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What infrastructure? Can't damage roads anymore than they are. Government dictating water. pg&e shutting down power during winds, while we have our hands on high pressure gas line valves to our friend down south shit I have one a mile from the house. ;)
 

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And then they’re gonna push through to Texas and take that by force too.

🙄🙄🙄

Could you pick a worse state to fuck with than Arizona. One of the most laxed gun ownership states in the country. Literally know someone with a vehicle mounted twin trigger browning 50 cal and thousands of rounds sitting in their garage.

😂😂😂
 

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And then they’re gonna push through to Texas and take that by force too.

🙄🙄🙄

Could you pick a worse state to fuck with than Arizona. One of the most laxed gun ownership states in the country. Literally know someone with a vehicle mounted twin trigger browning 50 cal and thousands of rounds sitting in their garage.

😂😂😂
Only one?🤣
 

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Only one?🤣

I could list all the crazy shit I’ve seen in people’s garages out there but that thing was pretty fuckin cool. 😂😂

I mean really if you think about it, I bet Arizona has the most per capita crazy gun and explosive shit over any other state. Texas would be a close second but I think Texas is more like old school traditional collection stuff.

Arizona? We’re talking like major fire power stock pile, dooms day type shit.
 
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Don't you have some stumps to go grind Tom?

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And then they’re gonna push through to Texas and take that by force too.

🙄🙄🙄

Could you pick a worse state to fuck with than Arizona. One of the most laxed gun ownership states in the country. Literally know someone with a vehicle mounted twin trigger browning 50 cal and thousands of rounds sitting in their garage.

😂😂😂
Is it a Toyota HiLux?

😁

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I guess I'll buy a few boxes of 5.56 just in case 🤪
 

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Is there still the elusive section on this site?
 

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And then they’re gonna push through to Texas and take that by force too.

🙄🙄🙄

Could you pick a worse state to fuck with than Arizona. One of the most laxed gun ownership states in the country. Literally know someone with a vehicle mounted twin trigger browning 50 cal and thousands of rounds sitting in their garage.

😂😂😂
I think Tom has been in too many social media rabbit holes. I get it though, easy to dive into for sure and plenty of holes going well left and/or right. I have to slap myself every once in a while too.😖😖
 

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Quite possibly the worst state to attempt this. You wouldn't imagine the kits these people have in this state. God speed.
 

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just think of the road rage incidents now try and invade lol.I went to an outdoor rodeo restuarant place sat to get beer while out riding the cr500 and saw they were doing a trump parade..

About a third of the people were open carrying im sure more were concealed.I felt naked not having mine with me but of course law abiding nothing to worry about
 

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just think of the road rage incidents now try and invade lol.I went to an outdoor rodeo restuarant place sat to get beer while out riding the cr500 and saw they were doing a trump parade..

About a third of the people were open carrying im sure more were concealed.I felt naked not having mine with me but of course law abiding nothing to worry about
When I first moved here, got lit up for speeding. As the LEO got to the window, I told him I had a firearm in the console. He kind of laughed. "Everyone has a gun around here. County stats say 3 in 5, we think the other 2 are just lying."
:oops: 🤣
 

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I have always believed all of this shit is going to eventually (when is the question) solved at the street level. It seems inevitable.

There are so many enemies of the USA now in the country combined with the desperate deep state wanting to stay in control. It is a friggin ticking time bomb.

Do whatever you deem appropriate. Me.....I am going to try to take care of me and mine to the best of my abilities.

As my sig has always stated "To each his own"
 

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Can they just bypass Az and destroy Los Angels, Sacramento, or San Fransisco? Asking as a concerned Californian.
 

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@DILLIGAF ,
"I am going to try to take care of me and mine to the best of my abilities."

This right here should always be at the top of the goals list. WW3, Civil War...hurricanes or blizzards. Do what we can, and how we can.
Same page! Trying to take steps to be as sufficient as possible. It takes time, planning, short term money, family and neighbor involvement with the hope it all becomes un-necessary.
 

