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Damn, that could have been handled differently. :thumbsdown
 

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Sad deal,I agree could have been handled different.

The dog owner ultimately is responsible here,it shouldn't have been loose.
Shooting it,especially in a residential area is a gross over reaction.Do they not carry a baton anymore?

And on the same note,wouldn't have calling animal control been the people to call?That is why they're called "animal control",isn't it?
 

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Why was the fog loose? Right or wrong it should not have been lose.
 

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Cops like to shoot dogs these days. There are stories all over the place to that point.
 

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That video makes it easy to sympathize with LEOs. (Note: not joking. That dog owner is a total dipshit.)
 
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I'd be in jail right now 'cause I'd have beat that idiot cop down into a moist puddle.....No way that shooting was warranted or necessary. And his chief can pound sand as well. There was a better way.

The dogs were loose and barking but a mailman, UPS, or other home service professional would have easily handled that situation. Dipshit cop was aggressively pushing the dog back with his gun out. Poor tactic. And on top of it the dick can't even shoot well enough to make a clean kill.

Any LE that tries to explain this one off is way way out of line. Bad law enforcement example period.
 

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Why was the fog loose? Right or wrong it should not have been lose.

A party, dogs get out, no need to shoot them......Now the fog on the other hand, tough to keep it contained.:skull
 

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That video makes it easy to sympathize with LEOs. (Note: not joking. That dog owner is a total dipshit.)

Yeah, it being a service dog......Damned blind and sick people and their mutts anyway.
 

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Shooting it,especially in a residential area is a gross over reaction.Do they not carry a baton anymore?

Ever had a dog bite send you to the ER?
I have.

I don't see a problem with the cop in this case.
It would be interesting to know if this was the first 'dogs at large' call directed at this owner. Something tells me it's wasn't.
 

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I'd be in jail right now 'cause I'd have beat that idiot cop down into a moist puddle.....No way that shooting was warranted or necessary. And his chief can pound sand as well. There was a better way.

The dogs were loose and barking but a mailman, UPS, or other home service professional would have easily handled that situation. Dipshit cop was aggressively pushing the dog back with his gun out. Poor tactic. And on top of it the dick can't even shoot well enough to make a clean kill.

Any LE that tries to explain this one off is way way out of line. Bad law enforcement example period.

Poor tactic?Which part?Shooting the dog or letting the already agitated dog owner go inside to retrieve his ID?
Mr.Dog owner could very well have over reacted himself and retrieved his own .45 just as easily.
 

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Ever had a dog bite send you to the ER?
I have.

I don't see a problem with the cop in this case.
It would be interesting to know if this was the first 'dogs at large' call directed at this owner. Something tells me it's wasn't.

No I haven't.I hit that fucker with a stick before it got that far.He didn't want to play anymore after that and he lived to see another day.
 

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I normally don't comment on POPO threads, but that was fuckin retarded.

What a puss :thumbsdown
 

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No I haven't.I hit that fucker with a stick before it got that far.He didn't want to play anymore after that and he lived to see another day.

I was pulling a big lab away from two kids he had cornered and didn't have time to find a stick when I got bit.
I have zero use for any agitated dogs running loose on the street.
 

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What a jackass shoot the dog then cite the owner for dog loose.
But i bet that officer just wanted to make it home safe to his family.:thumbsdown
 

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I was pulling a big lab away from two kids he had cornered and didn't have time to find a stick when I got bit.
I have zero use for any agitated dogs running loose on the street.
I agree,zero use for agitated dogs loose.
You had no time,that cop did.He knew that dog was agitated when he stepped out,he chose the most rash way to deal with it.

And,(sorry Lab owners) the dog I hit with the stick was also a Lab.
 

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Poor tactic?Which part?Shooting the dog or letting the already agitated dog owner go inside to retrieve his ID?
Mr.Dog owner could very well have over reacted himself and retrieved his own .45 just as easily.

Goes to show you got cha a stupid dickhead of a cop......The whole situation was a clusterfuck due to his incompetence.

I'd a bailed the dog owner out if he shot the dickhead.:skull
 

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He'd never make as a UPS guy.

Somewhere between kicking him and shooting him there could have been a pepper spray step.
 

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He'd never make as a UPS guy.

Somewhere between kicking him and shooting him there could have been a pepper spray step.

