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Can’t help but notice some 270s just look mean and aggressive. Is it just gel coats? Or were there tweaks to the deck over the years? Talking mid 90s forward. The step deck is obviously different.

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OG deck and the new deck you posted. To my knowledge they didn't tweak it after Bud redesigned it.
 

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OG deck and the new deck you posted. To my knowledge they didn't tweak it after Bud redesigned it.

You ever notice some just look “flat” and others look fast and have a “stance” just sitting there. It must just be the gel.


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Lots.of.changes to this hull over the years. It started out as a 270 silverwing. The hull and deck were designed by Bud Bailey when he was at speed marine and associates in orange. Here's a silverwing:

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After ballet acquired the molds there were deck changes and bottom changes over the years. The straight bottom is still the holy grail in my mind.
 

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You ever notice some just look “flat” and others look fast and have a “stance” just sitting there. It must just be the gel.


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I'm with you. Gel designs also the mid cabin open bow upholstery makes the deck look taller.
 

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Lots.of.changes to this hill over the years. It started out as a 270 silverwing. The hull and deck were designed by his Bailey when he was at speed marine and associates in orange. Here's a silverwing:


After ballet acquired the molds there were deck changes and bottom changes over the years. The straight bottom is still the holy grail in my mind.

You do know Bud was at Hallett up until 1996. Also the straight bottom is the only one left. All step variations were scrapped.
 

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You do know Bud was at Hallett up until 1996. Also the straight bottom is the only one left. All step variations were scrapped.

I don’t believe that to be true. I’d have to ask Thane but I believe they offer a stepped 270?
 

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I don’t believe that to be true. I’d have to ask Thane but I believe they offer a stepped 270?
None of them really worked as they wanted them to. So only the straight bottom was kept.
 

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Ok since this is a boating forum and all.

200k budget. How would you build a 270?

I’m torn between a 800+ single motor with a #6 drive. Or a GT, Teague, Boost twin engine small block boat. Thinking 4-500 per motor.

Option 3 would be twin 3-400 outboards. I think this would be badass but you’re giving up the swim step obviously. Upside is there’s storage under the hatch for birds, skis etc.

Does your mechanic hate you if you at have twins @RiverDave @Runs2rch


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Ok since this is a boating forum and all.

200k budget. How would you build a 270?

I’m torn between a 800+ single motor with a #6 drive. Or a GT, Teague, Boost twin engine small block boat. Thinking 4-500 per motor.

Option 3 would be twin 3-400 outboards. I think this would be badass but you’re giving up the swim step obviously. Upside is there’s storage under the hatch for birds, skis etc.

Does your mechanic hate you if you at have twins @RiverDave @Runs2rch


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Twins all day long. Some might disagree, but that boat is not meant for big power. We’ve had 2 straight bottom 270’s, each with twin 350’s. The 1997 especially was turn key every single time and ran a solid 70. Yes, it’s tight, but hopefully you’re not having to do much more than basic service.

Hard to beat a 270, but the twin engine ones are even better in my opinion.
 

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Twins all day long. Some might disagree, but that boat is not meant for big power. We’ve had 2 straight bottom 270’s, each with twin 350’s. The 1997 especially was turn key every single time and ran a solid 70. Yes, it’s tight, but hopefully you’re not having to do much more than basic service.

Hard to beat a 270, but the twin engine ones are even better in my opinion.

Are there very many 100mph 270s?

I’d be good with something that could hit 80 any day of the week. If building new of course [emoji16]


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Ok since this is a boating forum and all.

200k budget. How would you build a 270?

I’m torn between a 800+ single motor with a #6 drive. Or a GT, Teague, Boost twin engine small block boat. Thinking 4-500 per motor.

Option 3 would be twin 3-400 outboards. I think this would be badass but you’re giving up the swim step obviously. Upside is there’s storage under the hatch for birds, skis etc.

Does your mechanic hate you if you at have twins @RiverDave @Runs2rch


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270 with twin small blocks. Best all around boat, IMO.
 

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Are there very many 100mph 270s?

I’d be good with something that could hit 80 any day of the week. If building new of course [emoji16]


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There might be a very small handful and a bunch of liars who say theirs go up to 100 lol. The boat tends to want to chine walk at higher speeds. 80 is probably at the top end of the speed that hull should run.

I know there was a blue and orange 270 that GT rigged and they tweaked the bottom to make it a runner, but the boat was diabolical to say the least.
 

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Whatever you decide you will love it. The Hallett 270 is a such a great boat.
 

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Ok since this is a boating forum and all.

200k budget. How would you build a 270?

I’m torn between a 800+ single motor with a #6 drive. Or a GT, Teague, Boost twin engine small block boat. Thinking 4-500 per motor.

