Elsinore.

[MPHSystems]

Well, I‘ve got the boat running like a top. Same with the buggy but now I’m too busy to use either . Thinking of doing a day out on Elsinore next Saturday. I haven‘t been on that lake in 20 years and it was stand up jet ski (440 and 550 at the time) what should I watch out for?

 

[FROGMAN524]

Don’t go in the water and watch for brain eating amoebas.

 

[ChrisV]

Nothing. Run it

 

[wzuber]

The lake is very full and way cleaner then it's been in decades. They installed a filtration system that is working wonders. Enjoy your day on the water..

 

[Bajastu]

I'd run the boat but no swiming. It's nasty !!!

 

[Icky]

My friends live in Elsinore, they tell us how clean the water is. I've seen it, I don't ever think I'll consider it clean

 

[92562]

The lake is much cleaner this year compared to last year but here is a notice from the city's website:

Lake Watch - Current State of Lake Elsinore​

Update as of April 26, 2024​

Based on recent lab results from lake water sampling and guidance from the California State Water Board, the City of Lake Elsinore is announcing that current levels of toxins from algae warrant the posting of a “Caution” advisory. Under this advisory, and per the CA State Water Resources Control Board, people may engage in all forms of recreation, including swimming, boating, and fishing. People are advised to stay away from any remaining visible algae, to not drink lake water, and to continue to keep pets out of the water. Have fun and be safe on the lake!

 

[MPHSystems]

Yea, the last time I was on Elsinore, it was in the 90’s on stand ups. I got some sort of itchy fungus that lasted for weeks on my skin. At the time, I blamed it on the girl I brought but in retrospect, it probably wasn’t her.

 

[MPHSystems]

My friends live in Elsinore, they tell us how clean the water is. I've seen it, I don't ever think I'll consider it clean

The water was great! Had it been 115 out, no wind and no biminie, we would have jumped right in. Instead of wasting $1T on a high speed train to San Francisco, California needs to buy a dictionary for every Lake Elsinore resident with a bookmark for the page that defines the word “clean”.

The green in that lake is thicker than Anderson’s pea soup. On the ramp, I couldn’t even see my toes in ankle deep water And the stench of dead carp really complemented the motif.

I will say this, it is the nicest ramp I have ever seen and by no small margin. it’s really a nice ramp. It seems they are trying to airate the water and clean it up. I hope it works, it would be nice to have a patch of water nearby that you would want to swim in.

 

[77charger]

I think every lake in so cal has a algae boom right now.

As for Elsinore they always claim well it’s cleaner than before lol. When I lived in so cal I prefer to run my jet ski in the salt. We would go to Granada on Sunday morning set up a course.

When it came to boat I drove to the river

 

[ChrisV]

When I back in my trailer and can’t see my shiny ass fenders. It’s not clean.

 

[GreenEnergy28]

I have lived in Elsinore most of my life. I finally got the ol' toon back up and running so we decided to hit the lake. We have been hearing the lake was clean but also heard from a few people that it is nasty...
I can tell you this much, it was definitely not clean. Probably the most algae I've ever seen this early into the season. I usually get the season pass but that's not going to happen this year. The city is working really hard to get the aldea under control, but they have their work cut out for them.

 

[OCMerrill]

It seems they are trying to airate the water and clean it up. I hope it works, it would be nice to have a patch of water nearby that you would want to swim in.

They have been running that system the past 10 years at least. I am not sure of the benefit if any.

In the winter time the lake defiantly looks better. The warmer it gets the worse it is and largely because the lake only has an average depth of 25'.

 

[Badchoices03]

Its has a bad algae bloom right now....it really has been cleaner then before, this was a few weeks ago...

 

[MARCYTECH]

It is very full but I wouldn’t consider it clean. It is extremely green. I was standing about mid shin deep and couldn’t see my feet lol. I wouldn’t swim in that shit but it’s fun for a day of boating close to home.

 

[OCMerrill]

For me its a great place to test any boat issues before a river trip.

Also find the wind direction and float around as far upwind as you can. We do not swim but enjoy or time on the water just the same.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

 

[rivermobster]

 

[MPHSystems]

I love how the “scientist“ has to wear gloves to handle the probe that’s been in the lake for a few moments but it’s safe for your kids go go in!

