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Been awhile since I have owned a AV gas requiring boat.......what are the locations in Havasu? I know of HavaGas and the airport, any others? HavaGas works out logistically on the way to Windsor from our house but its such a PITA to get in there with a boat and they have really short hoses once you do figure a way to get in. And its only one pump with AV.

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Been awhile since I have owned a AV gas requiring boat.......what are the locations in Havasu? I know of HavaGas and the airport, any others? HavaGas works out logistically on the way to Windsor from our house but its such a PITA to get in there with a boat and they have really short hoses once you do figure a way to get in. And its only one pump with AV.

Thanks, Walt

Parker oil is where I go......



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Parker oil on the corner of acoma and Kiowa has 100 av gas for $4.25 right now. Smiths has 110.
 

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Parker oil on the corner of acoma and Kiowa has 100 av gas for $4.25 right now. Smiths has 110.

Since they are more of a commercial fuel location are the pumps open 24-7 or just business hours?
 

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Been awhile since I have owned a AV gas requiring boat.......what are the locations in Havasu? I know of HavaGas and the airport, any others? HavaGas works out logistically on the way to Windsor from our house but its such a PITA to get in there with a boat and they have really short hoses once you do figure a way to get in. And its only one pump with AV.

Thanks, Walt

Parker Oil is the cheapest and have never had a problem there. As for HavaGas I stopped going there years ago when regular gas came out of the AV Gas nozzle.
 

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Always open. This is where I get fuel when I am down there. Easy in, easy out!
Awesome, Havagas is a cluster and i have to pull in and do one tank then go out and back in for the other side while my wife keeps someone else from stealing the pump.
 

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So what’d ya buy?


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Since they are more of a commercial fuel location are the pumps open 24-7 or just business hours?
Just the pumps are 24's. If you need drums during the day only.
 

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We get regular gas for the toon at the circleK up the 95 a little from PV North. They have a nice Island off to the side that's very easy to get into and they had a pump with high octane fuel but were out last week. I think the side street is Lake St. We pull down the side street and go in the far driveway of the gas station heading back towards the 95.
You might check them out.
 

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Parker, easy to get into, long hoses reach both sides, and open 24-7.
 

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I get my VP 110 at the Country Sundance Mobile.

Last time I got AV at Parker Oil it ddint smell or look like it?
 

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I was recently at Parker Oil in Havasu. The 100 pump was very slow. Making a lot of noise. Probably time for a filter change at the pump
 

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I was recently at Parker Oil in Havasu. The 100 pump was very slow. Making a lot of noise. Probably time for a filter change at the pump

The pump on the North side is slow for sure! The pump on the South side pumps fast!
 

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Always purchase AV Gas at Parker Oil. When Barrett Marine had my boat in for some repairs last October they tested the fuel in the tanks. Their test came back at 95 Octane and 7% ethanol. So either Parker Oil has shit fuel or the test was no good since AV gas should not have ethanol and should be at 100 octane.
 

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Always purchase AV Gas at Parker Oil. When Barrett Marine had my boat in for some repairs last October they tested the fuel in the tanks. Their test came back at 95 Octane and 7% ethanol. So either Parker Oil has shit fuel or the test was no good since AV gas should not have ethanol and should be at 100 octane.


Thats what happened to me. It was just a sniff test and a visual, but didnt seem right to me.
 

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Didn’t someone post that AV gas is actually 96 octane. Something about the way AV is measured vs normal “pump” fuel


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Avgas or 100LL is specifically blended for large cylinder displacement, long stroke, low RPM engines running at low air density. It is perfect for your engine if it is going to run at 2700 to 2800 RPM and at 10,000 feet.

For higher RPM engines, Avgas is not the ticket but a race gas such as VP or Sunoco would be much more desirable and no more expensive.

Avgas also has a much lower specific gravity. As a result, Avgas runs much leaner than standard race gases and needs to be fattened up to prevent an overly lean condition resulting in burnt pistons, valves and and pre-detonation.

If you cannot find race gas, you are better off with pump gas and an octane booster than Avgas for higher RPM race type engines.
 

