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I had to laugh at the report of another one over "Latin America." That is a pretty broad area. Mexico? Nicaragua? Argentina? It's damned near the whole hemisphere! That news media is certainly on it! :rolleyes:
 

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Why would it have to be captured mid air? No reason at all for that. Simply make a pass with the 20 mm cannon..... then monitor. If a second pass needs to be done to slowly drop it.. so be it. Let it slowly fall, then recover. Seems pretty damn simple to me.
When you stick a pressurized birthday balloon with a pin, doesn't it gradually deflate ? Not that I've ever witnessed unless it was highly deflated to begin with. This balloon should not be confused with some weather balloon you see that are initially only filled sufficiently enough to achieve lift off and do not seem internally pressurized.
The idea being, as the external air pressure decreases, the balloon continues to expand. Same reason a diver that breathes pressurized tank air, can hold his breath as he ascends, else his lungs explode.
This balloon is obviously under inflation pressure, there's no visible wrinkles. I doubt you could punch a 20 mm cannon hole and it not resulting in it exploding, but I admit I'm no expert on balloons.

I read the balloon was at 65,000' and the F22 was at 58,000', I've read an F22 can reach 65,000', but I'm not sure of fuel load or armament weight at test time or if that's even true ?

Would it have worked ? Your guess is as good as mine.
 

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When you stick a pressurized birthday balloon with a pin, doesn't it gradually deflate ? Not that I've ever witnessed unless it was highly deflated to begin with. This balloon should not be confused with some weather balloon you see that are initially only filled sufficiently enough to achieve lift off and do not seem internally pressurized.
The idea being, as the external air pressure decreases, the balloon continues to expand. Same reason a diver that breathes pressurized tank air, can hold his breath as he ascends, else his lungs explode.
This balloon is obviously under inflation pressure, there's no visible wrinkles. I doubt you could punch a 20 mm cannon hole and it not resulting in it exploding, but I admit I'm no expert on balloons.

I read the balloon was at 65,000' and the F22 was at 58,000', I've read an F22 can reach 65,000', but I'm not sure of fuel load or armament weight at test time or if that's even true ?

Would it have worked ? Your guess is as good as mine.
The F15 has a ceiling of 65,000 ft. And has a 20m cannon as well. Also it’s said the balloon had a number of smaller internal ballons inside. So what’s the issue. Right tool for the job
 

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The F15 has a ceiling of 65,000 ft. And has a 20m cannon as well. Also it’s said the balloon had a number of smaller internal ballons inside. So what’s the issue. Right tool for the job
It blew the fuck up in a puff of white smoke when it was hit, I didn't notice any flames or other smaller balloons.
"It's also said", well there you have it, you can always bank on that. Was this known before it blew up or somebody said afterwards ?
Who's that somebody ?
 

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It blew the fuck up in a puff of white smoke when it was hit, I didn't notice any flames or other smaller balloons.
"It's also said", well there you have it, you can always bank on that. Was this known before it blew up or somebody said afterwards ?
Who's that somebod
 

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The debris field is there. It’s in only 47 ft of water.
It will(should) be recovered. It’s well within SCUBA dive limitations. Heck, there are USN divers who would free dive that. And only minimal, rather benign, recovery information will be released. That’s not a bad thing and to be expected. Maintaining debris field perimeter security is much easier at sea than it is on land.
 

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Should have pulled a F-15 Streak Eagle out of a museum somewhere and gone after that balloon. The Streak Eagle got to 98k feet and coasted to 103k.

Since you could cut that back some, put the 20mm cannon back in (the SE was stripped to the basics for those records) and hose that ballon down with 20mm as you go right past it.

We have the tools and the talent, we just don’t have the politicians with the balls or the brains.
 

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Reports indicate, previous fighter aircraft have attempted to take down similar helium balloon platforms. They did not achieve the desired results with bullet type projectiles. No indication how well they were ‘hosed down’. Although, that sounds like a worthy application.

We still have a strong military. They do, very unfortunately, have to deal daily with various woke issues. Hopefully, it is only a factor of the current administration.
 

