$$$$ hey- lam-$$$ bought a new pontoon

[2FORCEFULL]

My wife is not every getting off the pontoon deal,... we took the honda 250 out, ran most of the time @ 30 mph,@ 42/4300 rpms...wot it did 43 mph.. little bit of wind and up river... didn't think we would ever get to topoc.... so I bought a new coach toon, hp package with the 350hp merc,... they clain 55-58 mph...????? whats the real numbers???? is that even close????? I wanna cruise @ 40 mph,.. and not be on pin....

 

[timstoy]

I would get a couple of the new Mercury 500s. No substitute for horsepower!

 

[WildWilly]

My 300 on a 24' Avalon tops at 51 in perfect conditions. I was hoping.for.the cruise at 40 and decent gas mileage but its close to turning 5k at that point

 

[Backlash]

For sale in 3, 2, 1.......

 

[chvynhra]

The old coach for sale @2FORCEFULL ?

 

[HNL2LHC]

Pics or it did not happen.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Pics or it did not happen.

had to order it to get what I wanted, get it july 15th

 

[JFMFG]

I don’t know why you don’t just nut up for a Avalon or trifecta with 450s. Quit efffin around.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

we got the 243

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I don’t know why you don’t just nut up for a Avalon or trifecta with 450s. Quit efffin around.

cause I all ready have a big johnson...

 

[mjc]

Why didn't you just repower existing toon?

 

[2FORCEFULL]

a single engine deck boat out runs a twin outboard toon for half the cost...use your sence and save your dollars...


fixed it.. @hallett21

 

[JFMFG]

cause I all ready have a big johnson...

hahahah. Any pics of the new one. Congrats on it. Our friends have a 350 on theirs I think they cruise at about 45 but they don’t beat on it at all.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Why didn't you just repower existing toon?

cause it's a honda for starts,...I'd have to change all the way to the helm... we had a 10yr warranty, owned it for 5 yrs,... but... changing the motor voided all the warranty... next, it's only rated for 250 hp... motor would cost 32k...plus what ever to install.... so for 60k.... I get a 5 yr newer toon, with the lay out we like and the 350hp merc...

 

[2FORCEFULL]

The old coach for sale @2FORCEFULL ?

trade in

 

[Sportin' Wood]

we got the 243

Question for all the toon fans. How's the wind for the passenger when it is cold out? If I ever had a toon I feel like the wife would need a place to bundle up and stay warm on colder outings. At least a double seat at the helm. Thoughts?

 

[FlyByWire]

58 with a 350? Dang.

I got 63 max in perfect conditions with a 400 Verado, but she’s a big heavy fucker. I cruise around at 45-50 though and it seems to be the sweet spot between being wrung out and my passengers / kids getting beat the fuck up by the wind.

I was thinking about raising the motor up a hole and see what happens though.

 

[hallett21]

a single engine deck boat out runs a twin outboard for half the cost...use your sence and save your dollars...

Do tell?

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

cause it's a honda for starts,...I'd have to change all the way to the helm... we had a 10yr warranty, owned it for 5 yrs,... but... changing the motor voided all the warranty... next, it's only rated for 250 hp... motor would cost 32k...plus what ever to install.... so for 60k.... I get a 5 yr newer toon, with the lay out we like and the 350hp merc...

The new toon was $60,000 or it's $60,000 to upgrade?

 

[J DUNN]

What happened to the good ol' days of ghost riding the whip, a Hallett 270 across Mead?

This toon shit got me sleepin'

 

[LuauLounge]

My wife is not every getting off the pontoon deal,... we took the honda 250 out, ran most of the time @ 30 mph,@ 42/4300 rpms...wot it did 43 mph.. little bit of wind and up river... didn't think we would ever get to topoc.... so I bought a new coach toon, hp package with the 350hp merc,... they clain 55-58 mph...????? whats the real numbers???? is that even close????? I wanna cruise @ 40 mph,.. and not be on pin....

Have you tried a different prop?

 

[Hardly Satisfied]

For sale in 3, 2, 1.......

Exactly

 

[Dalton]

Wamo plate + detune should get you in the sweet spot

 

[TBulger]

Congrat’s Pal, not everyone can understand that some of us just like to buy things, regardless of whether we need it or will use it.