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Avgas or 100LL is specifically blended for large cylinder displacement, long stroke, low RPM engines running at low air density. It is perfect for your engine if it is going to run at 2700 to 2800 RPM and at 10,000 feet.

For higher RPM engines, Avgas is not the ticket but a race gas such as VP or Sunoco would be much more desirable and no more expensive.

Avgas also has a much lower specific gravity. As a result, Avgas runs much leaner than standard race gases and needs to be fattened up to prevent an overly lean condition resulting in burnt pistons, valves and and pre-detonation.

If you cannot find race gas, you are better off with pump gas and an octane booster than Avgas for higher RPM race type engines.

Good info right here. Thank you.

Another option is to buy 5 gallon pails of race fuel and mix appropriate amount of 91.

I need 91 octane when I go to Lake Powell and Dangling rope only has 87. So I bring two five gallon pails of 120 octane VP fuel. I dump one in the empty tank and drive to the marina on the other tank that still has 91 from town. Then I add 35 gallons of 87 octane and then I have 40 gallons of 91.125 octane fuel in the tank that was empty.
 
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I was recently at Parker Oil in Havasu. The 100 pump was very slow. Making a lot of noise. Probably time for a filter change at the pump
Let go of the handle, wait 5 seconds then start again, it will hall ass.
 

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Avgas or 100LL is specifically blended for large cylinder displacement, long stroke, low RPM engines running at low air density. It is perfect for your engine if it is going to run at 2700 to 2800 RPM and at 10,000 feet.

For higher RPM engines, Avgas is not the ticket but a race gas such as VP or Sunoco would be much more desirable and no more expensive.

Avgas also has a much lower specific gravity. As a result, Avgas runs much leaner than standard race gases and needs to be fattened up to prevent an overly lean condition resulting in burnt pistons, valves and and pre-detonation.

If you cannot find race gas, you are better off with pump gas and an octane booster than Avgas for higher RPM race type engines.

I ran my afr on both 91 and 100 lol, same reading.
 

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Avgas or 100LL is specifically blended for large cylinder displacement, long stroke, low RPM engines running at low air density. It is perfect for your engine if it is going to run at 2700 to 2800 RPM and at 10,000 feet.

For higher RPM engines, Avgas is not the ticket but a race gas such as VP or Sunoco would be much more desirable and no more expensive.

Avgas also has a much lower specific gravity. As a result, Avgas runs much leaner than standard race gases and needs to be fattened up to prevent an overly lean condition resulting in burnt pistons, valves and and pre-detonation.

If you cannot find race gas, you are better off with pump gas and an octane booster than Avgas for higher RPM race type engines.


while some of that is true I have personally ran 100ll on the turbo mustang for years and it works great. Yes it’s slightly leaner but tune for that. Saying pump with bs octane adder is like telling your friends that the 400lb hooker you fucked is a super model. Let’s be real bro
 

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Avgas or 100LL is specifically blended for large cylinder displacement, long stroke, low RPM engines running at low air density. It is perfect for your engine if it is going to run at 2700 to 2800 RPM and at 10,000 feet.

For higher RPM engines, Avgas is not the ticket but a race gas such as VP or Sunoco would be much more desirable and no more expensive.

Avgas also has a much lower specific gravity. As a result, Avgas runs much leaner than standard race gases and needs to be fattened up to prevent an overly lean condition resulting in burnt pistons, valves and and pre-detonation.

If you cannot find race gas, you are better off with pump gas and an octane booster than Avgas for higher RPM race type engines.

Most of us running AV gas have motors tuned for 91 or 93 and we just want the security of having better than our minimum octane. I don’t consider 100 race gas, I consider it good gas.

110 at the pump is a blend and personally I don’t trust it. If you need 110 I would just run c16 out of a drum so you know exactly what you’re running.


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Avgas or 100LL is specifically blended for large cylinder displacement, long stroke, low RPM engines running at low air density. It is perfect for your engine if it is going to run at 2700 to 2800 RPM and at 10,000 feet.

For higher RPM engines, Avgas is not the ticket but a race gas such as VP or Sunoco would be much more desirable and no more expensive.

