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7 yr old Elienisse Zoe Diaz Jr Drag Racer Dies in Crash.

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Was reading this article yesterday. Very sad deal. Looked like she really loved what she was doing , but still very sad. RIP little one.
 

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RIP. The way I look at it, they could get hurt racing go karts, riding dirt bikes, or football. Both my nephews race Jrs. The younger one won last weekend in Bakersfield. My brother is pretty meticulous when it comes to prep and safety but shit can happen and we all know the risks.
Definitely not at 80+ mph car either…. Yet

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RIP. The way I look at it, they could get hurt racing go karts, riding dirt bikes, or football. Both my nephews race Jrs. The younger one won last weekend in Bakersfield. My brother is pretty meticulous when it comes to prep and safety but shit can happen and we all know the risks.
Definitely not at 80+ mph car either…. Yet

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Yeah, I get it. I was never sheltered and just lived as a kid. Crashed a John Deere snowmobile into a telephone pole in 3rd grade going full out cracking a bunch of ribs etc. Broke my arm teying to break a mule at about 6 or 7 years old. Skewered my side at 15yrs doing a backflip over a fence skiing and lost so much blood they weren't sure I'd make it; and on and on and on. Loved every minute of it though!

It's just sad. I really feel for the fam as you know they will get called out for not being good parents.
 

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At her age she wasn't anywhere close to 90mph.

I understand the drive, passion and thrill that comes with drag racing.

RIP lil speed racer, God speed


Gotcha. I just saw 85 and assumed those things went that fast. Sounds like the younger kids go much slower.
 

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Gotcha. I just saw 85 and assumed those things went that fast. Sounds like the younger kids go much slower.
If I remember correctly 7yr are about 40mph. I have my thoughts on what happened but I'll keep it to myself, for now at least. I'm not blaming anyone BTW, just a tragic accident
 

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How does something like this play out from a legal standpoint? Does someone like CPS come after you for negligence or child endangerment? I guess I never even considered something like this when my boy was racing flat track. He could definitely been killed doing that. Poor family though. Dad must be in total anguish over this. I can’t even imagine how they must feel, and all the friends and family at the track too.
 

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How does something like this play out from a legal standpoint? Does someone like CPS come after you for negligence or child endangerment? I guess I never even considered something like this when my boy was racing flat track. He could definitely been killed doing that. Poor family though. Dad must be in total anguish over this. I can’t even imagine how they must feel, and all the friends and family at the track too.

Well said.

So many questions. 😔😔
 

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A parent probably also a racer, and the little girl probably wanted to be as well. I wanted to get my kids into it, but with three within 5 years, I'd have had to roll like a Jr JFR. Never really thought of the risks like that, cage and gear.

I know I still get a bit scared watching my youngest wrestle. He's big, but I was bigger when I broke my neck...I see what he does, or is done to him, and it worries me.

Things can go wrong as a parent, sometimes tragically. Really a sad event.
R.I.P.
Race In Paradise
 

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When our son was 5 he wanted to race motocross we bought him a motorcycle and started riding he took to it right away and begged to race we went to a couple local races just to watch and he still wanted to race so I sat down with him and told him racing is dangerous and he could get killed and I asked him if he knew what that meant he told me what he thought it meant and my wife and I were good with his explanation so we went racing and he did pretty good till one day he said he was done racing and just wanted to go to the desert
 

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R.I.P. little one…

I saw a post about her earlier and lots of people were flaming the parents in the comments, some of which were even car guys. The only thing the parents are guilty of is letting their daughter chase her dream. Unfortunately this will be something they regret for the rest of their lives.

As parents we walk a fine line of keeping our kids safe but letting them have the best childhood possible, as scary as action sports might be, a plane could fall out of the sky and hit the house while they’re on their tablet.

Life just isn’t fair…
 

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I ran karts at a fairly high level from about 9 to 17. Then barber Dodge for a few years and another two years in a midget. Nothing really phased me or the other kids I ran with.

Knowing all the close calls I had, concrete walls in a midget being the worst. I cannot imagine putting my daughter out there and being real calm. Not sure how my parents seemed cool about it.
 

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R.I.P. little one…

I saw a post about her earlier and lots of people were flaming the parents in the comments, some of which were even car guys. The only thing the parents are guilty of is letting their daughter chase her dream. Unfortunately this will be something they regret for the rest of their lives.

As parents we walk a fine line of keeping our kids safe but letting them have the best childhood possible, as scary as action sports might be, a plane could fall out of the sky and hit the house while they’re on their tablet.

Life just isn’t fair…
That's bullshit, those parents did the best they could, wish I could give them a hug right now
 

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Damn this makes me think twice about wanting to get my son into it. I’ve been looking at new and used cars online as he turns 5 in August and can start doing solo passes.
 