Pepper spray would have been the logical way to go but some of these cops are such pussies and when they get a chance to fire their gun watch the fuck out. A old buddy of mine shot a boxer in front of someones house responding to a call and I told him the exact same thing and called him a pussy as well :D
 

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Cops shooting dogs seems to be protocol nowadays.

I agree with everyone else, why take it right to that level? Did the dog have its teeth on someone? Was it cornering and endangering life? By all means then, shoot to kill.

But these random pussy cops shooting dogs lately is pathetic. These dogs arent even charging them. And nice move, go ahead and kick a dog to make it back up. That will calm him down. :rolleyes

The dudes probably never shot their service weapon in a real life scenario, and they do it for the thrill. You hear the guy breathing all adrenalined out after doing it.

Wow, so you killed a dog. Real Hero
 

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Pepper spray would have been the logical way to go but some of these cops are such pussies and when they get a chance to fire their gun watch the fuck out. A old buddy of mine shot a boxer in front of someones house responding to a call and I told him the exact same thing and called him a pussy as well :D

And trust me, his buddies at the station called him a pussy also along with this guy as well.:thumbsup
 

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Maybe he should have stayed in the car and honked the horn until the owner came out, yelled for him to put the dogs away and then cited the owner, LOL!!

He was called for the dogs, obviously they were bothering the neighbors, hard for me not to agree with the cop even though it sucked for the dog.
 

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So if the dog just bit little timmy down the road, would you guys still not shoot? If my kid was bit. Dead dog, no question.
 
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So if the dog just bit little timmy down the road, would you guys still not shoot? If my kid was bit. Dead dog, no question.

Timmy didn't get bit. Timmy was playing with the dog a few minutes earlier, and left the gate open. The dog was telling that funny guy in black, that Timmy lived in that house, and Timmy was his friend, and tried to scare the guy in black away. No attack at all what so ever.
 

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If the owner gave a shit about those dogs he would not have them running in the street unsupervised for the neighbors and people walking by to deal with.
 

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I was thinking the same thing, or use the PA system to get the owners attention.

Shit it was snowing, where was the party going on, inside or out?



Maybe he should have stayed in the car and honked the horn until the owner came out, yelled for him to put the dogs away and then cited the owner, LOL!!

He was called for the dogs, obviously they were bothering the neighbors, hard for me not to agree with the cop even though it sucked for the dog.
 

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The only reason that the dog got shot was the Copper was afraid of dogs. He was bitten once and was not having anymore of it. Lots of better ways to handle the situation. The cop was just as stupid as the homeowner. Sad thing for sure... It sure would be nice if some of these cops has a little higher IQ or at least a little better problem solving skills...:(

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I have been exceptionally fortunate not to have to live next to an asshole with 10 dogs that bark constantly.. That being said having watched that video where both of those dogs are barking and aggressive, and then hearing wild kingdom when the guy knocked on the door..

I will say I'm glad I don't live next to that asshole.

Judging from the video it looks like the cop shot the dog on the owners property. That could get pretty messy for him I would think.

To finish if I happened to be that guys neighbor, I'd probably be happy about the idea that the cop shot one of his asshole dogs.

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Removed -off topic, lame :D
 
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He'll be lucky he doesn't get Hawthorne's Attorney bill, fucking idiot!!
 

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That cops name would be mud when I was done with him...I will say my dogs would not be out, but he being the law enforcement "professional" could have and should have handled it 100 different ways. If you know anything about dogs you would know that neither of those dogs were going to bite.
 

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It would take moe than cuffs if that were me. The owner is as much at fault though
 

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My dog does the same thing, stands a good distance away from the person and barks if the person comes closer he does what he is supposed to do Protect his family, he never has biten anyone because most can figure out not to go forward.
If I was a cop that cop would be the last guy I'd want as a partner, he is scared of something quite common on the open streets.
I understand in the heat of the moment, but their was no heat the cop was the aggressor he could have easily got back in his car and called for backup like he would if he was facing a human situtation.
 

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If anything, this is why you don't go blasting people's dogs. In a small city like Hawthorne, this one will hurt unless they are not self-insured.

What about that scenario makes you think the city is going to lose?
 