 

[Keymyster]

Congrats buddy.

 

[Ziggy]

58 with a 350? Dang.

I got 63 max in perfect conditions with a 400 Verado, but she’s a big heavy fucker. I cruise around at 45-50 though and it seems to be the sweet spot between being wrung out and my passengers / kids getting beat the fuck up by the wind.

I was thinking about raising the motor up a hole and see what happens though.

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I know I've asked you about your toon before. I'd love to see it & chat to you about it someday.

 

[PlanB]

58 with a 350? Dang.

I got 63 max in perfect conditions with a 400 Verado, but she’s a big heavy fucker. I cruise around at 45-50 though and it seems to be the sweet spot between being wrung out and my passengers / kids getting beat the fuck up by the wind.

I was thinking about raising the motor up a hole and see what happens though.

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I think your Manatou is actually one of the faster toons out there power for power. 63 with a 400 is really good.

 

[FlyByWire]

I think your Manatou is actually one of the faster toons out there power for power. 63 with a 400 is really good.

This was bimini folded up, almost no gas, and solo. LOL.

 

[FlyByWire]

I know I've asked you about your toon before. I'd love to see it & chat to you about it someday.

Absolutely. Come for a ride sometime. They handle and turn amazingly.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I think your Manatou is actually one of the faster toons out there power for power. 63 with a 400 is really good.

so 1 mile per hour per 10 hp ????, my evinrude 250 ran 50..thats 2mph per 10 hp... and best ever of 55,... the honda 250 run 43, thats 1.7 per 10 hp... the merc with that math should run 58-60 mph.... mph...sooo... the merc 350 is the lowest performing motor of all the out boards????? thats what i'm thinking with out running,,,and the evinrude is still king of the hill??? and the 400hp is the lowest performance????@1.575 per hp???? 2 mph @ 400 hp would be 80 mph....

 

[LuauLounge]

Are you still a 2 toon family?

 

[Ziggy]

Are you still a 2 toon family?

I saw he sold the other two.

 

[Ziggy]

Absolutely. Come for a ride sometime. They handle and turn amazingly.

I'll let you know when I'm in town for a while again.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Are you still a 2 toon family?

I'm not as high up in the family as my wife... I sold one and had the other sold... she said no... , I bitched the whole trip tp topoc, came back and bought her the 350 hp toon... so alls good... toons don't make mathematical sense when look at what it costs to go 50 mph,... and it gets worse as you in crease speed....you can go 50 mph in a bayliner...you just get less hey lam....toons take more power and use more fuel than fiber glass boats...and go half as fast....

 

[2FORCEFULL]

58 with a 350? Dang.

I got 63 max in perfect conditions with a 400 Verado, but she’s a big heavy fucker. I cruise around at 45-50 though and it seems to be the sweet spot between being wrung out and my passengers / kids getting beat the fuck up by the wind.

I was thinking about raising the motor up a hole and see what happens though.

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so this is 27'????? I would think you would pick up 8/10 mph taking the radar arch off...???

 

[FlyByWire]

so this is 27'????? I would think you would pick up 8/10 mph taking the radar arch off...???

25 footer.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Question for all the toon fans. How's the wind for the passenger when it is cold out? If I ever had a toon I feel like the wife would need a place to bundle up and stay warm on colder outings. At least a double seat at the helm. Thoughts?

our last toon had 2 helms with windshields.... but when is cold out you get cold no matter... when it's cold we go to the dunes....

 

[Heylam]

I'm not as high up in the family as my wife... I sold one and had the other sold... she said no... , I bitched the whole trip tp topoc, came back and bought her the 350 hp toon... so alls good... toons don't make mathematical sense when look at what it costs to go 50 mph,... and it gets worse as you in crease speed....you can go 50 mph in a bayliner...you just get less hey lam....toons take more power and use more fuel than fiber glass boats...and go half as fast....

Boating isn’t all about spped. You need to factor in comfort and fun.

 

[retaocleg]

you obviously dont register for anything more than a year......how do you get past the allowance for vehicles to be declared a dealer?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Do tell?

Every Magic deck boat with a 496 HO will do around 50 with several people on it. With more power they will do 60-65 loaded.

