28' Speedster Twin 400's

[shueman]

Out of the mold this morning ... Mike Morales putting boat together ... should be ready by Monster Bash :thumbsup

Gelcoater put this design together ... he's finally getting the hang of this and might have a future ...

 

[Gelcoater]

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Man has quite the skill set. :thumbsup

White/Green stripe 400Rs on it?

 

[Gelcoater]

Last shot,the small parts (most of them) for this boat.
Liner,side panels,side pods,seat backs and ski locker lid.All colors/fades/graphics through out.

 

[Gelcoater]

Man has quite the skill set. :thumbsup

White/Green stripe 400Rs on it?

Black.

 

[Gelcoater]

Hindsight.
I think replacing the black with dark purple would send this to the next planet.:thumbsup



Like this.

 

[Roaddawg]

Normally not a fan of the green but this boat looks killer. Nice job Gelcoater

 

[noli]

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Gelcoater,

I bet people in your line of work would be willing to pay you to teach them this art of shooting the gelcoat design and colors.

and a beautiful 28 this cat is!




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[shueman]

Motors are already in ...

 

[shueman]

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Gelcoater,

I bet people in your line of work would be willing to pay you to teach them this art of shooting the gelcoat design and colors.

and a beautiful 28 this cat is!

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What's needed are INTERNS that WANT TO LEARN his line of work ... we've got 3-4 new builds ready for him now ... :yikes

 

[GRADS]

Hindsight.
I think replacing the black with purple and make the green a little more teal would send this to the 80's.:thumbsup
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Fixed.



I'd leave it just the way it is.:thumbsup

 

[Gelcoater]

What's needed are INTERNS that WANT TO LEARN his line of work ... we've got 3-4 new builds ready for him now ... :yikes

I just need a cloning machine,Gary.
Punch out two or three of me when I was 30..

 

[Gelcoater]

Fixed.



I'd leave it just the way it is.:thumbsup

Don't be a dick,Grads.

 

[shueman]

I just need a cloning machine,Gary.
Punch out two or three of me when I was 30..

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3D Printer ... noted

Apple has an app for that GRADS said

 

[Gelcoater]

Hey Gary? Did they start Mike's seats yet?
Progress?
Most of these build threads never show much in the upholstery dept or the magicians that work in there.
Talk about skill??
Making all that stuff from scratch,getting all the sewing lines matched up and various patterns and colors,etc etc.
We need to see some action from upstairs.:thumbsup

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Agree^^ just a different canvas but still some art work happening. :thumbsup

 

[shueman]

Hey Gary? Did they start Mike's seats yet?
Progress?
Most of these build threads never show much in the upholstery dept or the magicians that work in there.
Talk about skill??
Making all that stuff from scratch,getting all the sewing lines matched up and various patterns and colors,etc etc.
We need to see some action from upstairs.:thumbsup

Will do ... true artists :thumbsup, working in the heat and standing up all day ... :yikes

 

[J.P.]

Liking it, great job.

 

[MSum661]

Looks great! Love it. :thumbsup

 

[t&y]

Gelcoater put this design together ... he's finally getting the hang of this and might have a future ...

Lol... great. Now the dudes gonna come in here all caulky and shit talking about how he knows this and that...:skull

 

[Gelcoater]

Lol... great. Now the dudes gonna come in here all caulky and shit talking about how he knows this and that...:skull

Caulky...Noted.

 

[ChevelleSB406]

I am loving all the green boats that I will hopefully be in position to buy when the original owners decide to sell Nice work again Gelcoater, great concept and execution. :thumbsup

 

[River Lynchmob]

I've seen quite a few green boats lately...this is by far the best looking one. That is a true talent you have in the molds.

You can have all the people in the world want to learn how to do what he does but you can't teach the eye for colors or design...you have it or you don't kind of like Pink Taco behind the lens...and we all know Gelcoater has it! Great job!

