Arson or lithium batteries?

[FROGMAN524]

 

[done]

They usually do not come with lithium batteries......At least all the trailers i bought have lead acid, Maybe high end Motor homes.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Supposedly started from a trash fire and in that case I’d have to say homeless encampment may have been to blame.

 

[ElectroNautical]

Above five or so amp-hours nobody puts Lithium Ion batteries in anything but electric cars anymore, Lithium Ferro-Phosphate (LiFePO4 or "LFP") batteries rule the roost now because they don't (can't) catch fire. Not quite the power density of Li-Ion (so you won't see them in a Tesla), but 1000x safer.

https://diysolarforum.com/threads/can-lifepo4-batteries-combust-in-thermal-runaway-event.999/

 

[Flying_Lavey]

They usually do not come with lithium batteries......At least all the trailers i bought have lead acid, Maybe high end Motor homes.

Most RV's with solar systems are coming with them now. In the last 2 or 3 years has been the big push to the change (my brother and parents both bought 5th wheels within the last 2 years so we have discussed the various options and all a lot). It might be the LFP batteries that ElectroNautical is referring to, Im not too sure, but there are MANY coming with factory installed upgraded battery systems.

 

[ElectroNautical]

Most RV's with solar systems are coming with them now. In the last 2 or 3 years has been the big push to the change (my brother and parents both bought 5th wheels within the last 2 years so we have discussed the various options and all a lot). It might be the LFP batteries that ElectroNautical is referring to, Im not too sure, but there are MANY coming with factory installed upgraded battery systems.

Yes, everything except electric vehicles is LFP today, and you can buy them now for under $2 per KWh even on Amazon. Only minor problem is you can't recharge them in ambient temperatures are below about 35 degrees F, but the temperature sensor in the integrated BMS protects the cells if you try. https://www.amazon.com/Wattcycle-LiFePO4-Lithium-Battery-Built/dp/B0CPL8MVN8

 

[sintax]

worth noting that the LIFEPO4 really does not have the heat / combustion issues that the LI-ION batteries have

i'm voting arson, someone jumped the fence at an RV dealer in san berdoo and lit a bunch on fire recently

 

[ElectroNautical]

Supposedly started from a trash fire and in that case I’d have to say homeless encampment may have been to blame.

Not likely, I'm familiar with the area. Far more likely is a leaking propane tank in an unventilated locker (typical among RV owners) but the owner or business would then be liable. Easier to blame a 'trash fire'...

 

[JB in so cal]

Possible homeless was seen on CCTV and mgr was contacted and then another call 10 minutes later saying fire dept needed him there

 

[ElectroNautical]

worth noting that the LIFEPO4 really does not have the heat / combustion issues that the LI-ION batteries have

i'm voting arson, someone jumped the fence at an RV dealer in san berdoo and lit a bunch on fire recently

 

[FreeBird236]

My buddy just lost his MH to a defective propane refrigerator.

 

[bilz]

Many homeless in the area. They had just had one removed in the days prior. Most of their trailers don't have batteries until they are sold.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Not likely, I'm familiar with the area. Far more likely is a leaking propane tank in an unventilated locker (typical among RV owners) but the owner or business would then be liable. Easier to blame a 'trash fire'...

I believe these were all new RV's. Most dealers don't fill the propane tanks until sale. Too many liabilities with such.

 

[LazyLavey]

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hate to sound skeptical .... but, Yes we're insured!

 

[lbhsbz]

I'd lean more towards the fact that all these pieces of shit are put together by dudes with both teeth (one in their mouth and the other in their pocket) armed with a box full of scotch-loks