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When I first moved here, got lit up for speeding. As the LEO got to the window, I told him I had a firearm in the console. He kind of laughed. "Everyone has a gun around here. County stats say 3 in 5, we think the other 2 are just lying."
:oops: 🤣
I believe your community has the highest % of FFL's in the entire country based on population :)
 

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I have always believed all of this shit is going to eventually (when is the question) solved at the street level. It seems inevitable.

There are so many enemies of the USA now in the country combined with the desperate deep state wanting to stay in control. It is a friggin ticking time bomb.

Do whatever you deem appropriate. Me.....I am going to try to take care of me and mine to the best of my abilities.

As my sig has always stated "To each his own"
I really don’t think I need to escalate my state of readiness . Like you I believe that someday this will all have to get settled in the streets. With that in mind I live my life appropriately prepared without having to go full on Ted Kazinsky.
 

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I really don’t think I need to escalate my state of readiness . Like you I believe that someday this will all have to get settled in the streets. With that in mind I live my life appropriately prepared without having to go full on Ted Kazinsky.
Nobody needs to go full Ted Kazinski.....he murdered people....

Like I said do what you feel you need to do for you and yours. Other than that nothing much more you can do and hope it never happens. Anybody wanting it to happen is trigger happy IMO.
 

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I was just talking about something 'similar' the other day with my Pops.
I said, "I've seen old WW II gun inplacements from Seward Alaska , to Bolsa Chica in HB, and down at Point Loma SD . . . those weren't built there for taget practice. It was just a matter of 'when' and not 'if' . . . they just chose Hawaii instead".
 

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For the record, most of RDP calls for murder in many instances. A sheriff recently murdered a judge after cornering him in his chambers and flat out executed him and many here cheered based on rumor.
Even supercop called it a murder.
Of course, it’s likely none of those peeps have ever killed someone so it’s mostly just hyperbole.

Having said that, I Love this thread.
It’s always educational to me hearing what others picture for the future.
Some of us live on acreage, some of us live in suburbia, some of live in a communist state already.
If no one minds a slight tangent to explore our mind sets,
I am curious how we as individuals picture this street fight going?
Who do you imagine will be the enemy? How do you picture your first firefight going?
What criteria will determine target identification?
Anyone approaching the perimeter?
I realize all this depends on the type of collapse, so let’s stick with “settling it on the streets”.
Are sleeper cells the enemy? Individual plants?
Your starving liberal neighbor?
I’m not being argumentative, I’m being sincere.
We have our guns, we have our ammo…now what?

Kyle Rittenhouse neutralized 3 armed attackers (killing 2) with 8 rounds of .223 and an off the shelf Smith Sporter, while in a tactical retreat on a crowded street.
Let’s do some math.
We have 3000 rounds of .223 or 5.56
We have 5 magazines with 30 rds each.
Here comes the enemy. They are shooting 7.76 at you just like in heartbreak ridge. Or they are unarmed and hungry. Or they have an off the shelf AR15 (90% of Havasu) with a Romeo 3 and no idea of ranging or ballistics.
Either way we draw down.
Let’s say in our panic and unnerved state we only put 1 out of 10 rounds on separate targets.
So for each of our 5 magazines we generate 3 casualties.
That’s 15 bodies laying on the ground dead or wounded.

Show of hands…Who here thinks they can successfully neutralize 15 probably trained enemy combatants in a firefight?
What happens to the other 95 magazines of ammo?
If it is an armed uniformed enemy, half of us will die in the initial targeted artillery. Entire neighborhoods will disappear.
That’s what we do militarily everywhere we go.
So how do you guys see it?
 

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For the record, most of RDP calls for murder in many instances. A sheriff recently murdered a judge after cornering him in his chambers and flat out executed him and many here cheered based on rumor.
Even supercop called it a murder.
Of course, it’s likely none of those peeps have ever killed someone so it’s mostly just hyperbole.

