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This is what low bid gets you! View attachment 557005

Doing what it does best... (sitting there..)

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Chargers always breaking for sure, they are a pile of crap after 40k, nothing beats the old crown vic's imo....:) PS hows it going old buddy? Miss you guys and the family as well.

Doing great Greg how are you guys? Come down to the park this summer and hang out with us!
 

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WA State Patrol is using a combo of Exploders and Chevy PPV's along with Chargers. Last summer I was filling up the boat and a WSP pulled in with a new PPV. I hit him up as he was close to my size and asked him about his opinions of his PPV. He said what has already been posted, loved the acceleration, handling, durability but his 6"3" frame didn't fit very well, the car was to narrow. He also said it does great burnout, was very controllable in a power slide and flat out hauled ass and was light years ahead of the Crown Vic POS he was used to. He did like the shoulder room of the Crown Vic better though.

I recall having the same conversation in the mid 90's with a WASP, he loved the Caprice with the 275HP LT1 versus the limp wristed Crown Vic. The Caprice was probably the best all around LEO vehicle made. I would put money on one moping the floor with any Dodge offering from the 70's.
 

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WA State Patrol is using a combo of Exploders and Chevy PPV's along with Chargers. Last summer I was filling up the boat and a WSP pulled in with a new PPV. I hit him up as he was close to my size and asked him about his opinions of his PPV. He said what has already been posted, loved the acceleration, handling, durability but his 6"3" frame didn't fit very well, the car was to narrow. He also said it does great burnout, was very controllable in a power slide and flat out hauled ass and was light years ahead of the Crown Vic POS he was used to. He did like the shoulder room of the Crown Vic better though.

I recall having the same conversation in the mid 90's with a WASP, he loved the Caprice with the 275HP LT1 versus the limp wristed Crown Vic. The Caprice was probably the best all around LEO vehicle made. I would put money on one moping the floor with any Dodge offering from the 70's.

I had a 9C1 Caprice I bought from the CHP. Cops I talked to told me that car was better than even the modern Crown Vic's.
 

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WA State Patrol is using a combo of Exploders and Chevy PPV's along with Chargers. Last summer I was filling up the boat and a WSP pulled in with a new PPV. I hit him up as he was close to my size and asked him about his opinions of his PPV. He said what has already been posted, loved the acceleration, handling, durability but his 6"3" frame didn't fit very well, the car was to narrow. He also said it does great burnout, was very controllable in a power slide and flat out hauled ass and was light years ahead of the Crown Vic POS he was used to. He did like the shoulder room of the Crown Vic better though.

I recall having the same conversation in the mid 90's with a WASP, he loved the Caprice with the 275HP LT1 versus the limp wristed Crown Vic. The Caprice was probably the best all around LEO vehicle made. I would put money on one moping the floor with any Dodge offering from the 70's.

EVERYONE loved the later model Caprices with the LT1 motor (the original Caprices (whales) were POS). That thing was bad azz. Fast, handled well, roomy. Downside was it was long and the turning radius was crap. The Crown Vic replaced it and people were NOT happy.
 

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CHP went away from the Explorers, and other agencies are following, because at high speed the steering is an issue. I don't don't if it is a "feel" issue or a stability issue. I was told this first hand.

Simple question (yes or no)....Would you feel comfortable doing 120+MPH in a Ford Explorer?

I wouldn't.
 

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So you're saying it's a sedan with an SUV body?

How do they do that with unibody construction?

That's a fact jack. The Taures and the Explorer are identical from the floor pan down (same power train, unibody platform, suspensions). The "superstructure" is different.

We have a little but of everything in our fleet, just depends on what wins the state bid for those years.
 

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That's a fact jack. The Taures and the Explorer are identical from the floor pan down (same power train, unibody platform, suspensions). The "superstructure" is different.

We have a little but of everything in our fleet, just depends on what wins the state bid for those years.

The public versions are also, just tuning differences. It's not like they started as vastly different vehicles that are modded for police use by plopping an SUV body on a sedan structure. That was sorta my point.
 

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That's a fact jack. The Taures and the Explorer are identical from the floor pan down (same power train, unibody platform, suspensions). The "superstructure" is different.

We have a little but of everything in our fleet, just depends on what wins the state bid for those years.

And this is why nearly all crossovers are turds. They are just taller and heavier cars.
 

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And this is why nearly all crossovers are turds. They are just taller and heavier cars.

They fill a nice niche though. That ?just? gives you a lot of interior room with ride and handling that doesn't feel like a truck.
 

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Crossover = tall wagon [emoji4]
 

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Crossover = tall wagon [emoji4]

Yup. The joke is on them. I like wagons though.

I still don't understand the BMW X6 and the Benz "GLE coupe". The most useless crossover/SUV things there are..but that is just me.
 

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They fill a nice niche though. That ?just? gives you a lot of interior room with ride and handling that doesn't feel like a truck.

That is true, some of the people I know with them can't understand why the mileage is crappy though when they were told it would be so great. You bought a big heavy car!
 

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Yup. The joke is on them. I like wagons though.

I still don't understand the BMW X6 and the Benz "GLE coupe". The most useless crossover/SUV things there are..but that is just me.

We had an X6 as a loaner when my wife's car was in for service. It had no redeeming value.
 

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Out ran one of those on foot when I was teenager back in the mid 80's. I was caring a BB gun rifle with a scope down the street and some one called the cops, I decided to have some fun with them. I made it home no problem from about a half mile away in a large housing track. Total adrenaline rush, hopping fences and hedges, rolling under cars when the patrol cars rolled by with spot lights then running like a MOFO when the spotlight wasn't close. Would have sucked to be caught, but wasn't.

We used to all the Sacramento Sheriffs Department cop-ters :p "pigs in space". That big ass spot light was great, could see it coming from a mile away.
 

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Yup. The joke is on them. I like wagons though.

I still don't understand the BMW X6 and the Benz "GLE coupe". The most useless crossover/SUV things there are..but that is just me.

Yeah I don't understand America's general disdain for wagons at all.

IMHO history will not be kind to the X6 and the like.

A massive 4-seat tall hatch dealio with brute strength and massive tires to help it overcome the laws of physics...might sound good on paper but they're already becoming laughingstocks among true enthusiasts.

I do find it interesting that whatever one German MFR does, all the rest soon follow. Like sheep off a cliff... [emoji12]
 

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Saw this this morning parked in front of a local watering hole.
 
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