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Am I the only one that is a bit jealous of @Mandelon for being able to go to burning man with just a buddy and not the wives? I'm a fat middle aged loser and even with that in mind, there is no way in hell my wife would let me go to the middle of the desert where there are a bunch of skinny drugged out half naked or naked women.
 
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I certainly don't pretend to be an expert, nor am I a weirdo burner. I don't wear a tutu. I enjoy people watching, especially the g string clad topless chicks riding bikes and dancing. I enjoy the creations made by these artists. The absurdity of it all. Being out in the playa at night with all the lights and sounds and music. It is just crazy.

Burning Man has never been about the environment. It started out with guns being encouraged, blowing shit up and setting it on fire is really the origin of this group. To keep relevant it seems they need to act more environmentally friendly. Certainly there is a portion of the crowd that is of that environmental ilk. But if one is truly about the environment they they should not travel at all.

There is definitely a loud and proud gay presence. They are pretty much harmless and having fun. You just give an eye roll and look a different direction. Mostly I find they are pretty normal people out to cut loose and have a good time. Snark and humor is pretty much the rule of the day. Everyone is quite friendly and helpful. I'm glad I booked out when I did though. Not sure I will go again for a while, maybe never. I think a weekend is enough time, though, at least for me.
 
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No offense to those that enjoy it :)
 
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If you look into the history of burning man it was just s few friends heading to the beach for the winter solstice , of course every year someone would bring a new person and it was getting big enough that a permit was going to be required to continue . The decision to move it to the desert was made and now you have this big commercialized event that probably doesn’t include any of the original cast members.
This has been on my bucket list for quite a while ( mainly because I want to build a humongous big wheel that seats 20 where one child normally sits, 30 foot front tire) I am starting to see it as another party event that gets a bit further from its intended meaning every year. Not a fan of hypocritical people who will party all week next to diesel generators ( for lights and music) and then the rest of the year telling us were killing the environment.
I have a couple customers that had gone for probably a decade or more as big group from the area here and I was amazed at the amount of planning and spending they would do for this event. This guy was a state worker probably upper mgmt and roughly my age at that time and he would tell me stories that almost all ended with him saying “ its my one time a year when I can drop some molly and not give a fuk about anything “ when that first came out of his mouth I was beyond flabbergasted, blown away as he didn’t look or act the type! He and his buddies would send down 2 loaded semis full of concert speakers and equipment with technicians a week before he would head down there. I know they were spending up wards of 100k for the little week in the desert.
At the end of the day I would rather go people watch at burning man then ANY biker event full of half naked skanks doing drugs and dancing !!
 
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Mandelon said:
I was about ten feet to the right of the guy that filmed the yellow Ram breaking out. I have similar video. I'll work on posting it later today. The truck and trailer in the foreground are stuck. A 25ish foot double axle toyhauler and a 4x4 F-150 but he was rolling street tires. He was hopelessly stuck..right in the middle of ring road. Also blocking the entrance to the exit road from the right side. He had tried carpets and tarps to no avail.

Conditions now are vastly better, the mud does dry out in a day or two. At work we call this oil based mud. It sticks. It doesn't wash off. It clumps and becomes a heavy blob. After watching the TRX guy I was pretty worried about getting out. If the rain was going to continue, conditions would only get worse. We watched and waited to see if things got better. And honestly the did get better, but not much.

Cell service is very limited. I could get a bar or two for a few seconds and then they would be gone. So a text here, a text there was about all that was available. My wife finally got a weather update through and it was for more rain. Potential showers and thunderstorms with lightning. That really helped me choose to go for the escape. With heavy rain, things would deteriorate rapidly out there.

It is not like a refugee camp, it is still a party. Sound camps and honestly other camps were playing music and hosting parties non stop. There's tons of food, water and free drinks literally everywhere. If you didn't have to be back for work or other obligations staying and living it up would be fine. I have a business to run and really wanted to get back. We had food, water, propane, a nice trailer, a generator, plenty of gas. We could have stayed another week.

Deteriorating conditions to me meant the lack of porto service. Once the shitters get full, things go sideways! In my mind I'm thinking there's going to be no delivery of water, no pump service, no supplemental deliveries, etc. If the weather gets worse and colder there will be many unhappy people. So those reasons are why we chanced it out. The yellow truck left at pretty much the soupiest time he could. In hindsight I think we did the right thing. It seems our worst case weather scenario did not pan out. It rained some but not to the apocalyptic worst case I conjured up. Either way, I wanted to leave Saturday anyway. Waiting to leave from the playa even when it is dry sucks. The exodus can take hours.