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All you internet warriors crack me up. I don't know what video you are watching but it's painfully obvious the dog that got shot was not simply barking and maintaining a distance when it happened. In fact, he lunges, jumps back and then is coming at him again when he get's shot. Listen to him bark and snarl the whole time. The yellow was running around like an idiot and seemed to learn real quick it's time to go... smart dog.

I know people have an emotional attachment to dogs, I do too. And if that were my dog I'd be real pissed, right up until I saw the video and realized what an asshole I was for not ensuring my dogs are safe and secure in the first place.

And before you make real stupid comments... I've never had to shoot a dog. I've had plenty of opportunity and have come real close, but have always either been able to sweet talk them down from their aggressive state or scare them off. Last one I encountered was a real stocky pit, came charging at me. I gave him the extra second and sure enough he sat down at my feet and just drooled. That thing would have easily fucked me up if he wanted to. He just wasn't human aggressive and the owner is real lucky I was the one there and not someone else. Even the neighbor was surprised I didn't unload on him.

This cop was justified like it or not.
 

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What about that scenario makes you think the city is going to lose?

Yes, I shouldn't have worded my post like that, I completely fumbled my thoughts. I agree they could very well walk away as winners from that one.
 

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All you internet warriors crack me up. I don't know what video you are watching but it's painfully obvious the dog that got shot was not simply barking and maintaining a distance when it happened. In fact, he lunges, jumps back and then is coming at him again when he get's shot. Listen to him bark and snarl the whole time. The yellow was running around like an idiot and seemed to learn real quick it's time to go... smart dog.

I know people have an emotional attachment to dogs, I do too. And if that were my dog I'd be real pissed, right up until I saw the video and realized what an asshole I was for not ensuring my dogs are safe and secure in the first place.

And before you make real stupid comments... I've never had to shoot a dog. I've had plenty of opportunity and have come real close, but have always either been able to sweet talk them down from their aggressive state or scare them off. Last one I encountered was a real stocky pit, came charging at me. I gave him the extra second and sure enough he sat down at my feet and just drooled. That thing would have easily fucked me up if he wanted to. He just wasn't human aggressive and the owner is real lucky I was the one there and not someone else. Even the neighbor was surprised I didn't unload on him.

This cop was justified like it or not.

Well you can put this thread down as the first one in history where I sided with the coppers.. :D. I was kind of surprised he didn't shoot both of them.

RD
 

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All you internet warriors crack me up. I don't know what video you are watching but it's painfully obvious the dog that got shot was not simply barking and maintaining a distance when it happened. In fact, he lunges, jumps back and then is coming at him again when he get's shot. Listen to him bark and snarl the whole time. The yellow was running around like an idiot and seemed to learn real quick it's time to go... smart dog.

I know people have an emotional attachment to dogs, I do too. And if that were my dog I'd be real pissed, right up until I saw the video and realized what an asshole I was for not ensuring my dogs are safe and secure in the first place.

And before you make real stupid comments... I've never had to shoot a dog. I've had plenty of opportunity and have come real close, but have always either been able to sweet talk them down from their aggressive state or scare them off. Last one I encountered was a real stocky pit, came charging at me. I gave him the extra second and sure enough he sat down at my feet and just drooled. That thing would have easily fucked me up if he wanted to. He just wasn't human aggressive and the owner is real lucky I was the one there and not someone else. Even the neighbor was surprised I didn't unload on him.

This cop was justified like it or not.

Have to agree with this one. This city has no Animal Control Dept. The officer was there because the neighbors called about dogs running loose (probably not the first time). The dogs former owner got rid of him because of his aggressiveness. Also it looks like the dogs were out running around the neighborhood for several hours. The dog's owner is the one who should be prosecuted.

http://magicvalley.com/news/local/s...cle_5e989a44-928a-11e3-b2a5-0019bb2963f4.html
 

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I'd be in jail right now 'cause I'd have beat that idiot cop down into a moist puddle.....No way that shooting was warranted or necessary. And his chief can pound sand as well. There was a better way.

The dogs were loose and barking but a mailman, UPS, or other home service professional would have easily handled that situation. Dipshit cop was aggressively pushing the dog back with his gun out. Poor tactic. And on top of it the dick can't even shoot well enough to make a clean kill.

Any LE that tries to explain this one off is way way out of line. Bad law enforcement example period.

I could not have said that any better than you. Some kid could have let the dogs out at the party and didnt tell anybody. Not always the dogs fault, the only thing i would have done different is beat his chief down too.
 