 

[shueman]

Customer opted for the front/rear cap ... just about done :thumbsup

 

[shueman]

Front/Rear Cap complete and boat has moved over to the rigging line ... start drilling on her in the morning :thumbsup

 

[Dirtbag]

super good lookin ride!

 

[Tank]

Love the colors.

 

[Gelcoater]

Front/Rear Cap complete and boat has moved over to the rigging line ... start drilling on her in the morning :thumbsup

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I'm thinking Mike should have got white engines.:hmm

 

[HydroSkreamin]

I'm thinking Mike should have got white engines.:hmm

I'm thinking you're right.

Nice work on the gel, Gelcoater. Gorgeous boat.

Do you only do gel in the mold, or do you also do work when they cap them? Both processes amaze me.

 

[Gelcoater]

I'm thinking you're right.

Nice work on the gel, Gelcoater. Gorgeous boat.

Do you only do gel in the mold, or do you also do work when they cap them? Both processes amaze me.

I only do in the mold work. They have another guy that does capping and repair. He's a talented guy.

 

[shueman]

He bought the motors before he picked out the gel ... :skull Maybe paint the cowlings at this juncture, or green/white the accents on them ... :thumbup:

 

[shueman]

Boys are working "overtime" aka Midnight Motors to put Mike's boat together ... gotta 'em hung tonight :thumbsup

 

[FreeBird236]

He bought the motors before he picked out the gel ... :skull Maybe paint the cowlings at this juncture, or green/white the accents on them ... :thumbup:

Can't believe I missed who this is being built for, Mike was our salesman and did a great job. Congrats Mike.:thumbsup

Maybe without getting too crazy, just replacing the red with green would look pretty good.

 

[Andy01]

Man I love the look, the green is amazing. I like the black motors myself.

 

[HydroSkreamin]

Maybe without getting too crazy, just replacing the red with green would look pretty good.

Wake Effects did it to an MTI cat they just did, it's pretty sharp, and attention commanding! I say order the kit and DO IT!! :thumbup:

Here's the speedonthewater.com link to the post about it. https://speedonthewater.com/new-boats-engines/4230-new-mti-340x-offered-by-wake-effects-is-a-showstopper

 

[FreeBird236]

Wake Effects did it to an MTI cat they just did, it's pretty sharp, and attention commanding! I say order the kit and DO IT!! :thumbup:

Here's the speedonthewater.com link to the post about it. https://speedonthewater.com/new-boats-engines/4230-new-mti-340x-offered-by-wake-effects-is-a-showstopper

Looks great, didn't even know they made a kit...:thumbsup

 

[HydroSkreamin]

The "kit" is really for the white engines, the black engines only come with red graphics, but the white engines come in a bunch of different accent colors. It looks like Wake Effects just ordered the green graphics for the white engines and applied them to the black engines. Whodathunkit?

 

[shueman]

The "kit" is really for the white engines, the black engines only come with red graphics, but the white engines come in a bunch of different accent colors. It looks like Wake Effects just ordered the green graphics for the white engines and applied them to the black engines. Whodathunkit?

Rumor Mill sez white motors a back ordered 6-8 weeks !!

We just took a deposit on a 25' Daytona with 2x400s ... !!

 

[daveb1]

Rumor Mill sez white motors a back ordered 6-8 weeks !!

We just took a deposit on a 25' Daytona with 2x400s ... !!

You guys are crazy! You keep moving down the length that you sell with 400's. The 28' is the minimum length that should be used with these motors.

Why? Balance and CG. Get it wrong and disaster happens. The 28 has a 9' beam which help to displace the 1336 lbs (2 400 verados). The 27, really 26'10", is 6 " narrower as well as 1' 10" shorter. The bow will start out much higher and level out once on plane. The 25 is even more extreme, another 2' shorter and 2" narrower.

The 27' has a chance of handling this weight w/o too many drawbacks. Maybe a lot of bowrise on takeoff and too much bow lift at speed. I think this could be acceptable to an owner wanting the best acceleration.