All those 70,000 people, all the equipment, materials, recreational vehicles, hi lifts, trucks, porto potties and trash haulers all have to leave out of the same two lane driveway. Granted this is done of a course of weeks, but as you can imagine it is like putting sand through an hourglass. It goes through but it takes a long time. And if there's stuck vehicles clogging up the flow it will take even longer.

I tend to try and leave super early in the morning to beat the majority of the crowds out. 5:00 am Sunday would have been our time to go anyway. My friend doesn't have a job to get to, so he was hoping to stay later. The rain threw all that planning off anyway.

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Fuck-it, I’m down for an RDP caravan next year. Off-road toys and Trump flags with a side of mushrooms👍🏻
If it rains, we’ll pull out the stand-up jet skis and zip tie glow sticks to our dicks 💪🏻
 
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Deckin Around said:
Fuck-it, I’m down for an RDP caravan next year to. Off-road toys and Trump flags with a side of mushrooms👍🏻
If it rains, we’ll pull out the stand-up jet skis and zip tie glow sticks to our dicks 💪🏻
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Sounds like a great time!! Lol…only you will have to make the off-rod toys into art vehicles. Because only bikes or art vehicles are allowed as I understand it.
 
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Deckin Around said:
Fuck-it, I’m down for an RDP caravan next year. Off-road toys and Trump flags with a side of mushrooms👍🏻
If it rains, we’ll pull out the stand-up jet skis and zip tie glow sticks to our dicks 💪🏻
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I can see it now. Bunch of old fucks from rdp might look something like this. 😂

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Travmon said:
If you look into the history of burning man it was just s few friends heading to the beach for the winter solstice , of course every year someone would bring a new person and it was getting big enough that a permit was going to be required to continue . The decision to move it to the desert was made and now you have this big commercialized event that probably doesn’t include any of the original cast members.
This has been on my bucket list for quite a while ( mainly because I want to build a humongous big wheel that seats 20 where one child normally sits, 30 foot front tire) I am starting to see it as another party event that gets a bit further from its intended meaning every year. Not a fan of hypocritical people who will party all week next to diesel generators ( for lights and music) and then the rest of the year telling us were killing the environment.
I have a couple customers that had gone for probably a decade or more as big group from the area here and I was amazed at the amount of planning and spending they would do for this event. This guy was a state worker probably upper mgmt and roughly my age at that time and he would tell me stories that almost all ended with him saying “ its my one time a year when I can drop some molly and not give a fuk about anything “ when that first came out of his mouth I was beyond flabbergasted, blown away as he didn’t look or act the type! He and his buddies would send down 2 loaded semis full of concert speakers and equipment with technicians a week before he would head down there. I know they were spending up wards of 100k for the little week in the desert.
At the end of the day I would rather go people watch at burning man then ANY biker event full of half naked skanks doing drugs and dancing !!
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I heard the original name was op6c
 
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rivermobster said:
@Mandelon

Thanks So much for the Awesome write up. Sounds like an epic adventure!

Kinna like going to the river in the 70's. Sex and drugs and rock & roll.

Yep. If you were there, you know. 😎
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Did you mean to say the 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s?
 
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WYRD said:
Did you mean to say the 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s?
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Negative ghost rider...

The 70's was a Whole different vibe. I suppose I should clarify by saying, in Parker.

Ski Naked t-shirts were the rage back then, and it wasn't just a catch phrase.

No Fat Chicks signs were Everywhere, mostly behind the couches that lined the shores on the beach!

There were people fucking and sucking on boat decks in broad daylight.

The drinks were strong and the drugs were uncut.

After the 70's, it very much settled down.

I'm glad I'm old. It was Good times back then fo sure. 😎
 
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Negative ghost rider...

The 70's was a Whole different vibe. I suppose I should clarify by saying, in Parker.

Ski Naked t-shirts were the rage back then, and it wasn't just a catch phrase.

No Fat Chicks signs were Everywhere, mostly behind the couches that lined the shores on the beach!

There were people fucking and sucking on boat decks in broad daylight.

The drinks were strong and the drugs were uncut.

After the 70's, it very much settled down.

