Looking for a 21’ TPR/Ultra deck boat jet for sale

[Boat 405]

Anyone?

 

[white tortilla]

mee too ;(

 

[Boat 405]

Do you know who has the molds now?

 

[gqchris]

I have been looking for one of those ever since I got into boating. LOL

 

[white tortilla]

John West last had them last year i heard and would lease it out but they are hammered from weather and no maintenance. My friend popped one out in 2018 and he said ton of body work after to get it straight.

 

[attitude]

I believe Tahiti does

 

[Boat 405]

John West last had them last year i heard and would lease it out but they are hammered from weather and no maintenance. My friend popped one out in 2018 and he said ton of body work after to get it straight.

shit...

 

[DoughBallin14]

I believe Tahiti does
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Last i think i saw Todd Tahiti was done with them and they are back with ultra now. Dont quote me on that one.

 

[Carlson-jet]

2001 Tom Papp Racing Mirage Deck Boat Jet BBC 21 ft same hull as Ultra Shadow 21 in Menifee, CA

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[attitude]

Last i think i saw Todd Tahiti was done with them and they are back with ultra now. Dont quote me on that one.

I think he recently built one last one but money talks.

 

[Justsomeguy]

I believe GS marine(Greg Shomaker) has the TPS21 hull now.

Correction. Confirmed with cale they have the 19 TPR hull.

 

[78Southwind]

John West last had them last year i heard and would lease it out but they are hammered from weather and no maintenance. My friend popped one out in 2018 and he said ton of body work after to get it straight.

Are you talking about the capped white one? Post some pictures if you have some.

 

[wzuber]

Isn't Renegade boats a splash of the tpr? Maybe only a 19' tho? I think they'r next door to Marine Industries West?
Maybe Joel (Genesis) or Stan (carrerra) out n Hemet is storing a splash or the actual piece?

 

[blue wonder]

Call me Kjell, I can shed some light on the situation

 

[Backlash]

Blue Wonder, are you shedding light on the 21 or the 19? Not that I'm in the market for a boat, but is it true that GS has access to the 19' molds??? Just curious is all.

 

[Boat 405]

Blue Wonder, are you shedding light on the 21 or the 19? Not that I'm in the market for a boat, but is it true that GS has access to the 19' molds??? Just curious is all.

Yes he has the 19’ molds. I own a 2008 GS Daytona laid up by GS. Extensive work was done to fix and make the 19’ Daytona molds awesome by Jeff Bennett and GS. He also has the 19’ TPR molds.

 

[Goodtime$]

Mold is like a shopping cart left to die in an alley way. Still produces for the blythe bros who know.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

Molds are like young girls with major issues, they get passed around like nothing else. I'm pretty sure Tahiti has them and will be more than happy to pop one for you. I haven't heard any negativity from those guys at all which says a ton.

 

[Boat 405]

Molds are like young girls with major issues, they get passed around like nothing else. I'm pretty sure Tahiti has them and will be more than happy to pop one for you. I haven't heard any negativity from those guys at all which says a ton.

Oh, I know they have the mold. The problem is that it is in terrible shape and not worth the effort to lay a boat up in until the mold is fixed. The amount of work required to fix it after the fact is the problem.

 

[Tireman]

CHECK MY AVATAR.... ill see if i can find some pics...ill sell it...

 

[Tireman]

edit*** sorry not a jet
here are a few from when i picked her up
100% new
interior
stereo
bimini
fuel system- including tanks

 

[Goodtime$]

Oh, I know they have the mold. The problem is that it is in terrible shape and not worth the effort to lay a boat up in until the mold is fixed. The amount of work required to fix it after the fact is the problem.

It just business is growing. To build a 21 DECK the Tahiti way, which is capped bow stern and good pump stuff. The hull takes an additional 4-5 weeks in repair and capping. In that time it will cost me a 21 skier and or 23 deck bare hull in lamination time.
We do not have 3-5 repair guys on staff obviously, so we have to pick and choose projects as they come.

When we raised the prices, the demand went away. 23 decks we have a back log and the calls never stop.
Jet - Outboard - IO

21 Decks are my favorite river boat, but making a new mold is not in the financial cards unless dudes step up and the back log grows.

Hope that helps clear it up.

 

[MK1MOD0]

Great looking boats. I’ve said for a long time, those just might be the perfect boat for the Lower river. And by lower , I mean LOWER ( Yuma ) river. Shallow and lots of sand bars .

 

[Goodtime$]

most went to yuma, blythe and my stretch of blythe big river area. The orange one went to willow valley lake mead area which i had no clue about the jet boats up there.

 

[rivrrts429]

It just business is growing. To build a 21 DECK the Tahiti way, which is capped bow stern and good pump stuff. The hull takes an additional 4-5 weeks in repair and capping. In that time it will cost me a 21 skier and or 23 deck bare hull in lamination time.
We do not have 3-5 repair guys on staff obviously, so we have to pick and choose projects as they come.

When we raised the prices, the demand went away. 23 decks we have a back log and the calls never stop.
Jet - Outboard - IO

21 Decks are my favorite river boat, but making a new mold is not in the financial cards unless dudes step up and the back log grows.