Option 3 would be twin 3-400 outboards. I think this would be badass but you’re giving up the swim step obviously. Upside is there’s storage under the hatch for birds, skis etc.

Does your mechanic hate you if you at have twins @RiverDave @Runs2rch


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I’d go at least 800 hp , SCX with dual shaft lower and a hydraulic trans in the extension box .
 

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There might be a very small handful and a bunch of liars who say theirs go up to 100 lol. The boat tends to want to chine walk at higher speeds. 80 is probably at the top end of the speed that hull should run.

I know there was a blue and orange 270 that GT rigged and they tweaked the bottom to make it a runner, but the boat was diabolical to say the least.
That boat never ran right. Gary said they put a 525 in it and called it a day.

I would say the straight bottom 27 is a safe 85mph boat. 90ish is probably the fastest I would want to go. Lynch's runs in the 90's. Probably the fastest 27 out there.
 

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Ok since this is a boating forum and all.

200k budget. How would you build a 270?

I’m torn between a 800+ single motor with a #6 drive. Or a GT, Teague, Boost twin engine small block boat. Thinking 4-500 per motor.

Option 3 would be twin 3-400 outboards. I think this would be badass but you’re giving up the swim step obviously. Upside is there’s storage under the hatch for birds, skis etc.

Does your mechanic hate you if you at have twins @RiverDave @Runs2rch


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Working on them isn't that hard. If it was a more major repair, you would have the hatch off anyhow. Normal maintenance is no problem. I would say working on our twin engine 27 was as easy as the 30 we have now.

There is storage. Some on each side the engines, and a little right in front of them. For chairs, beach stakes, fenders.

I would go twin for big lake boating. You never know when you might be the last one on the beach and have to come in on one.
 

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That boat never ran right. Gary said they put a 525 in it and called it a day.

I would say the straight bottom 27 is a safe 85mph boat. 90ish is probably the fastest I would want to go. Lynch's runs in the 90's. Probably the fastest 27 out there.

Lynch’s is a 24. His and my dads are probably the fastest 240’s in existence. I’ve seen 90+ in my old mans boat... getting out of the throttle is a handful to say the least. The hull tends to want to fall on one side or the other of the v. Your really need to ease out of it and let the hull get back in the water.

There’s some fast 270’s out there.. personally, I’d go twin LS small blocks. 6-700 HP a piece.

EDIT: I was corrected by Racey, the Lynch’s do have a 27. Although, I have never seen it.
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Lynch’s is a 24. His and my dads are probably the fastest 240’s in existence. I’ve seen 90+ in my old mans boat... getting out of the throttle is a handful to say the least. The hull tends to want to fall on one side or the other of the v. Your really need to ease out of it and let the hull get back in the water.

There’s some fast 270’s out there.. personally, I’d go twin LS small blocks. 6-700 HP a piece.


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No it's not, it's a 27 with a #III Drive and a Torque Flight Trans.

There is another one that Brummett Built around the same time that is the 240, it has a bravo, Has a EFI Race Aero Brummett motor now.

Lynch has a 240 walk through that he just bought, the 27 he has had for 25 years probably.

270 with twins are pretty easy to work on, especially if you have a coil on plug ignition. Water pumps are easier to change in a twin than a single because the engines are higher. Distributor caps and rotors are a bitch to change in a 270 twin.

Edit: 270 twin won't set any speed records, but it is probably one of the most practical boats ever built for west coast boating. Towable with a 1/2 ton, Plenty of cockpit and cabin room, and easy to get in and out of over the front, back, or sides, they plane and accelerate great, and slow down great also, they take rough water great, much better than a single, They are easy on drives, and you have redundancy if you are boating at large bodies like Powell or Mead.
 
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i own a 27 and have driven every flavor of 27...from singles with and without steps and twins with and without.

there is no doubt in my mind the straight bottom twin is the holy grail and rides/handles the best.

if i was going to build a new one, it would be a tough choice between LS power vs traditional small block.

mine has twin 385hp small blocks and reasonably loaded runs mid to high 60's. lighten it up (holding 125gallons of fuel just a full tank scrubs 5mph+) it might touch 70....maybe.

it should be fairly easy to build 450hp (LS or traditional) engines and i would think should see at least mid 70's. there are more marine engine accessories for traditional SBC but LS has the advantage of being slightly lighter with the aluminum block.

i boat alone often at Powell and never worry about making it back to the dock with twins. they are also easy on drives......i just had mine rebuilt this season after 25 years of use and 1400 hours (bravo's) on the drives with nothing more then oil changes. while the drives were "worn out" nothing was grenaded in them.
 