Having said that, I Love this thread.
It’s always educational to me hearing what others picture for the future.
Some of us live on acreage, some of us live in suburbia, some of live in a communist state already.
If no one minds a slight tangent to explore our mind sets,
I am curious how we as individuals picture this street fight going?
Who do you imagine will be the enemy? How do you picture your first firefight going?
What criteria will determine target identification?
Anyone approaching the perimeter?
I realize all this depends on the type of collapse, so let’s stick with “settling it on the streets”.
Are sleeper cells the enemy? Individual plants?
Your starving liberal neighbor?
I’m not being argumentative, I’m being sincere.
We have our guns, we have our ammo…now what?

Kyle Rittenhouse neutralized 3 armed attackers (killing 2) with 8 rounds of .223 and an off the shelf Smith Sporter, while in a tactical retreat on a crowded street.
Let’s do some math.
We have 3000 rounds of .223 or 5.56
We have 5 magazines with 30 rds each.
Here comes the enemy. They are shooting 7.76 at you just like in heartbreak ridge. Or they are unarmed and hungry. Or they have an off the shelf AR15 (90% of Havasu) with a Romeo 3 and no idea of ranging or ballistics.
Either way we draw down.
Let’s say in our panic and unnerved state we only put 1 out of 10 rounds on separate targets.
So for each of our 5 magazines we generate 3 casualties.
That’s 15 bodies laying on the ground dead or wounded.

Show of hands…Who here thinks they can successfully neutralize 15 probably trained enemy combatants in a firefight?
What happens to the other 95 magazines of ammo?
If it is an armed uniformed enemy, half of us will die in the initial targeted artillery. Entire neighborhoods will disappear.
That’s what we do militarily everywhere we go.
So how do you guys see it?
“You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass” - Isoroku Yamamoto

At no point did anyone talk about how well trained the average gun owner is, it’s the sheer number of gun owners that would shape the outcome of an invasion.

Who would win in a football game, 22 of the best players in the world or 300 average Joes?
 

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Since I'm in one of the valleys they would come up through, talking to a guy works at brake masters lives in nogales, i asked about altar valley since cartel went through, and said it is worse in sasabe. couple ranches between me and the border. I'll let you know. 🏜️🍻
 

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“You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass” - Isoroku Yamamoto

At no point did anyone talk about how well trained the average gun owner is, it’s the sheer number of gun owners that would shape the outcome of an invasion.

Who would win in a football game, 22 of the best players in the world or 300 average Joes?
So a war of attrition is what you sort of see as happening.
Yamamotos famous quotes were from 80 years ago.
We didn’t even know the Japanese were here until the planes came into view.
In a strictly manned invasion or rising of embedded cells numbers would MAYBE play a part for a while.
I think there is an overwhelming naivety about what an invading force might look like though.
A neighborhood of 300 overweight smokers with their AR15’s in Havasu, with a fractured state of organization at best, would not stand a chance against A multi pronged attack from even a couple dozen trained teenage combatants who have been fighting since age 10. It isn’t like they will be walking down the street for target practice.
100 of those 300 average joes would run away to guard their ammo and gold.
remember, these are just my opinions, I have no more assumptions of being “right” than anyone else here.
 
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Since I'm in one of the valleys they would come up through, talking to a guy works at brake masters lives in nogales, i asked about altar valley since cartel went through, and said it is worse in sasabe. couple ranches between me and the border. I'll let you know. 🏜️🍻
I worked out there west of Tucson in the water district reclamation zone. We may or may not have had every gun we owned on us!
 

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Likely bots or paid trolls.... literally there are estimates of 80-85% of the accounts on social media are fake in some form... Always pays to do a little recon on the user that posts a controversial answer. It will be very sparse with very little info of family or self pics and most of their posts will be one controversial take after another. All this is targeted to create conflict online and turn folks against one another.
 