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Ching Chong Fu says since it took us 50 years to finally catch them with their secretive balloons the size of a building that now they’re going to drop off elephants and see how long it takes our military to figure out sum ting is fishy. Figure a couple decades probably.
 

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Chinese spy balloons over US during Trump admin 'discovered after' he left office: senior Biden official ;)🤣

Information suggesting that Chinese spy balloons traveled over the continental United States during the Trump administration was "discovered after" former President Donald Trump left office, a senior administration official told Fox News.

A defense official on Saturday said Chinese spy balloons briefly traveled over the United States at least three times during the Trump administration.
 

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Chinese spy balloons over US during Trump admin 'discovered after' he left office: senior Biden official ;)🤣

Information suggesting that Chinese spy balloons traveled over the continental United States during the Trump administration was "discovered after" former President Donald Trump left office, a senior administration official told Fox News.

A defense official on Saturday said Chinese spy balloons briefly traveled over the United States at least three times during the Trump administration. HONK! HONK!
Fixed it for you. 🤡🌎
 

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Didnt read all of the replies but I will venture this, that Trump would have it grounded one way or the other the minute it was safe to do so, could be worng but I think not!!
To let that info seeking baloon cross the entire US (and some fairly strategic spots) is the doing of the POTUS period, he can lie like usual and place blame but I dont believe it.
Can you imagine the repsonse of China if situation were reversed, OMG, all hell would break out
NSF
 

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LOL, yeah i love the bs trump story,


So why did the public not see these 3 balloons when the public alerted the press of this one in 2023 in every state it flew over? hmmmm facts
 

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So, now the FBI is in possession of the debris, why not the military or the spy experts the CIA? Since when is the FBI involved building/manufacturing spying equipment to be the experts to do the investigation? I bet, they find it's a nothing burger, and will be swept under the rug, what ever that debris is.
 

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LOL, yeah i love the bs trump story,


So why did the public not see these 3 balloons when the public alerted the press of this one in 2023 in every state it flew over? hmmmm facts
Consider the source..senior Biden official🙄
 

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So, now the FBI is in possession of the debris, why not the military or the spy experts the CIA? Since when is the FBI involved building/manufacturing spying equipment to be the experts to do the investigation? I bet, they find it's a nothing burger, and will be swept under the rug, what ever that debris is.
I also found it odd that the FBI was taking possession of the debris. Actually, it may not be true. Seems doubtful. I'm not a supporter of the current administration. But, I'm seeing what appears to be numerous Political Swords being thrown over this balloon fiasco.
 

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Just saw a guy reporting live, on FOX News, from a small boat bouncing around in choppy seas, as they were being escorted by the USCG away from the recovery area. He said they were told they must remain 20 miles away. That means back on shore. Good! Stay the F away and let the USN do their work. They can do it well.
 

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So, now the FBI is in possession of the debris, why not the military or the spy experts the CIA? Since when is the FBI involved building/manufacturing spying equipment to be the experts to do the investigation? I bet, they find it's a nothing burger, and will be swept under the rug, what ever that debris is.
I thought that by law the CIA cannot operate inside the US. That’s the FBIs job?
 

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EMP capabilities are a likely major concern. If found aboard this balloon, the shit will, and should, hit the fan.
 

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LOL, yeah i love the bs trump story,


So why did the public not see these 3 balloons when the public alerted the press of this one in 2023 in every state it flew over? hmmmm facts
Likely because the Roswell New Mexico Alien crew was sending weather reports out for camo cover!
 

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China’s secret test was to see if our F22 could take out a ballon at 60,000 feet. Yes it could.

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Mao wants the debris to return to China, haha. She insist it was a private aircraft. What private aircraft would be allowed to fly out of China without permits, FFS? Thing was like 200 feet in dia, should have had a transponder for air safety. Of course, China never alerted the US FAA that their private craft lost heading towards Alaska. 🤣
She's fucked in her head, just shows the mindset of Chinese thinking.

China wants its downed spy aircraft back, saying it 'does not belong to the US'​

Sure, it doesn't belong to the US, but ended there.:p
 
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