50 different standards as opposed to 1. The department of education definitely needs to be reeled in that's for sure, all they should be doing is setting a standard and enforcing it, that's it. That would make for a small department.
 

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This is one that I'm not sure about, if the feds set standards then every student gets the same education (in theory) if it's at the state level then there will be 50 different standards as opposed to 1. The department of education definitely needs to be reeled in that's for sure, all they should be doing is setting a standard and enforcing it, that's it. That would make for a small department.
Like in the private sector, it will encourage competition and the end result will be better. Nobody wants to be the loser.
 
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