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I was just talking about something 'similar' the other day with my Pops.
I said, "I've seen old WW II gun inplacements from Seward Alaska , to Bolsa Chica in HB, and down at Point Loma SD . . . those weren't built there for taget practice. It was just a matter of 'when' and not 'if' . . . they just chose Hawaii instead".
Man that’s the truth.
I’ve seen the bunkers all up and down the chain, as well as the western coast mainland of Alaska. On Shemya I climbed all over the “Queen match” Reagan Star Wars missle silo.
We’d catch the coastie 130 over to Attu and I toured the Attu Japanese massacre sight and memorial.
Technically speaking that’s the only US Soil ever occupied by an invading force.
It’s about as humbling as the Pearl Harbor memorial.
 

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Likely bots or paid trolls.... literally there are estimates of 80-85% of the accounts on social media are fake in some form... Always pays to do a little recon on the user that posts a controversial answer. It will be very sparse with very little info of family or self pics and most of their posts will be one controversial take after another. All this is targeted to create conflict online and turn folks against one another.
I’m checking your IP path now…
 

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For the record, most of RDP calls for murder in many instances. A sheriff recently murdered a judge after cornering him in his chambers and flat out executed him and many here cheered based on rumor.
Even supercop called it a murder.
Of course, it’s likely none of those peeps have ever killed someone so it’s mostly just hyperbole.

Having said that, I Love this thread.
It’s always educational to me hearing what others picture for the future.
Some of us live on acreage, some of us live in suburbia, some of live in a communist state already.
If no one minds a slight tangent to explore our mind sets,
I am curious how we as individuals picture this street fight going?
Who do you imagine will be the enemy? How do you picture your first firefight going?
What criteria will determine target identification?
Anyone approaching the perimeter?
I realize all this depends on the type of collapse, so let’s stick with “settling it on the streets”.
Are sleeper cells the enemy? Individual plants?
Your starving liberal neighbor?
I’m not being argumentative, I’m being sincere.
We have our guns, we have our ammo…now what?

Kyle Rittenhouse neutralized 3 armed attackers (killing 2) with 8 rounds of .223 and an off the shelf Smith Sporter, while in a tactical retreat on a crowded street.
Let’s do some math.
We have 3000 rounds of .223 or 5.56
We have 5 magazines with 30 rds each.
Here comes the enemy. They are shooting 7.76 at you just like in heartbreak ridge. Or they are unarmed and hungry. Or they have an off the shelf AR15 (90% of Havasu) with a Romeo 3 and no idea of ranging or ballistics.
Either way we draw down.
Let’s say in our panic and unnerved state we only put 1 out of 10 rounds on separate targets.
So for each of our 5 magazines we generate 3 casualties.
That’s 15 bodies laying on the ground dead or wounded.

Show of hands…Who here thinks they can successfully neutralize 15 probably trained enemy combatants in a firefight?
What happens to the other 95 magazines of ammo?
If it is an armed uniformed enemy, half of us will die in the initial targeted artillery. Entire neighborhoods will disappear.
That’s what we do militarily everywhere we go.
So how do you guys see it?
Can we just talk about pit bulls?
 

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Tom

Thanks for the link....

interesting read....


my ex-military Son, said, Dad don't make the 1st move... that's what they want...(most likely to steal our Arms and bring Marshall Law)...

I'm a little concerned with what Drones are able to do...


who is the enemy???

why are there 8 million unvetted military aged young men brought across the border???

(if you don't believe that, open your PHUQING EYES!!!)
 

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Tom

Thanks for the link....

interesting read....


my ex-military Son, said, Dad don't make the 1st move... that's what they want...(most likely to steal our Arms and bring Marshall Law)...

I'm a little concerned with what Drones are able to do...


who is the enemy???

why are there 8 million unvetted military aged young men brought across the border???

(if you don't believe that, open your PHUQING EYES!!!)
Very good point.
Right now, people that do exactly what we are discussing are labeled “extremists” and “alt right domestic terrorists”.
In the eyes of our own deep state…WE are the enemy.
 
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