Don't believe this to be a VIN --- Plane Crash last night in La Jolla.

[Taboma]

Here's a fox new link if you're interested.

Pilot killed in small plane crash near Torrey Pines

Authorities on Wednesday are searching for a possible downed small aircraft in the area of Torrey Pines Gliderport, according to police.

fox5sandiego.com

 

[MK1MOD0]

Here is what I don’t understand, the weather was nasty as hell last night.... so why would anyone go flying on a small plane like that. These type of accidents always amaze me. These pilots don’t seem to know “ risk assessment “ .

 

[Sandlord]

Here is what I don’t understand, the weather was nasty as hell last night.... so why would anyone go flying on a small plane like that. These type of accidents always amaze me. These pilots don’t seem to know “ risk assessment “ .

Perhaps because the life insurance company wont pay out to the family if it looks like a suicide?

 

[Taboma]

Perhaps because the life insurance company wont pay out to the family if it looks like a suicide?

Kind of a risky way to do it, as he came close to wiping out a lot of innocents living in the Condo Complex. Thankfully he crashed into the trees, missing the buildings.

Took off from Murrieta, short flight but arrives low on fuel by the time he arrived in the SD area, re-directed to nearby Montgomery Field, gets lost or disoriented and crashes. Hard to imagine how he envisioned his night would play out.

 

[Ziggy]

 

[DUNEFLYER]

The flight originated in Concord (northern Ca.) No stop in Murrieta shown.
Plane has about 4hrs of fuel on board and he was in the air just about that long.

N1400 Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

Track N1400 flight from Kirsch Muni to Warren

www.flightaware.com

Also from "liveatc"

7:45.. fly hdg 250
8:50 ...cleared for the ILS 28R
11:24... change to advisory
12:11 ... Advise N1400 he's south of course
16:30 ... I'm going missed
17:00 ... I'm low on fuel
17:20... climb immediately
18:20 ... vectors
18:40 ... need an emergency landing
19:17 ... yes, I'm completely out of fuel. Controller trys to vector him.

Sad for sure, pilot supposedly had quite a bit of experience.

 

[Taboma]

The flight originated in Concord (northern Ca.) No stop in Murrieta shown.
Plane has about 4hrs of fuel on board and he was in the air just about that long.

N1400 Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

Track N1400 flight from Kirsch Muni to Warren

www.flightaware.com

Also from "liveatc"

7:45.. fly hdg 250
8:50 ...cleared for the ILS 28R
11:24... change to advisory
12:11 ... Advise N1400 he's south of course
16:30 ... I'm going missed
17:00 ... I'm low on fuel
17:20... climb immediately
18:20 ... vectors
18:40 ... need an emergency landing
19:17 ... yes, I'm completely out of fuel. Controller trys to vector him.

Sad for sure, pilot supposedly had quite a bit of experience.

Surely you can't doubt Fox News ??? I see in a newer update on another paper that was corrected.

I am curious about the times listed, would seem to indicate he flew for another 2 hours after reporting low on fuel ?? What's up with the times shown ?

 

[Ziggy]

So close to big roads and open space by Torrey Pines glider port & golf course or even the beach. I can only imagine the weather had some affect

 

[DUNEFLYER]

Fox News??

 

[Taboma]

Fox News??

Article I linked above, early report, often not completely accurate.

 

[monkeyswrench]

How bad was the weather for the people in that complex to not hear a plane crash into those trees?

Sad deal. As pointed out, not what he or anyone thought the night would bring

 

[Cobalt232]

The weather deteriorated rapidly last night. He went missed at F70. IMC, dark, ran through his reserve fuel... Dang.

 

[Taboma]

The weather deteriorated rapidly last night. He went missed at F70. IMC, dark, ran through his reserve fuel... Dang.

In as much as I admit to not being savy of your cool pilot lingo, other than running through his reserve fuel, I can say that inland of there, I couldn't see across the street at 8:30 PM from the fog or low cloud cover, and it was still raining.

 

[JDKRXW]

The weather deteriorated rapidly last night. He went missed at F70. IMC, dark, ran through his reserve fuel... Dang.

And wouldn't give up on his final destination (Torrey Pines).

 

[The Prisoner]

I believe this is the pilot

Michael M. Salour

 

[Sleek-Jet]

In as much as I admit to not being savy of your cool pilot lingo, other than running through his reserve fuel, I can say that inland of there, I couldn't see across the street at 8:30 PM from the fog or low cloud cover, and it was still raining.

Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive.

He said the pilot performed an instrument approach to the French Valley airport, but couldn't make it in so he went around. He was still in the clouds, it was dark and he ran out of fuel and crashed... Golly.

 

[Taboma]

Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive.

He said the pilot performed an instrument approach to the French Valley airport, but couldn't make it in so he went around. He was still in the clouds, it was dark and he ran out of fuel and crashed... Golly.

He went around and ended up in La Jolla where he then ran out of fuel and crashed, bummer either way, just happy he didn't take out others with him.

 

[Orange Juice]

The flight originated in Concord (northern Ca.) No stop in Murrieta shown.
Plane has about 4hrs of fuel on board and he was in the air just about that long.

N1400 Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

Track N1400 flight from Kirsch Muni to Warren

www.flightaware.com

Also from "liveatc"

7:45.. fly hdg 250
8:50 ...cleared for the ILS 28R
11:24... change to advisory
12:11 ... Advise N1400 he's south of course
16:30 ... I'm going missed
17:00 ... I'm low on fuel
17:20... climb immediately
18:20 ... vectors
18:40 ... need an emergency landing
19:17 ... yes, I'm completely out of fuel. Controller trys to vector him.

Sad for sure, pilot supposedly had quite a bit of experience.

I bet he caught a nice tailwind on the trip down, but as he approached the LA area, all that changed.

Don't understand him declaring a low fuel emergency, and then running out 2 hours later?

 

[rrrr]

The weather deteriorated rapidly last night. He went missed at F70. IMC, dark, ran through his reserve fuel... Dang.

It was a Cessna P210. For the non-pilots, that's a pressurized and almost always a capable IFR aircraft with updated avionics. I've seen indications the line of flight had 50+ MPH headwinds, which eats fuel. I recall seeing 20 GPH fuel flow at 195 kts true airspeed when I was flying one.

The airplane looks to be pretty much intact, when I first saw a photo I was hoping the impact was survivable. That's the second fatal related to F70 and bad weather in the last few months, the prior being the bizjet crash that killed six.

 

[King295]

I believe this is the pilot

Michael M. Salour

Impressive resume and IFR rated. Should be noted I know nothing about being a pilot other than what I watch on YouTube. The flight threads here got me down a rabbit hole and my wife is convinced I'm going to end up at flight school. If I can find the time, I probably will.