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No it's not, it's a 27 with a #III Drive and a Torque Flight Trans.

There is another one that Brummett Built around the same time that is the 240, it has a bravo, Has a EFI Race Aero Brummett motor now.

Lynch has a 240 walk through that he just bought, the 27 he has had for 25 years probably.

270 with twins are pretty easy to work on, especially if you have a coil on plug ignition. Water pumps are easier to change in a twin than a single because the engines are higher. Distributor caps and rotors are a bitch to change in a 270 twin.

Edit: 270 twin won't set any speed records, but it is probably one of the most practical boats ever built for west coast boating. Towable with a 1/2 ton, Plenty of cockpit and cabin room, and easy to get in and out of over the front, back, or sides, they plane and accelerate great, and slow down great also, they take rough water great, much better than a single, They are easy on drives, and you have redundancy if you are boating at large bodies like Powell or Mead.

The reasons you give in your 'edit' are what drove me to look for, and purchase my 270T. Besides being a beautiful looking boat. We've been running down in Havasu the last couple of years and am glad I've got this boat. It straight, crushes the chop and slop in Havasu and the river. I'm planning on making some Mead and Powell runs next year.


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I want a 270 bad. Problem is I also want to do 100
i know of many single engine 27's with big power, but don't know of any 27's. for certain the twin drives aid in handling and wondering what a twin with 2x500hp would do from a speed perspective. is anyone aware of a 270T with all out motors?
 

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i know of many single engine 27's with big power, but don't know of any 27's. for certain the twin drives aid in handling and wondering what a twin with 2x500hp would do from a speed perspective. is anyone aware of a 270T with all out motors?
I thought I remembered the Nieman’s 240 being pretty quick, but I was a kid so that could have been 60 I thought was fast.
 

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There might be a very small handful and a bunch of liars who say theirs go up to 100 lol. The boat tends to want to chine walk at higher speeds. 80 is probably at the top end of the speed that hull should run.

I know there was a blue and orange 270 that GT rigged and they tweaked the bottom to make it a runner, but the boat was diabolical to say the least.

That boat never ran at all.. they ended up pulling the power out of it and putting mild
Power in it and selling it.
 

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I have been in a straight bottom twin with small blocks and super chargers.. We were out filming a twin turbo 24 Schiada years ago that ran in the mid 80’s and we blew by him like he was standing still. Lol. We were definitely in the mid 90’s
 

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i own a 27 and have driven every flavor of 27...from singles with and without steps and twins with and without.

there is no doubt in my mind the straight bottom twin is the holy grail and rides/handles the best.

if i was going to build a new one, it would be a tough choice between LS power vs traditional small block.

mine has twin 385hp small blocks and reasonably loaded runs mid to high 60's. lighten it up (holding 125gallons of fuel just a full tank scrubs 5mph+) it might touch 70....maybe.

it should be fairly easy to build 450hp (LS or traditional) engines and i would think should see at least mid 70's. there are more marine engine accessories for traditional SBC but LS has the advantage of being slightly lighter with the aluminum block.

i boat alone often at Powell and never worry about making it back to the dock with twins. they are also easy on drives......i just had mine rebuilt this season after 25 years of use and 1400 hours (bravo's) on the drives with nothing more then oil changes. while the drives were "worn out" nothing was grenaded in them.

Mine fully loaded full of fuel, full cooler (it’s a big ass cooler built in) four adults and kids with two inch drive extensions and over propped with 26’s ran 68 mph on Havasu earlier this summer. I have 24’s on it right bow but if it had 25’s I’d bet it would run low 70’s pretty easily. If I pulled the drives up where they should be it should run mid 70’s. Twin scorpion motors

I haven’t pulled the drives up because the boat does everything so perfectly I just don’t feel the need to mess with it.
 

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No it's not, it's a 27 with a #III Drive and a Torque Flight Trans.

There is another one that Brummett Built around the same time that is the 240, it has a bravo, Has a EFI Race Aero Brummett motor now.

Lynch has a 240 walk through that he just bought, the 27 he has had for 25 years probably.

270 with twins are pretty easy to work on, especially if you have a coil on plug ignition. Water pumps are easier to change in a twin than a single because the engines are higher. Distributor caps and rotors are a bitch to change in a 270 twin.

Edit: 270 twin won't set any speed records, but it is probably one of the most practical boats ever built for west coast boating. Towable with a 1/2 ton, Plenty of cockpit and cabin room, and easy to get in and out of over the front, back, or sides, they plane and accelerate great, and slow down great also, they take rough water great, much better than a single, They are easy on drives, and you have redundancy if you are boating at large bodies like Powell or Mead.

