Magic Deck Boat Help Needed

[hd100ci]

I know this topic has been discussed hundreds of times over however, still would appreciate some expert knowledge. I am considering purchasing a 2007 Magic Deck Boat, 496HO, Bravo 3, 400 hrs. I know I've read about the mass production years, when Magic started having problems, and LBYS. The boat is registered as a "N American Sleek." Should that raise any red flags? I'm not sure what the titles showed when they were built meaning were the earlier ones registered as "Magic Powerboat"? When they went to LBYS did they have a different manufacturer on the title? Any help with this and areas to watch out for during an inspection is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

 

[mjc]

no the hull id's are NAS for north american sleek, they were the manufacture of them. Sleek started magic boats.

 

[Steve-o]

2007- I believe this was probably rigged at magic.... if I remember right it was mainly 2008’s and 2009’s that we’re auctioned off and rigging may be questionable.
The bravo 3 I heard gets you on plane easier which would be a nice feature but more $$ to fix.
Areas to look for- you will find some gel coat cracking by the rear step up to the swim step next to the engine hatch. Almost all have it. Also some cracking under the front plastic bow platform. There is a brace under it that will probably have gel cracks where it is mounted.
The trailers I have found pretty much suck- rust from inadequate drains in the tubing and brakes rarely work.
I would get the drive pulled and inspected as well as a compression check on the motor. We did this and have 750 hours on our 496ho in our magic.
If you look at it and find anything questionable then let us know

 

[Pivot]

2007 is fine.
there will be cracks around the rear steps. cracks where the front platform bolts to the sponsons.
All typical, no big deal.
The trailer will have broken welds near the front, where the 2" tube connects to the 6"x 2" tube. No big deal, its repairable.
The rubber trim around the hatches will be needed replacement most likely, simple fix.
It should run about 72mph with light load.
You will notice some flex in the hull. There will be soot stains under the swim step.

 

[milkmoney]

I will save you 1k post here. Best boat you can buy, I think it will be perfect for you , no reason to look at other boats
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[Englewood]

496 isnt enough.

 

[Bigbore500r]

496 isnt enough.

That means 99% of magic decks on the water don't have enough!

 

[Rajobigguy]

LBYS ??????

 

[Hydroman55]

496 isnt enough.

Agreed if want to cruise in the 60s the 496 is not the right package. Ask around about the 496 you will find their a little probmatic compared to other Merc stuff 502 mag for example.

 

[HB2Havasu]

That means 99% of magic decks on the water don't have enough!

Bingo!

 

[Englewood]

That means 99% of magic decks on the water don't have enough!

I have a 525 and with a big group of people on board it has a hard time coming on plane. That is a rare scenario but it has happened.

 

[Pivot]

I have a 525 and with a big group of people on board it has a hard time coming on plane. That is a rare scenario but it has happened.

huh? theres something not right then. I had a 496HO. NO issues planing at all with a full load. Its wont roll over right away but its not a problem.
496HO is the preferred set up, cost of ownership, insurance, reliability

 

[Englewood]

huh? theres something not right then. I had a 496HO. NO issues planing at all with a full load. Its wont roll over right away but its not a problem.
496HO is the preferred set up, cost of ownership, insurance, reliability

It came on plane just took a while. Everyone I spoke to said that 10+ people on a Magic deck with a 496 takes forever to plane.

 

[Pivot]

It came on plane just took a while. Everyone I spoke to said that 10+ people on a Magic deck with a 496 takes forever to plane.

10 plus!!! That sounds horrible on a boat. Im thinking like 6 is max. Its gets crowded quick

 

[Maw]

LBYS ??????

Long Beach Yacht Sales

 

[Englewood]

10 plus!!! That sounds horrible on a boat. Im thinking like 6 is max. Its gets crowded quick

I agree...It's usually a 10pm bar trip to Fox's and people keep jumping in.

Normal group of 6 or less and it planes no problem.

 

[Sunset]

I know this topic has been discussed hundreds of times over however, still would appreciate some expert knowledge. I am considering purchasing a 2007 Magic Deck Boat, 496HO, Bravo 3, 400 hrs. I know I've read about the mass production years, when Magic started having problems, and LBYS. The boat is registered as a "N American Sleek." Should that raise any red flags? I'm not sure what the titles showed when they were built meaning were the earlier ones registered as "Magic Powerboat"? When they went to LBYS did they have a different manufacturer on the title? Any help with this and areas to watch out for during an inspection is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Any pictures ? Where is boat located? I was working at magic in corona where we had a lot of pre made up inventory that went to LBYS.
The owner of Flat tops Marine was in charge of rigging at magic at that time .

