I think when you get into the 120K for a basic build most of the average people go a different directionI can’t believe they aren’t selling these 21’s by the boat load with an outboard on them!
Your a little off on that price....I think when you get into the 120K for a basic build most of the average people go a different direction
I maybe a little low on the numbers these days - this was about 2 years ago and I was right under 120k with no stereo, standard gel etc.Your a little off on that price....
Try around 170 with a Mercury 400 they are calling it the entry level boat for Elimnator lolI maybe a little low on the numbers these days - this was about 2 years ago and I was right under 120k with no stereo, standard gel etc.
Wow, not going to sell many with that strategy.Try around 170 with a Mercury 400 they are calling it the entry level boat for Elimnator lol
It is amazing and I guess that answers everyone's question. Not Bashing Eliminator by any means as I have had 5 Eliminator's and currently have a 25 but they are getting to much money on their other builds and put a if you really want it price on the 21's or 22's. I want my interior redone on the 25 and went to Eliminator 5 months ago and was floored on the price. All I wanted was it stay original 03 style and all the wood / seats are perfect they just have a discoloration as the Vinyl they used in 03 had a couple funky batches and they did the well if you want it price. The Economy is on fire and Capitalize while you can because we know we're it is going. Just my 02Try around 170 with a Mercury 400 they are calling it the entry level boat for Elimnator lol
Wow, not going to sell many with that strategy.
When my buddy called he was thinking maybe 80k he asked again just to make sure he heard them right you can pick up a used one in great shape for a lot cheaperIt is amazing and I guess that answers everyone's question. Not Bashing Eliminator by any means as I have had 5 Eliminator's and currently have a 25 but they are getting to much money on their other builds and put a if you really want it price on the 21's or 22's. I want my interior redone on the 25 and went to Eliminator 5 months ago and was floored on the price. All I wanted was it stay original 03 style and all the wood / seats are perfect they just have a discoloration as the Vinyl they used in 03 had a couple funky batches and they did the well if you want it price. The Economy is on fire and Capitalize while you can because we know we're it is going. Just my 02
Do you work for Elimnator?To be clear there has been no pricing available for a 21’ build for some time now. If you are interested in building a 21’ Daytona Jet or Outboard don’t believe what you read on the internet...... Give me a call and get on the list for more information as we iron out the details.
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I absolutely love our 21 with twins. I am having a windshield done that is 3" higher and we dropped the seats 1" to sit more "inside" the boat. It rides amazing in the slop, little tail heavy with twins, but it's an animal. My wife and daughter love it. Don't see any with twins these days which makes the cool factor even more.I can’t believe they aren’t selling these 21’s by the boat load with an outboard on them!
The trailer spent the night here on it's way to Eliminator in CA. One of my friends brought it to Parker, another dropped it at Eliminator the next morning.
Do you work for Elimnator?
Just gave your number to another buddy looking to get into a fun deck
Looks amazing Mike and can't wait to see this build especially after the PlacecraftThere's a long list of folks I need to thank for making this happen including yourself and your friends for getting the trailer moved. And here's some answers to everyones questions:
Riverdave connected me with Jake at Eliminator last year because i wanted a fast family boat that i could do some drag racing with and so I bought a bare 21' Daytona hull, taking delivery last week. Eliminator and specifically Gelcoater (Larry) and Jose went above and beyond on the gel and lamination. For a hand-laminated hull, its remarkably clean inside and I wouldn't change a thing. I have yet to weigh it myself but after Jeff Bennett installed the MPD low-profile jet drive intake into the bottom and then blueprinted the keel, the Eliminator crew scaled it at 600 lbs. The weigh is really good considering there's no exotic materials here-no carbon fiber, no kevlar etc. If the Kokopelli trailer looks unfinished that's because it is; in order to accommodate my schedule the trailer was quickly put together and I'll finish it at home. I towed it 2100-plus miles with zero issues. It rides on 205/50/10 DOT golf cart tires with torsion axles. Eventually, when i find the right size enclosed trailer, it will ride inside of that instead of being out in the elements. The boat will have a jet drive built to handle 2000ish horsepower. I'll show you all the powerplant once its mocked up inside the boat. The rigging will happen in my home garage with videos to follow on my YouTube channel, Finnegan's Garage. I'd be glad to answer any other questions you guys have. thanks for the interest in the project.
we'll be there either with the 21 or the placecraft. hell, if i can find the right trailer i'll bring both of them with me. been waiting for this river trip to happen for years. lol.@cyclone Strong work Mike!
What does this mean in regards to 4th of July between BR and LL this year? Boat less or will the 21 be ready that quickly?