I was thinking of Lynch’s new boat. My bad. Not jacks 270. I forget they even own a 270 lol


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Hello from Texas. First post here, but long time lurker.
I have a 94 270T with twin roots blown smallblocks in it. The boat came from San Pedro, but spent all its time in Parker. Bad attitude boats in Parker did the engine installs about 15 years ago. I’m not sure who built them or what all has been done to them. I’m not even sure of displacement. The boat was mostly in storage after the engine builds before I got it. PO claims it had about 45 hours runtime on them when I took possession. The engines have little actual run time. When I got the boat it had a half tank or so of 113 octane in it. On GPS at Havasu in 2ft chop I ran it out to 92mph. That’s the fastest I’ve ever gone in it. With 91 it will run high 70s in Havasu all day. Where I boat in Oklahoma it will run low 70s. This thing is a tank and it seems like it’s just gets more stable the faster you take it. I’ve never experienced any chine walk in it. Handles rough stuff great as long as you don’t try to slow roll it.

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I was thinking of Lynch’s new boat. My bad. Not jacks 270. I forget they even own a 270 lol


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That's the one I was referring to earlier. Stenton elaborated.
 

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That's the one I was referring to earlier. Stenton elaborated.

I corrected my post.

Do we know if Nordic has the 270 straight bottom mold?


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You sure were. Bud and Jim did everything on the boat. Originally a 509 if I remember right. Forget who built it. Bud named it French Girl after his wife Claudette.

The 509 was built by Terry Laughlin (Off Shore Racing-Lake Tahoe). Had the pleasure of speaking with him 7 years ago.
Tried to get ahold of Bud just to tell him I had his boat but the number was old.
Couple of rebuilds since then and bandaging the engine back together to get me through winter...ya I try to boat all year round.
Jim is awesome to say the least...got laughed at by Nick due to the fact that I was talking to a dummy next to the yellow flatty in Irwindale upon my first visit
to get some work done...what a nice facility that was.
Anyhow, I could go on and on.
 

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One more thing...
That 509 has a B&M 420 Meg Blower with two 750 Holleys and my son and I ran 79.8 mph GPS.
Just finished putting that engine together for the third time but going bigger by summer.
 

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One more thing...
That 509 has a B&M 420 Meg Blower with two 750 Holleys and my son and I ran 79.8 mph GPS.
Just finished putting that engine together for the third time but going bigger by summer.
Right on. It was N/A when Bud had it built.
 

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They do. That is the only one they have.

Not sure if I skipped it, is/has Nordic built a straight bottom 270? All I've seen is the new modified versions, which to ME is not a true 270 Hallett.
I'm okay with them modding out the 240, 255, 335 and 40, but the 270 is timeless.
 

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Not sure if I skipped it, is/has Nordic built a straight bottom 270? All I've seen is the new modified versions, which to ME is not a true 270 Hallett.
I'm okay with them modding out the 240, 255, 335 and 40, but the 270 is timeless.
The only Hallett's they have built are a few 255's and a 285 deck boat. The 275 Hallett which they designed has sold quite a few. I like the boat, and all the function it offers. I just feel it looks like a Nordic.
 

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They do. That is the only one they have.

Might have to give thane a call on Monday. We talked two seasons ago about doing a 275.

I’m really tempted to build a new boat next year.

300 was on the short list. But they are rare and I’m picky about the engine package. I wish I had the coin to jump on the orange 300 w/525’s that was for sale a couple seasons ago. Supposedly, it was the last 300 built...

I want a new composite build, with classic Hallett lines and the Hallett interior. It’ll be an easy sell to the wife. She wants a MCOB 270. [emoji848]


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Not for the 270 but here’s some pricing I got the other day from them.

Hallett 400
$585,000
600s
XR drives

Hallett 400
$699,000
1100s
6s

Hallett 285
$189,000
600
XR

Hallett 285
$219,000
700
6 drive

Hallett 335
$400,999
600s
XRs


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Not for the 270 but here’s some pricing I got the other day from them.

Hallett 400
$585,000
600s
XR drives

Hallett 400
$699,000
1100s
6s

Hallett 285
$189,000
600
XR

Hallett 285
$219,000
700
6 drive

Hallett 335
$400,999
600s
XRs


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285 Deck?

Did they give you pricing on the 275?

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285 Deck?

Did they give you pricing on the 275?

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Didn’t ask about the 275 as it’s my least favorite thing they’ve done to date. Yes the deck boat. I love them for whatever reason.


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Didn’t ask about the 275 as it’s my least favorite thing they’ve done to date. Yes the deck boat. I love them for whatever reason.


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I have a warm spot for the Deck as well. I don’t know why either. Lol.

With the right gel design, they look really good! [emoji106]


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