Avgas also has a much lower specific gravity. As a result, Avgas runs much leaner than standard race gases and needs to be fattened up to prevent an overly lean condition resulting in burnt pistons, valves and and pre-detonation.

If you cannot find race gas, you are better off with pump gas and an octane booster than Avgas for higher RPM race type engines.

"Octane Booster" Lol.

Be better off pissing in the fuel cell after banging a Thai Hooker with no rubber.
 

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I guess when I turned 7200 rpm with 20 psi of boost it won’t do that lol
 

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Most of us running AV gas have motors tuned for 91 or 93 and we just want the security of having better than our minimum octane. I don’t consider 100 race gas, I consider it good gas.

110 at the pump is a blend and personally I don’t trust it. If you need 110 I would just run c16 out of a drum so you know exactly what you’re running.


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I ran Sunoco high octane unleaded gas in my twin turbo Tatum sand car and Avgas in reciprocating aircraft. They will drop off a drum or as many drums as you want of Sunoco to the house. And by the barrel delivered is cheaper than Avgas.

I could pump all the 100LL out at the hangar but still used the Sunoco.

No different than running jet-a for turbine rotorcraft and jet-a with prist for turbines at high altitude.

I just always figured using the appropriate blended fuel was a worthwhile endeavor as those scientists blending fuel know a lot more than I do?
 

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Where are you buying your Sunoco from? What octane? Im going to stock up if it’s cheaper that 100ll..


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The Shell station on palo verdes and lake havasu Blvd has Av Gas. It’s actually pretty easy to navigate a trailer to that pump as well.


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Always purchase AV Gas at Parker Oil. When Barrett Marine had my boat in for some repairs last October they tested the fuel in the tanks. Their test came back at 95 Octane and 7% ethanol. So either Parker Oil has shit fuel or the test was no good since AV gas should not have ethanol and should be at 100 octane.
I purchase my AV gas at Parker Oil also. Did you inform them of the test results? Any explanation from Parker Oil? This is a big concern to me.
 

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Always buy avgas from an airport as it will be as fresh as possible and even pick a high volume airport as well.
 

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I purchase my AV gas at Parker Oil also. Did you inform them of the test results? Any explanation from Parker Oil? This is a big concern to me.
I did not inform Parker Oil. AJ mentioned he was going to take a sample from the pump and test but I never followed back up with him to see if he’s done that or not.
 

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Always purchase AV Gas at Parker Oil. When Barrett Marine had my boat in for some repairs last October they tested the fuel in the tanks. Their test came back at 95 Octane and 7% ethanol. So either Parker Oil has shit fuel or the test was no good since AV gas should not have ethanol and should be at 100 octane.

It should not have Ethanol as Ethanol absorbs water.

There are four principal ways to measure Octane rating, RON, MON, Lean Mixture and Rich Mixture ratings.

Avgas typically is rated on Lean Mixture and Rich Mixture settings. 100LL is typically 100/130, which means 100 at Lean and 130 at Rich. They are typically described with just the Lean Mixture setting so 100LL would equate to Low Leaded Avgas that is 100/130. It would be colored blue.

If it is colored Green, it is 100 and would have a higher lead content than 100LL.

The stuff you put in your car is typically rated RON+MON/2 in order to calculate an average of RON and MON. RON is typically 8 to 10 points above MON. To get to 91 pump gas, you would need a RON in the high 90's to average out with the MON.

Knowing which measurement the 95 relates to would be helpful but the Ethanol in the test is a conundrum unless there was pump gas in the tank prior to putting the Avgas in it as the mixture would end up with a lower Octane and have ethanol. When gas with ethanol sits it will start phasing. The byproduct of phasing is ethanol with water which drops to the bottom of the tank. So if the boat was sitting, you might get a higher ethanol in the test as more ethanol phases, absorbs water and drops to the bottom of the tank nearer the pickup?

Lastly Avgas bought at an airport would not have any road taxes on it and is technically illegal to run on the road. It is also technically illegal to run leaded fuels, even LL fuels on the road by federal law. For example they sell VP fuels in Welton on the way to the dunes or rive, but this is unleaded and the price contains road taxes.

Which leads me to wonder; exactly what is Parker Oil selling out of that pump?
 
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