We are going backwards in performance, and spending 2-3x to do it.

Peak pontoon is a single 350-400 and run it.

 

[hallett21]

Every Magic deck boat with a 496 HO will do around 50 with several people on it. With more power they will do 60-65 loaded.

We are going backwards in performance, and spending 2-3x to do it.

Peak pontoon is a single 350-400 and run it.

The topic was deck boats unless we were talking toons. Twin 300rs vs a 600 Merc would be the closest comparison.

No way they’ll have the same performance for double the price.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The topic was deck boats unless we were talking toons. Twin 300rs vs a 600 Merc would be the closest comparison.

No way they’ll have the same performance for double the price.

No the twin 300s would smoke the 600 on the same boat

 

[2FORCEFULL]

you obviously dont register for anything more than a year......how do you get past the allowance for vehicles to be declared a dealer?

you obviously dont register for anything more than a year......how do you get past the allowance for vehicles to be declared a dealer?

you're obviously not talking about me,... we traded in our 2018 for a 2024 and thats the only boat we own,.....

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Do tell?

a 26' cheetah wild cat starts at 102k.... twin engine toon starts at 250k..... nuff said???

 

[rivermobster]

we got the 243

Looks comfy. Congrats!

 

[throttle]

I'm not as high up in the family as my wife... I sold one and had the other sold... she said no... , I bitched the whole trip tp topoc, came back and bought her the 350 hp toon... so alls good... toons don't make mathematical sense when look at what it costs to go 50 mph,... and it gets worse as you in crease speed....you can go 50 mph in a bayliner...you just get less hey lam....toons take more power and use more fuel than fiber glass boats...and go half as fast....

Crazy how much more simple and functional the pontoon feels tho. I never expected to be going as fast as mine actually did.

Congrats on the new COUCH.

 

[hallett21]

a 26' cheetah wild cat starts at 102k.... twin engine toon starts at 250k..... nuff said???

Didn’t realize you were comparing deck boats to pontoons.

I was saying a Nordic, Eliminator, Conquest etc single 600 I/O vs twin 300r’s is not double in cost and the outboards will usually be faster.


Either way congrats on the new purchase!

 

[RiverDave]

Every Magic deck boat with a 496 HO will do around 50 with several people on it. With more power they will do 60-65 loaded.

We are going backwards in performance, and spending 2-3x to do it.

Peak pontoon is a single 350-400 and run it.

Gotta be honest having driven quite a few of them.. I really like the twins on a pontoon better than singles. Maneuvering around the dogs.. being able to cruise with a load etc. They aren’t double the speed but those two things they do infinitely better than singles

 

[TCHB]

Gotta be honest having driven quite a few of them.. I really like the twins on a pontoon better than singles. Maneuvering around the dogs.. being able to cruise with a load etc. They aren’t double the speed but those two things they do infinitely better than singles

I agree much nicer to drive.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Didn’t realize you were comparing deck boats to pontoons.

I was saying a Nordic, Eliminator, Conquest etc single 600 I/O vs twin 300r’s is not double in cost and the outboards will usually be faster.


Either way congrats on the new purchase!

some where down the line, as soon as you say boat, the first question is how fast will it go......so that being said,.. speed is really a factor...and most don't wanna leave speed on the table, they wanna bring it with them...with the quest to make pontoons less slow. they started putting more and more power to try to put them in the performance boat category.... and change the game... pontoons are still in there own category and will never compete with a true performance boat,.. like in tractors will never compete with dragsters... so if the quest is speed VS cost pontoons aren't even in the game.....120k for a 350 hp tritoon doesn't make any mathematical sense to end up at 55 mph wot..... you can buy a deck boat for the same price that goes 75/80 mph for less.... so , for me, I have lost all desire to run up the river at 80 mph ,... people have no clue how to drive.... so we sold the deck boat and bought 2 pontoons about 5 years ago... having to be on pin all the time to run 40 sucks.....trying to load on the trailer in the wind sucks...I think of toons as ferry boats to get a load of people across the water...after spending 125k for a single engine toon,I feel like a guy driving in the rain with windshield wipers with no rubber on the blades....dumb fuc, dumb fuc dumb fuc, dumb fuc.....