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I used to weld a lot of these impellers before Covid hit. There are used in Canada, New Zealand, and United States in River racing. I believe the boats are aluminum hulls. These guys will hit 131 mph going upstream. Sometimes the water is shallow as 1 foot. These impellers are made of steel and get damaged severely during racing. They suck up sand, rocks, tree branches etc. The center veins is a separate peace from the outer ring. Before the welding is done, the veins are hand chamfered with a 1/8 inch edge break to give the weld a lot deeper penetration. I weld both sides of the veins and from the side you can see the heat trail. The welding rod is real soft to allow the veins to flex without cracking the weld. After the welding is done, the impeller goes back into the lathe and gets skimmed in the area where the magic marker drew a line to get the impeller around again for a good seal. Depending on the horsepower, that area gets skimmed down more to allow more flexing without ripping the seal out. The more horsepower, the bigger the gap. This is not a pretty, tiny precision weld. This weld has to have a lot of filler rod put in and I’ve got the pedal down on my 350 amp TIG welder and I’m using about 260 of those amps. The filler rod is 1/8 inch diameter and it flows into that valley really fast.
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BADASS!!!!

I have a "cool" jet boat project going right now that I hope to complete before end of April. I am going to run it for a couple seasons, and then I will sell it, and my goal is to buy a turbine powered jet boat that I am guessing these are going in! Are you in the states or ?
 

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If I was younger, I would be a white water racer. Started going to Riggins Idaho in April to spectate and it is now a yearly tradition.
 

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BADASS!!!!

I have a "cool" jet boat project going right now that I hope to complete before end of April. I am going to run it for a couple seasons, and then I will sell it, and my goal is to buy a turbine powered jet boat that I am guessing these are going in! Are you in the states or ?
La Habra, Ca.
 

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Very cool, are you machining the center veins from solid? Thats a lotta chips...

What is this "soft" filler you speak of? and don't tell me its coat hanger, those are hard to find in 1/8".
 

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Very cool, are you machining the center veins from solid? Thats a lotta chips...

What is this "soft" filler you speak of? and don't tell me its coat hanger, those are hard to find in 1/8".
Both pieces are from solid. I am just the welder on this job. The machining is done by a good friend of mine who is a cnc wizard. 4th axis and lathe.

The welding wire is kind of top-secret shit. Back in my RC engineering days, I would weld extensions on the end of crankshafts to drive the blowers on the drag bikes. We were using high tensile TIG rod but the welds were cracking after several runs. We found out that if we went to a softer rod that problem went away. If you really wanna know what it is, maybe I can send you some in a brown paper bag with the ends snipped off. To pick up the delivery of welding rod, you’ll have to meet some scroungy guy in a dark alley behind a liquor store. Lol
 

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I just heard a rumor that these guys that race these boats use gas turbine engines. that’s crazy. I’m going to see if I can find some video of these things.
 

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Let me edit the amount of crap that these guys suck up their impellers. Sand, rocks, tree branches, and pieces of intake grate! Geeze 🤓
 
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very cool, i love tig welding jobs where you can just dump heat into it and run. by any chance is that rod your using shaped something like (=) with the middle lines even with top and bottom of the parenthesis?
 

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very cool, i love tig welding jobs where you can just dump heat into it and run. by any chance is that rod your using shaped something like (=) with the middle lines even with top and bottom of the parenthesis?
No, the rod is round.
 

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I have always wanted to and maybe someday will do a 21 foot aluminum tunnel with big horsepower. It would be fun to show up to the lower river with one
 
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