I will say this, peroxide is a very effective Algaecide. It’s very safe (when diluted) it does its job rather quickly and once it’s done it turns into water and oxygen. The problem is that once dead, the algae releases all its nutrients right back into the soup (Elsinore residents call it “water”). An O3 generator and diffuser has similar results, I just have no idea which is more cost effective on this scale.

Lanthanum chloride is an exceptionally good compound for precipitating phosphates and it’s very inexpensive. The only real drawbacks are:

it leaves a very fine precipitation “dust” which can be hazardous to fish gills
it has a tendency to precipitate bicarbonate, the lake can potentially become more acidic
it does nothing for nitrates, which are the other main nutrient and are really difficult to remove

so, one problem is that once you remove all the phosphates with lanthanum products, you still have nitrates and there are strains of algae which can use ammonia instead of phosphate


Ultimately the only way to get rid of the algae is nutrient export.

If it was me, I’d just say screw out for 2-3 years, we are dosing iron and growing the algae as fast as possible and use some sort of giant strainer on a conveyor belt to harvest the algae.

The long term problem is runoff if lawn care products which feed the algae.


Perhaps grow some quagga muscles, they have done wonders for lake Mead.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

I love how the “scientist“ has to wear gloves to handle the probe that’s been in the lake for a few moments but it’s safe for your kids go go in!

I will say this, peroxide is a very effective Algaecide. It’s very safe (when diluted) it does its job rather quickly and once it’s done it turns into water and oxygen. The problem is that once dead, the algae releases all its nutrients right back into the soup (Elsinore residents call it “water”). An O3 generator and diffuser has similar results, I just have no idea which is more cost effective on this scale.

Lanthanum chloride is an exceptionally good compound for precipitating phosphates and it’s very inexpensive. The only real drawbacks are:

it leaves a very fine precipitation “dust” which can be hazardous to fish gills
it has a tendency to precipitate bicarbonate, the lake can potentially become more acidic
it does nothing for nitrates, which are the other main nutrient and are really difficult to remove

so, one problem is that once you remove all the phosphates with lanthanum products, you still have nitrates and there are strains of algae which can use ammonia instead of phosphate


Ultimately the only way to get rid of the algae is nutrient export.

If it was me, I’d just say screw out for 2-3 years, we are dosing iron and growing the algae as fast as possible and use some sort of giant strainer on a conveyor belt to harvest the algae.

The long term problem is runoff if lawn care products which feed the algae.


Perhaps grow some quagga muscles, they have done wonders for lake Mead.

They've been attempting to fix this lake my entire life. Nothing has worked. I wish they would drain it, dig it deeper and fill her back up.

 

[MPHSystems]

They've been attempting to fix this lake my entire life. Nothing has worked. I wish they would drain it, dig it deeper and fill her back up.

The problem is the nutrients. Phosphates and nitrates.

Phosphates are pretty easy. I don’t know the Po3/Po4 concentrations or the volume of water in the lake but a 55 gallon drum or two of LaCl3 would probably bring the soluble phosphorus levels to 0.

Nitrates anre another situation. There are some chelation compounds but the are rather expensive and ineffective. There are also some anaerobic bacterium which feast on nitrates but you’d need a massive structure to house a culture big enough to fix that issue.

Best way to do it is to grow as much algae as you can and harvest it.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

The problem is the nutrients. Phosphates and nitrates.

Phosphates are pretty easy. I don’t know the Po3/Po4 concentrations or the volume of water in the lake but a 55 gallon drum or two of LaCl3 would probably bring the soluble phosphorus levels to 0.

Nitrates anre another situation. There are some chelation compounds but the are rather expensive and ineffective. There are also some anaerobic bacterium which feast on nitrates but you’d need a massive structure to house a culture big enough to fix that issue.

Best way to do it is to grow as much algae as you can and harvest it.

I wouldn't know. Maybe you can get hired on as a paid consultant.

 

[mash on it]

Lake Elsinore could use
Copper sulfate like LADWP uses.
Among other water municipalities.

Dan'l