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If a dog is going to attack you they dont jump around back and fourth and lunge at you and walk in circles. They will do it asap. The cop should have called animal control and let a professional do there job. just because he is a cop doesnt give him the right to do what ever he wants,shooting a gun at a kids party is bullshit.
 

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my black lab is very protective,probably in the same case ,would get shot,shes never bit but who knows. I see him shooting but then again,get on the loudspeaker in the cop car and call the owner out,at least choose a alternate way to deal with first,hell turn on the siren. there had to be a better way.just a thought.
 

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I'd be in jail right now 'cause I'd have beat that idiot cop down into a moist puddle.....No way that shooting was warranted or necessary. And his chief can pound sand as well. There was a better way.

The dogs were loose and barking but a mailman, UPS, or other home service professional would have easily handled that situation. Dipshit cop was aggressively pushing the dog back with his gun out. Poor tactic. And on top of it the dick can't even shoot well enough to make a clean kill.

Any LE that tries to explain this one off is way way out of line. Bad law enforcement example period.

I see that you have a quote stating we should bear arms to protect ourselves from government tyranny. But its not okay to bear arms to protect ourselves against dog tyranny? Just trying to clarify
 

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You mean like being a responsible dog owner and stop acting like he wasn't smart enough to get into a trailer park?

Every once and a while I think to myself hey Brown fuck off, today I went ahead and typed it.............
 

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I see that you have a quote stating we should bear arms to protect ourselves from government tyranny. But its not okay to bear arms to protect ourselves against dog tyranny? Just trying to clarify

Well if you are stupid enough to let a dog tyrannize you, you probably are too stupid to load the gun anyway, just saying......
 

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I wish the cops, fish and game or animal control would shoot the coyotes around my house.

they be running loose all day long.....
 
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If a dog is going to attack you they dont jump around back and fourth and lunge at you and walk in circles. They will do it asap. The cop should have called animal control and let a professional do there job. just because he is a cop doesnt give him the right to do what ever he wants,shooting a gun at a kids party is bullshit.

Really?

[video=youtube;WWTJPN7d06E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWTJPN7d06E[/video]

[video=youtube;ZGUyMFPJRnU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGUyMFPJRnU[/video]

Oh and per the link I posted earlier, that city does not have an Animal control dept.
 
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All you internet warriors crack me up. I don't know what video you are watching but it's painfully obvious the dog that got shot was not simply barking and maintaining a distance when it happened. In fact, he lunges, jumps back and then is coming at him again when he get's shot. Listen to him bark and snarl the whole time. The yellow was running around like an idiot and seemed to learn real quick it's time to go... smart dog.

I know people have an emotional attachment to dogs, I do too. And if that were my dog I'd be real pissed, right up until I saw the video and realized what an asshole I was for not ensuring my dogs are safe and secure in the first place.

And before you make real stupid comments... I've never had to shoot a dog. I've had plenty of opportunity and have come real close, but have always either been able to sweet talk them down from their aggressive state or scare them off. Last one I encountered was a real stocky pit, came charging at me. I gave him the extra second and sure enough he sat down at my feet and just drooled. That thing would have easily fucked me up if he wanted to. He just wasn't human aggressive and the owner is real lucky I was the one there and not someone else. Even the neighbor was surprised I didn't unload on him.

This cop was justified like it or not.
I mean no disrespect here,in fact you have plenty of my respect.Your job I imagine is not an easy one.Please indulge me in a rational discussion.Im not a name caller and would appreciate the same courtesy.

I whole heatedly disagree with that shot being justified.
Here's why......(6 dots,just for Froggy;))
He justified the shot because in the past he has been bit and sent to ER.
So,by that logic should he be sent to the ER by a human,in the future should a perp resist arrest he should just go straight to his gun?
You yourself commented in the Oakland thread about the cop wrestling a perp,why didn't he just shoot the bastard?Maybe he's not yet been sent to ER by a perp?

The justification by that dog shooting officer was a cop out,pun intended.
Like I posted earlier,do you guys not carry a baton any more?6 cell Maglight?Pepperspray?
He had time before he stepped out if the cruiser to see what was going on and evaluate the situation,he chose the most lethal means....except maybe not opting to use the shotgun.
 
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