Hope that helps clear it up.
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I think the 21’ is a much better looking boat than the 22’/23’. A new mold would likely net you the backlog you never saw coming.

I hope at some point it becomes realistic financially for you to tool a new mold from it.

 

[Boat 405]

It just business is growing. To build a 21 DECK the Tahiti way, which is capped bow stern and good pump stuff. The hull takes an additional 4-5 weeks in repair and capping. In that time it will cost me a 21 skier and or 23 deck bare hull in lamination time.
We do not have 3-5 repair guys on staff obviously, so we have to pick and choose projects as they come.

When we raised the prices, the demand went away. 23 decks we have a back log and the calls never stop.
Jet - Outboard - IO

21 Decks are my favorite river boat, but making a new mold is not in the financial cards unless dudes step up and the back log grows.

Hope that helps clear it up.
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Thanks for the info. I messaged you yesterday on the 21' on IG. I think the 23 will be in the cards for me.

 

[Backlash]

As stated above, "....4-5 weeks for repairs and capping....and we have 3-5 guys on staff."

I'm no mathematician but that seems like a long time for "Capping and repairs" with 3-5 guys working on a single boat. I'm sure you have them working on other things throughout the day, but that seems like a LOT of time.

It honestly may be worth it to take a deep breath and start working towards repairing the mold or starting to build a new mold. It's your business and you know how to manage things, but if the hulls came out of the mold only needing the optional cap work, you could be laying up more boats per year thus making more money in the long run.

Good luck and thanks for the updates!

 

[StevieHops]

As stated above, "....4-5 weeks for repairs and capping....and we have 3-5 guys on staff."

I'm no mathematician but that seems like a long time for "Capping and repairs" with 3-5 guys working on a single boat. I'm sure you have them working on other things throughout the day, but that seems like a LOT of time.

It honestly may be worth it to take a deep breath and start working towards repairing the mold or starting to build a new mold. It's your business and you know how to manage things, but if the hulls came out of the mold only needing the optional cap work, you could be laying up more boats per year thus making more money in the long run.

Good luck and thanks for the updates!

he does not have 3-5 guys

 

[Backlash]

he does not have 3-5 guys

Apparently I cant read either!

My mistake. I still think he should fix the molds.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

I think the 21’ is a much better looking boat than the 22’/23’. A new mold would likely net you the backlog you never saw coming.

I hope at some point it becomes realistic financially for you to tool a new mold from it.

I've been thinking this for a long time.

 

[Goodtime$]

I've been thinking this for a long time.

Look guys I’m a bigger fan than all of you. I lost money in most of them just trying to make them perfect. I don’t have dcb Nordic bank roll. I’m a boat dude

If I make a new mold for the 21 deck.
How many buyers will come?
The price will be higher to recover the tooling costs

No bullshit no tire kickers
How many people want a low profile 21’ jet deck for $80k with a carb approved LSA engine only or outboard

Thin dude. I done see it
I’ll continue to cap them and do our best

 

[toto]

It just business is growing. To build a 21 DECK the Tahiti way, which is capped bow stern and good pump stuff. The hull takes an additional 4-5 weeks in repair and capping. In that time it will cost me a 21 skier and or 23 deck bare hull in lamination time.
We do not have 3-5 repair guys on staff obviously, so we have to pick and choose projects as they come.

When we raised the prices, the demand went away. 23 decks we have a back log and the calls never stop.
Jet - Outboard - IO

21 Decks are my favorite river boat, but making a new mold is not in the financial cards unless dudes step up and the back log grows.

Hope that helps clear it up.
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How did the one with the 300 do. I have always heard that these didn't like the outboards as they were tooled more towards the jet application

 

[Goodtime$]

How did the one with the 300 do. I have always heard that these didn't like the outboards as they were tooled more towards the jet application

It’s a super fun boat. Kinda hits a wall at 80 with the 300xs

Customer has thrown the book at it
DBR 300xs tune, Shaun torrente rAcing jackplate, we moved the fuel tanks Aft

Always searching for more speed. I don’t know if the hull can handle the heavier outboards 300r and 400r

 

[rivrrts429]

Look guys I’m a bigger fan than all of you. I lost money in most of them just trying to make them perfect. I don’t have dcb Nordic bank roll. I’m a boat dude

If I make a new mold for the 21 deck.
How many buyers will come?
The price will be higher to recover the tooling costs

No bullshit no tire kickers
How many people want a low profile 21’ jet deck for $80k with a carb approved LSA engine only or outboard

Thin dude. I done see it
I’ll continue to cap them and do our best
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I don’t disagree with you but you can’t argue the optics. The 21’ is a much better looking lower river boat. Love them both.

The 23’ I’ll fuck around with and go have drinks but the 21’ I’ll marry lol

 

[Backlash]

^^ That's EXACTLY how I feel about the TPR 19.

 

[Goodtime$]

 

[Backlash]

GT, what hull is that sitting over to the left in that picture?

 

[Goodtime$]

GT, what hull is that sitting over to the left in that picture?

An old flatly restoration for a needles area heavy hitter

 

[Backlash]

Right on!