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R.I.P. little one…

I saw a post about her earlier and lots of people were flaming the parents in the comments, some of which were even car guys. The only thing the parents are guilty of is letting their daughter chase her dream. Unfortunately this will be something they regret for the rest of their lives.

As parents we walk a fine line of keeping our kids safe but letting them have the best childhood possible, as scary as action sports might be, a plane could fall out of the sky and hit the house while they’re on their tablet.

Life just isn’t fair…
Such a tragedy. RIP young one. This raceway is literally in my daughter’s backyard. About 1 1/2 miles away.
 

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Damn this makes me think twice about wanting to get my son into it. I’ve been looking at new and used cars online as he turns 5 in August and can start doing solo passes.
Don't 2nd guess it, please. I will tell you what I think contributed to her death. Look at the pic of her in the car, she is swimming in there (if thats the car she was driving), it's common practice to get a car that they can grow into, some can afford a new/different car every year or 2, it's not cheap and why most get a car that they can run for more than a year. I figure she moved around in there a lot during the crash and sustained injuries as a result.
 

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Don't 2nd guess it, please. I will tell you what I think contributed to her death. Look at the pic of her in the car, she is swimming in there (if thats the car she was driving), it's common practice to get a car that they can grow into, some can afford a new/different car every year or 2, it's not cheap and why most get a car that they can run for more than a year. I figure she moved around in there a lot during the crash and sustained injuries as a result.
Understood my kids ride dirt bikes Stacyc etc. I don’t want my son going through what I did with motocross and the broken bones. So I want them in a cage. Drag racing has always held an interest to me and something my wife has agreed too. I would build a car for my son let him run it for 1-2 years then pass that to my daughter when she turned 5 and upgrade him.
 

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The last F1 death was over 10 years ago in cars that do over 200mph. Sounds like these small dragsters need better safety protocolsset in place. I'm sure stuff will be implemented now due to this.
Please do some more research. The junior dragster program has an excellent safety record and has strict protocols about age appropriate speeds and ETs.

Without further information, none of us know what happened, and it's unfair to pass judgement without any knowledge.

The accident was in Florida, by the way.
 

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Please do some more research. The junior dragster program has an excellent safety record and has strict protocols about age appropriate speeds and ETs.

Without further information, none of us know what happened, and it's unfair to pass judgement without any knowledge.

The accident was in Florida, by the way.

I'm not saying that the Jr Dragster program isn't ran well. In this case, if a little girl is getting killed doing 40mph (someome said this category was around 40mph), I'd assume there is an issue with safety protocols or at least with this particular car. It's up to not only the parents, but the track safety teams to check and double check this stuff. Maybe something was missed and this was a one in a million accident.
 
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Not sure I'd want my little girl doing almost 90mph in a dragster. I don't have a kid, so I really can't say how I feel about it. What say you?


RIP little lady.


Don't want to speculate, but i think the kids that age are in the 13.90 class. Trap speeds are under 50mph if so.

Horrible to hear of accidents like this, it's in the same vein as the young girl who was killed at the MX track a few months back.

Hope they figure out what happened and how to prevent it, the sport seems pretty safe but something had to have been amiss
 

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Understood my kids ride dirt bikes Stacyc etc. I don’t want my son going through what I did with motocross and the broken bones. So I want them in a cage. Drag racing has always held an interest to me and something my wife has agreed too. I would build a car for my son let him run it for 1-2 years then pass that to my daughter when she turned 5 and upgrade him.
Right there with you. My boys 5&7 do all the same and want to race moto but after my career in it with all my injuries and all my friends paralyzed and dead from it I’m like hell no. I know the reality of racing. We will continue to trail ride for fun and camp at the desert. I’m building two rzr 200’s to go racing. I love the idea of a cage 🤣
 

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Didn't watch the vid...(something in my head hates watching videos of kids I know recently passed.)

As @rrrr said, there are no details of the crash. People on other sites are flaming the parents, and some here even seem to question the safety and such. The chassis tend to be very safe. Structurally built to standards probably much higher than the youth RzR's I'd think. One thing I always thought of was the tracks themselves. They are designed for full size cars. The surrounding support vehicles and such...think about hitch height for instance, or trailer tongues.

I'm sure many things don't seem like possibilities or risks, until they're seen. I feel bad for the families. Not just of the little girl, but really all those who were there that day. It's not just a "bad feeling", being on the track the day of a fatality. It's a feeling that you never forget, a lump or stone you feel in your gut at times when you go back out. You swallow it down, but it's still there:(
 

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I know there have been crashes but I do believe this is the first fatality
First one I have heard of, can't imagine what could have possibly happened. Good friends Sons (X3) all raced Jr. Dragster and all went to Indy every year, one of them races Pro Stock now, even the crashes are super rare.
 

