LA new electric fire truck

[beerrun]

Idk how to link the video can someone help

 

[beerrun]

New electric fire truck when the batteries get to 20% you guessed it an on board diesel generator kicks in to recharge the battery. Can't make this shit up but we have to go to all electric

 

[pavski2]

 

[DLow]

Just like electric buses and soon semis. They will become very common over the next decade. Completely ridiculous, but thank the voters.

 

[beerrun]

Just like electric buses and soon semis. They will become very common over the next decade. Completely ridiculous, but thank the voters.

Yes I agree but what kills me is the fire truck has to have an on board generator for when the battery gets too low

 

[Gelcoater]

Yes I agree but what kills me is the fire truck has to have an on board generator for when the battery gets too low

Someone might want to let the chief know that

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Can the truck operate while charging? Basically, is the genetic large enough to produce enough electricity to operate the entire rig at max demand? Cause if it can't do that, what the hell is the point of it at all?

 

[timstoy]

Yes I agree but what kills me is the fire truck has to have an on board generator for when the battery gets too low

This is misleading the public. It is not all electric it’s a Hybrid. Just like all Hybrids they are not all electric!

 

[BIGRED9158]

Yeah what about when a structure fire happens and your running the pump at full speed

 

[Gelcoater]

Can the truck operate while charging? Basically, is the genetic large enough to produce enough electricity to operate the entire rig at max demand? Cause if it can't do that, what the hell is the point of it at all?

Is a mute point.
Volvo Penta batteries and a BMW Diesel engine.
It’ll be in the shop more than it’s out doing its job.

 

[beerrun]

This

 

[240Hallett]

Can the truck operate while charging? Basically, is the genetic large enough to produce enough electricity to operate the entire rig at max demand? Cause if it can't do that, what the hell is the point of it at all?

Point is…Virtue signaling.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Is a mute point.
Volvo Penta batteries and a BMW Diesel engine.
It’ll be in the shop more than it’s out doing its job.

Haha!! Good point!

Point is…Virtue signaling.

Oh absolutely! I'm just trying to gage this trucks probable effects on public safety.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

Sounds like a similar operation to a diesel-electric locomotive.

 

[charred1]

Just ridiculous! Not sure if that rig is even in-service yet. During its debut back in May, the water tank ruptured.

The EPA and CARB have been ruining rigs in the fire service for years now. The fire truck I work on has had many smog related issues. Mainly Regen issues. It’s only a matter of time before SDFD gets one of these stupid rigs.

 

[2Driver]

Point is…Virtue signaling.

Yep and it doesn’t have to make any monetary sense what so ever because its charged off to the LA tax payers.

 

[Longring]

It’s already been in the shop for a list of items.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Sounds like a similar operation to a diesel-electric locomotive.

That’s going to be the solution for your HD trucks (Ram/Chevy/Ford). They will be diesel electric to charge or probably while towing but otherwise run electric for as long as they can (ie not towing or just around town).

They will still carry batteries unlike DE Locomotives so they can be considered hybrids and get the EV rebates.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yes I agree but what kills me is the fire truck has to have an on board generator for when the battery gets too low

Every electric truck will have to. You aren’t going to recharge a semi every 100 miles with an extension cord.

 

[Rsqfxr]

was wondering when this was gonna come up on here

 

[Rsqfxr]

Just ridiculous! Not sure if that rig is even in-service yet. During its debut back in May, the water tank ruptured.

The EPA and CARB have been ruining rigs in the fire service for years now. The fire truck I work on has had many smog related issues. Mainly Regen issues. It’s only a matter of time before SDFD gets one of these stupid rigs

this is day 5 of it being in service

 

[Rsqfxr]

Yes I agree but what kills me is the fire truck has to have an on board generator for when the battery gets too low

or we can put charging stations at every fire

 

[pronstar]

That’s going to be the solution for your HD trucks (Ram/Chevy/Ford). They will be diesel electric to charge or probably while towing but otherwise run electric for as long as they can (ie not towing or just around town).

They will still carry batteries unlike DE Locomotives so they can be considered hybrids and get the EV rebates.

I’ll take the opposing POV…I think it’s waaaay more efficient to have the diesel motor to mechanically move the vehicle. Too much conversion loss otherwise.

So I don’t think we will see series hybrids (like a locomotive) in over-the-road vehicles.

I guess we will have to wait and see

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

I’ll take the opposing POV…I think it’s waaaay more efficient to have the diesel motor to mechanically move the vehicle. Too much conversion loss otherwise.

So I don’t think we will see series hybrids (like a locomotive) in over-the-road vehicles.