I'm glad I'm old. It was Good times back then fo sure. 😎
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I think it was you that settled down as you got older...all those things and more were very much in play if you knew where to hang 👍🏻🍻
 
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Dunerking said:
Unfortunately I was never able to make the El Mirage trips. Been trying to line it up with Scott and Paula and head out to Dove Springs.
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Your name Josh? Joey Dickies wife is one of my adopted daughters. Talked to my brother.
 
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WYRD said:
I think it was you that settled down as you got older...all those things and more were very much in play if you knew where to hang 👍🏻🍻
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Everything moved up to Copper Canyon, once the bridge got popular.

Crazy Horse was fun, but no where near as crazy as Sundance back in the day.
 
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500bbc said:
That dumb fuck ranting is too fucking stupid to understand a dry LAKE BED getting WET is not crimate change...fucking imbecile..
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You don't understand the beauty of climate change.
It gets hotter: climate change
It gets colder: climate change
It gets drier: climate change
It gets wetter: climate change
It gets windier: climate change
It gets less windy: climate change

That said, the planet is getting hotter. Hard to dispute.
 
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Markus said:
You don't understand the beauty of climate change.
It gets hotter: climate change
It gets colder: climate change
It gets drier: climate change
It gets wetter: climate change
It gets windier: climate change
It gets less windy: climate change

That said, the planet is getting hotter. Hard to dispute.
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All true, except the planet getting hotter...
 
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Your name Josh? Joey Dickies wife is one of my adopted daughters. Talked to my brother.
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Yes sir…Jillian and Joey are amazing people. Sadly they just moved to Georgia. They are trying it for a year and if it all works out they will sell the house here and buy out there.
 
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Take 100,000 people and put them in one of the most remote deserts in the United States. All with limited provisions, flimsy shelter, and with nothing but crappy dirt roads in and out of the place...... Then have a major desert storm hit.... What could possibly go wrong?
 
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FreeBird236 said:
Whata you mean, there's a two square mile area of Phoenix that set all kinds of heat records this year.
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Urban setting, black asphalt, reflective glass, reflective roofs, traffic etc. all contributory but localized.
Used to be able to easily access high temp records on weather sites to confirm, not so easy anymore for some reason.;)

Found a little;
Summers in Parker can be dangerously hot, with highs in June, July, August, and September remaining in the 100 to 110 °F (37.8 to 43.3 °C) range, days over 115 °F (46.1 °C) or even 120 °F (48.9 °C) are not rare.

April and May both average 90 to 100 °F (32.2 to 37.8 °C) daytime highs. Even the month of October has an average high of 90.0 °F (32.2 °C). The all-time highest recorded temperature in Parker was 127 °F (52.8 °C), which occurred on July 7, 1905. This was, at the time, the all-time record high temperature in Arizona history until Lake Havasu City reached 128 °F (53.3 °C) on June 29, 1994.

1905...Had to be the burro farts...
 
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MMGW is nothing but a con to confiscate your money.

Urban Heat — Not a Myth, And Worst Where It’s Wet

A new F&ES-led study quantifies for the first time the primary causes of the “urban heat island” (UHI) effect, a common phenomenon that makes the world’s urban areas significantly warmer than surrounding countryside and may increase health risks for city residents.
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Seems like you could make some $$ with a trash/clean up business, I'm sure some burners would pay to have their mess cleaned. This would help with Reno getting trashed from all the garbage being dumped as they leave. 80,000 people leave a lot of trash, bikes, etc.
 
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500bbc said:
Urban setting, black asphalt, reflective glass, reflective roofs, traffic etc. all contributory but localized.
Used to be able to easily access high temp records on weather sites to confirm, not so easy anymore for some reason.;)

Found a little;
Summers in Parker can be dangerously hot, with highs in June, July, August, and September remaining in the 100 to 110 °F (37.8 to 43.3 °C) range, days over 115 °F (46.1 °C) or even 120 °F (48.9 °C) are not rare.

April and May both average 90 to 100 °F (32.2 to 37.8 °C) daytime highs. Even the month of October has an average high of 90.0 °F (32.2 °C). The all-time highest recorded temperature in Parker was 127 °F (52.8 °C), which occurred on July 7, 1905. This was, at the time, the all-time record high temperature in Arizona history until Lake Havasu City reached 128 °F (53.3 °C) on June 29, 1994.

1905...Had to be the burro farts...
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It always makes me smile a little when I see a record from the Pheonix area that doesn't get broken and it's from 1913 and I think, with nothing but dirt and wood, that must have been one hot bitch of a day.
 
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