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Don't 2nd guess it, please. I will tell you what I think contributed to her death. Look at the pic of her in the car, she is swimming in there (if thats the car she was driving), it's common practice to get a car that they can grow into, some can afford a new/different car every year or 2, it's not cheap and why most get a car that they can run for more than a year. I figure she moved around in there a lot during the crash and sustained injuries as a result.

So I'm curious, I thought the cars (chassis) were all the same size, but the engines were tuned for the different age classes? Sounds like the smaller racers can get smaller chassis, is that correct?
 

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So I'm curious, I thought the cars (chassis) were all the same size, but the engines were tuned for the different age classes? Sounds like the smaller racers can get smaller chassis, is that correct?
They make smaller cars but it's not a requirement to build a car to the kid that way parents can buy/build a car that they can run for a few years as the kid grows otherwise it can make an expensive sport even more expensive. I'm not saying that's what happened here but the pic of her in the car shows a lot of room for her.
 

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They make smaller cars but it's not a requirement to build a car to the kid that way parents can buy/build a car that they can run for a few years as the kid grows otherwise it can make an expensive sport even more expensive. I'm not saying that's what happened here but the pic of her in the car shows a lot of room for her.
I've seen some that they did an "insert" type deal in the cockpit. Don't know how common that was though. Harness mounting and applications were pretty stringent too, but that may also depend on tracks and such.
 

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So I'm curious, I thought the cars (chassis) were all the same size, but the engines were tuned for the different age classes? Sounds like the smaller racers can get smaller chassis, is that correct?
We ran Jrs for 12 years, both kids from 8 to 18. Their first car was for the 8-9 class and was the same length and height but the interior was for a smaller kid. I then had chassis made that took them from 10 all the way to 18. Until they hit their "growth spurt" we used a sit up style seat that kept them tight in the belts. As they grew we switched to a lay down seat. The only kid I ever saw hurt was the fault of loose belts. I always belted my kids in personally and gave the "frog" in the center a tug before I started the engine. Even at 18, they would put the belts on but I ALWAYS checked. I am not saying that is what happened in this case but, I do recall seeing kids who loosened their own belts so that they could look over into the other lane to work the top end. I told my kids if I ever saw that, I would sell their car instantly. Given the age of the girl, I doubt she loosened her own belts. It is tragic but unfortunately almost always preventable. RIP little one.
 

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Right there with you. My boys 5&7 do all the same and want to race moto but after my career in it with all my injuries and all my friends paralyzed and dead from it I’m like hell no. I know the reality of racing. We will continue to trail ride for fun and camp at the desert. I’m building two rzr 200’s to go racing. I love the idea of a cage 🤣
Get them into desert racing then. Its more about them versus the terrain instead of them versus the other riders and jumps. FAR fewer injuries desert racing than on a Moto track.
 

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I was on a high level swim team from age 6-17. My parents never missed a swim meet in all that time. My first MX race was around 15. After the first one, neither parent was comfortable watching, for fear of me getting hurt. They never came to another one, but didn't ever discourage me from racing.
But having to show up in the pits in a fake woodsided Oldsmobile station wagon pulling a tiny 3 railed trailer was pretty embarrassing.
 

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Get them into desert racing then. Its more about them versus the terrain instead of them versus the other riders and jumps. FAR fewer injuries desert racing than on a Moto track.

I dunno man , I think desert racing a motorcycle has just as much, if not more potential for death and carnage! "Theres alotta hole in those deserts"....and Barb wire fence lines from sketchy squatters, random remnants of cattle gates, washed out trails that were fine the last time you flew thru there a month ago....etc.

Plus when you eat shit on the track, an EMT is there. In the desert, you lie there trying to breath and hope somebody finds you!
 

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I dunno man , I think desert racing a motorcycle has just as much, if not more potential for death and carnage! "Theres alotta hole in those deserts"....and Barb wire fence lines from sketchy squatters, random remnants of cattle gates, washed out trails that were fine the last time you flew thru there a month ago....etc.

Plus when you eat shit on the track, an EMT is there. In the desert, you lie there trying to breath and hope somebody finds you!
I know a ton of desert racers and plenty of motocross racers. Definitely fewer substantial injuries in the desert than the track. Other bikes hitting you or falling out of the sky from 20 to 30 feet up is what does the most damage. Seen soo many people crash at high speed in the desert but walk away just fine cause there was nobody else that was too close to add to the damage.
 

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That is shocking for me to hear.. I can’t even wrap my head around how someone gets killed in a cage on a drag strip at sub 50 mph?
The only injuries I ever saw at a Jr event were due to loose belts or not all 5 points being connected at the latch.
 

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Get them into desert racing then. Its more about them versus the terrain instead of them versus the other riders and jumps. FAR fewer injuries desert racing than on a Moto track.
I’ve done that too. The last Worcs race I did was at Hollister and the podium picture I have is myself, Kurt Kaselli and Nathan Woods. I’m the only one still standing sadly.
 
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