I guess we will have to wait and see

I would think if you put electric motors on an HD truck at each wheel and then energized them with a diesel generator your towing capacity of the vehicle would either double or be restricted by the weight carrying capacity of the axles and hitch and tires that they could install on a regular light duty truck without turning it into a semi. And it would be more efficient and better performing than running on the diesel direct connected to the drive train. Removes the need for a transmission, all the diffs and all the axles and driveshafts making the truck more reliable as well.

Those DE locomotives have some serious tractive force and their biggest problem is getting the friction on the track to apply it. Now they inject sand on the rail to increase the friction under the wheel to reduce slippage.

We will see!

 

[DLC]

or we can put charging stations at every fire

We can just add a charging station next to every fire hydrant….

what can go wrong!

 

[JayBreww]

or we can put charging stations at every fire

Catch the hydrant and charger.

 

[Rogers Hopeful]

I would think if you put electric motors on an HD truck at each wheel and then energized them with a diesel generator your towing capacity of the vehicle would either double or be restricted by the weight carrying capacity of the axles and hitch and tires that they could install on a regular light duty truck without turning it into a semi. And it would be more efficient and better performing than running on the diesel direct connected to the drive train. Removes the need for a transmission, all the diffs and all the axles and driveshafts making the truck more reliable as well.

Those DE locomotives have some serious tractive force and their biggest problem is getting the friction on the track to apply it. Now they inject sand on the rail to increase the friction under the wheel to reduce slippage.

We will see!

Each traction motor has a differential in it. Tractive effort is like 30,000 lbf.

 

[4Waters]

was wondering when this was gonna come up on here

I brought it up a couple of weeks ago when someone posted the above dispatcher meme

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Each traction motor has a differential in it. Tractive effort is like 30,000 lbf.

It's one motor per axle right?

All I know is there is no way you'd be able to pull that much weight up the Cajon pass with their diesel engine directly coupled to the drive wheels. Not a snowball's chance in hell.

 

[Longring]

was wondering when this was gonna come up on here

@Rsqfxr knows all about this rig!

 

[Rogers Hopeful]

Engine makes 4000+ HP. Each axle has a traction motor. I want to say tractive effort to start movement can go up to 40,000-50,000 ftlb

 

[scottchbrite]

I heard Euro Helmets were mandatory for that abomination

 

[HB2Havasu]

New electric fire truck when the batteries get to 20% you guessed it an on board diesel generator kicks in to recharge the battery. Can't make this shit up but we have to go to all electric

From what I'm hearing the new Dodge Ram Electric Truck will utilize this same backup generator method. Really think all electric vehicles should be setup this way until battery life can be extended way beyond current mileage, and the electric grid infrastructure is robust enough to charge 200 Million Vehicles. Neither are close to being ready to go full blown EV!

 

[DWC]

Glad our firefighters are going to breathe clean air on the way to fires Pure genius.

 

[JayBreww]

Glad our firefighters are going to breathe clean air on the way to fires Pure genius.

Thanks for your support

 

[PRIMO]

 

[PRIMO]

Looks like this beauty failed the acceptance test / ruptured water tank….

 

[4Waters]

Looks like this beauty failed the acceptance test / ruptured water tank….

Gotta pass probation before you get the bucket

 

[DWC]

Thanks for your support

Anytime. When i need help i want the fastest damn truck with the best person to do the job. Equity and clean energy can suck it. Dr. House showing up in this works.

 

[rrrr]

Engine makes 4000+ HP. Each axle has a traction motor. I want to say tractive effort to start movement can go up to 40,000-50,000 ftlb

You're speaking of a diesel/electric locomotive, right?

 

[Rogers Hopeful]

You're speaking of a diesel/electric locomotive, right?

Yes

 

[Flying_Lavey]

From what I'm hearing the new Dodge Ram Electric Truck will utilize this same backup generator method. Really think all electric vehicles should be setup this way until battery life can be extended way beyond current mileage, and the electric grid infrastructure is robust enough to charge 200 Million Vehicles. Neither are close to being ready to go full blown EV!

Ever since the Volt came out with the Mostly series hybrid design, I have thought that was the best approach. A plug-in series hybrid, even better.

 

[River Dirt 2]

Ever since the Volt came out with the Mostly series hybrid design, I have thought that was the best approach. A plug-in series hybrid, even better.

We’ve had a Volt since 18, great car, kinda best of both worlds if you need carpool lane access, etc. must have been why GM discontinued it…….fucking idiots

 

[1tonfun]

So using lib logic, I already drive a hybrid. I have a diesel running a generator to charge a battery? Can I use the HOV lane now