Looking forward to watching this project come together and maybe picking up some ideas/inspiration/motivation for my project
we'll be there either with the 21 or the placecraft. hell, if i can find the right trailer i'll bring both of them with me. been waiting for this river trip to happen for years. lol.
man i'm trying to fit the standups, too. lolmake sure you get a trailer that has room for the standups as well! BR is back open
A lot of us have been waiting for a look at the Placecraft, or the Daytona! I’ll be a LL Fourth of July for sure!we'll be there either with the 21 or the placecraft. hell, if i can find the right trailer i'll bring both of them with me. been waiting for this river trip to happen for years. lol.
man i'm trying to fit the standups, too. lol
Just gave your number to another buddy looking to get into a fun deck
I would guess you could fabricate an overhead rack and hoist, maybe similar to a 4 post lift.man i'm trying to fit the standups, too. lol
we'll be there either with the 21 or the placecraft. hell, if i can find the right trailer i'll bring both of them with me. been waiting for this river trip to happen for years. lol.
I would guess you could fabricate an overhead rack and hoist, maybe similar to a 4 post lift.
When it isn't filthy from the 2000 mile road trip, and when I"m home to unwrap and film it, and when the video is ready...patience, grasshoppa, patience. Ol RD kinda jumped the gun by posting this thread.
The 21 lavecraft belonged to the parents. They sold it a few years ago.Whatever happened to that white ultra / 21’ cruiser looking boat that was in the garage in a few of your videos? Long gone?
If you are interested in having Eliminator build you a 21’ Daytona give me a call.
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The 21 lavecraft belonged to the parents. They sold it a few years ago.
I think when you get into the 120K for a basic build most of the average people go a different direction
When it isn't filthy from the 2000 mile road trip, and when I"m home to unwrap and film it, and when the video is ready...patience, grasshoppa, patience. Ol RD kinda jumped the gun by posting this thread.
Wow, not going to sell many with that strategy.
When it isn't filthy from the 2000 mile road trip, and when I"m home to unwrap and film it, and when the video is ready...patience, grasshoppa, patience. Ol RD kinda jumped the gun by posting this thread.
I agree and have been really kicking it around - Back to my point is I think that's why you aren't seeing any 21 or 22 Daytona's being built. I really wanted the Black 21 FC it just wasn't the right time.You can get a brand new Maxed Out Marine / 21 FC with a 300 for 85...
Yes, agreed. But margin is relative to volume.That is the point. They would rather put in 10% more labor and build a $300K speedster they make way more margin on.
Yes, agreed. But margin is relative to volume.
If they have a backlog big enough, then they will chase the highest margin they can get.
Don’t you have a Howard 288? Are you related to Bob Leach?
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Yes, agreed. But margin is relative to volume.
If they have a backlog big enough, then they will chase the highest margin they can get.
There's a long list of folks I need to thank for making this happen including yourself and your friends for getting the trailer moved. And here's some answers to everyones questions:
Riverdave connected me with Jake at Eliminator last year because i wanted a fast family boat that i could do some drag racing with and so I bought a bare 21' Daytona hull, taking delivery last week. Eliminator and specifically Gelcoater (Larry) and Jose went above and beyond on the gel and lamination. For a hand-laminated hull, its remarkably clean inside and I wouldn't change a thing. I have yet to weigh it myself but after Jeff Bennett installed the MPD low-profile jet drive intake into the bottom and then blueprinted the keel, the Eliminator crew scaled it at 600 lbs. The weigh is really good considering there's no exotic materials here-no carbon fiber, no kevlar etc. If the Kokopelli trailer looks unfinished that's because it is; in order to accommodate my schedule the trailer was quickly put together and I'll finish it at home. I towed it 2100-plus miles with zero issues. It rides on 205/50/10 DOT golf cart tires with torsion axles. Eventually, when i find the right size enclosed trailer, it will ride inside of that instead of being out in the elements. The boat will have a jet drive built to handle 2000ish horsepower. I'll show you all the powerplant once its mocked up inside the boat. The rigging will happen in my home garage with videos to follow on my YouTube channel, Finnegan's Garage. I'd be glad to answer any other questions you guys have. thanks for the interest in the project.
Yep.
They have all the volume they need right now which is why the small stuff is so expensive from the "big brands" these days.
A small hull bought bare is probably fairly reasonable, as that is where most of the difference is in labor and materials is between a 21 and a 27+ foot boat, aside from the power plant(s) which are basically the same cost to rig in either boat if single engine.
Time and material is time and materials I suppose. Wonder what a larger speedster hull bare would be? Probably astronomical to support a $300k sales price.I’ve been quoted a bare hull 21’. Let’s just say they command a stout price with a single color. The price didn’t scare me away yet but it wasn’t hard to understand why a full build is well north of $125k +.
Time and material is time and materials I suppose. Wonder what a larger speedster hull bare would be? Probably astronomical to support a $300k sales price.
After the hull, any "custom" single engine boat is about the same labor to produce. Think of a single engine 27 vs a single engine 21. Yea the 27 is more effort to rig and build, but not a lot more. Much of the work done and materials are identical after the hull is built.
And when you jack up the prices of your top line models, it drags up the prices of ALL the other boats models in your lineup.
A MOM 21 cruiser is $85... Slap and Eliminator sticker on it, it would be $140.