 

[2FORCEFULL]

That means 99% of magic decks on the water don't have enough!

correct,.. 63 mph boat

1. Propeller Pitch 22....22
2. Gear Ratio 1.5 ...1.5
3. Engine RPM 5300....5000
4. Actual Speed (MPH) 66 ….63
5. Propeller Slip 10….10 with 15% slip....63 mph

 

[Steve-o]

My 496ho get on plane fine with 8 or less people. We did 12 once and it took a little to get on plane but that’s once in a blue moon we ever have that many people. I wouldn’t stick to not buying a 496 when it costs you 10 extra seconds to get on plane with 12 people on it.... idk that’s just me

 

[Steve-o]

Also, I believe that’s why the boat has a bravo 3... tow tubers and skiers and get on plane with a lot of people

 

[mjc]

correct,.. 63 mph boat

1. Propeller Pitch 22....22
2. Gear Ratio 1.5 ...1.5
3. Engine RPM 5300....5000
4. Actual Speed (MPH) 66 ….63
5. Propeller Slip 10….10 with 15% slip....63 mph

that is part of the problem they put 24 pitch on them and they should have a 22. I changed to 22 per Teague and boat planes much better.

 

[JB in so cal]

Agreed if want to cruise in the 60s the 496 is not the right package. Ask around about the 496 you will find their a little probmatic compared to other Merc stuff 502 mag for example.

ask me. 475 problem free hours so far.

 

[Pivot]

ask me. 475 problem free hours so far.

475? Geez

 

[JB in so cal]

475? Geez

Fired up on Sunday !one i

475? Geez

Less per the computer but Clu left the key on during very first service and the Hobbs meter ran overnight or something...

 

[Wmc]

I've did 17 people a few times. It didn't get on plane quick but it did

 

[TCHB]

Long Beach Yacht Sales

The guys right behind the plant were handling a lot of the partially built boats. They are on the corner of PCH and 2nd street.

 

[DWC]

If the 496 and drive have been maintained you’re in great shape. The gel cracks and seals are an easy fix. The trailer rust is easy also. Adrenaline (or any local shop) have done a ton of them. If you’re going to have 2-4 people and reasonable loads it’ll come on plane with no problem. Big parties and everything including a full sink, you’ll need a prop change or tabs if you’re self conscious. Nothing a few S turns and load shift won’t solve either. Leave it stock and enjoy another 400+hours

 

[rrrr]

Bravo IIIs behind a stock 496 are bulletproof, and it's absolutely the drive to have for a deck boat with 375 HP that'll be hauling several people and their stuff.

Be the first realistic boater in history, and buy a boat that does an honest 62 MPH with a full load, gets on plane easily, hauls whatever you put in it, will pull three or four kids on a Big Mable, and won't break down three times every summer. You'll be happy with it, and it won't empty your wallet.

 

[rrrr]

Ask around about the 496 you will find their a little probmatic compared to other Merc stuff 502 mag for example.

In what way? I've heard a bunch more complaints about the 502 Mag MPI than the 496.

 

[hd100ci]

I appreciate everyone's responses and knowledge. Thank you.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I wanna say this for those that don't know... 496 ho is 425hp...they are bitchen motors , but not a good platform for adding hp to them...I did an exhaust change and fuel management for some more ponys… turned out well, but that's where i'd stop....sues boat ,I went with the 525, and to do over I'd go to the 496,.. the 496 is a quarter arm stroked 454... pretty much bullet proof and will do everything you want, also they are plug, play ,and leave it alone.... the 525 as part of the maintanace needs to have the heads off and valve train replaced... it's a big bore motor...that and the header issues...the only one that really like going 80 plus in a deck is the driver...like I said before, i'd like to be able to detune the cheetah.. but whats nice is it's not working at all cruising 60mph, and thats fast enough for a family and friends deck boat.... kinda like doing 100 mph in a van with it loaded with friends and family.... shit happens.. and it get real bad real quick..

as for the magic,.. it's a big heavy boat with a small running surface, and the first thing when doing any changes is you figure out what you are gonna do with it,.. if trying to out run sues cheetah, you need to have a 600 hp to stay along side..and with that it will be slow to plane.... her boat will spin a 29p to rev..but with that set up it suffers every where but wot,... we don't use it that way so I run a smaller prop..


on the magic... they work well with the sponson tabs in the knoches , and I think they would work bitchen with the fixed tunnel tabs like stokers have..i did them on my 29' force with great results..run marvel with each oil change and it will go over 1000 hrs trouble free,for every one that has a problem with the 496,... there are thousands that don't have any...if I was buying a magic.... the 496 ho is the one I would buy.... but, i'd be very happy with a 63 mph deck boat, the one I have now is 52 ,53, everybody else is happy but me... where as with the 525, i'm the only one happy...having a family deck boat is where all the fun is...

 

[2FORCEFULL]

If the 496 and drive have been maintained you’re in great shape. The gel cracks and seals are an easy fix. The trailer rust is easy also. Adrenaline (or any local shop) have done a ton of them. If you’re going to have 2-4 people and reasonable loads it’ll come on plane with no problem. Big parties and everything including a full sink, you’ll need a prop change or tabs if you’re self conscious. Nothing a few S turns and load shift won’t solve either. Leave it stock and enjoy another 400+hours

Good post, how a boat is loaded is key,...I seen a boat, conquest with a 525, loaded every thing in the back and it wouldn't get on plane, wife had to walk up front when it took off or it wouldn't go...