The 25' is really pushing the limits of physics. This hull will struggle getting on plane. It may even porpoise which most Daytona's no longer do. Once it starts packing air, things will straighten out. The 25' with twin 400's is for the experienced, daring and a speed freak. For the rest of us, add a couple of feet of centerline and stay safe.

 

[Gelcoater]

You guys are crazy! You keep moving down the length that you sell with 400's. The 28' is the minimum length that should be used with these motors.

Why? Balance and CG. Get it wrong and disaster happens. The 28 has a 9' beam which help to displace the 1336 lbs (2 400 verados). The 27, really 26'10", is 6 " narrower as well as 1' 10" shorter. The bow will start out much higher and level out once on plane. The 25 is even more extreme, another 2' shorter and 2" narrower.

The 27' has a chance of handling this weight w/o too many drawbacks. Maybe a lot of bowrise on takeoff and too much bow lift at speed. I think this could be acceptable to an owner wanting the best acceleration.

The 25' is really pushing the limits of physics. This hull will struggle getting on plane. It may even porpoise which most Daytona's no longer do. Once it starts packing air, things will straighten out. The 25' with twin 400's is for the experienced, daring and a speed freak. For the rest of us, add a couple of feet of centerline and stay safe.

Fair points, Dave.:thumbsup
I suspect they'll place some ballast up front as a start but agree that could be a hairy ride in the wrong hands.

 

[951prerun]

You guys are crazy! You keep moving down the length that you sell with 400's. The 28' is the minimum length that should be used with these motors.

Why? Balance and CG. Get it wrong and disaster happens. The 28 has a 9' beam which help to displace the 1336 lbs (2 400 verados). The 27, really 26'10", is 6 " narrower as well as 1' 10" shorter. The bow will start out much higher and level out once on plane. The 25 is even more extreme, another 2' shorter and 2" narrower.

The 27' has a chance of handling this weight w/o too many drawbacks. Maybe a lot of bowrise on takeoff and too much bow lift at speed. I think this could be acceptable to an owner wanting the best acceleration.

The 25' is really pushing the limits of physics. This hull will struggle getting on plane. It may even porpoise which most Daytona's no longer do. Once it starts packing air, things will straighten out. The 25' with twin 400's is for the experienced, daring and a speed freak. For the rest of us, add a couple of feet of centerline and stay safe.

Only one way to find out!

 

[shueman]

Should be on the water for REGATTA 2017 ... Midnight Marine doing this one

 

[Gelcoater]

You guys are crazy! You keep moving down the length that you sell with 400's. The 28' is the minimum length that should be used with these motors.

Why? Balance and CG. Get it wrong and disaster happens. The 28 has a 9' beam which help to displace the 1336 lbs (2 400 verados). The 27, really 26'10", is 6 " narrower as well as 1' 10" shorter. The bow will start out much higher and level out once on plane. The 25 is even more extreme, another 2' shorter and 2" narrower.

The 27' has a chance of handling this weight w/o too many drawbacks. Maybe a lot of bowrise on takeoff and too much bow lift at speed. I think this could be acceptable to an owner wanting the best acceleration.

The 25' is really pushing the limits of physics. This hull will struggle getting on plane. It may even porpoise which most Daytona's no longer do. Once it starts packing air, things will straighten out. The 25' with twin 400's is for the experienced, daring and a speed freak. For the rest of us, add a couple of feet of centerline and stay safe.

I had to revisit this post.
Any idea what a 2 stroke Merc 2.5 weighs?
I want to say they're close to 400lbs ?

Gary had some old video playing today at the shop from Eliminator regatta #3
Among the boats in the video was a Gen 1 Eliminator 23 Daytona with not two but three of them strapped on.
That would be close to 1200lbs hanging off the back of a 23.:eek

In the video it lined up with a 19 Daytona Jet of equal hp, and handed the 19 it's ass! :cool

 

[Gelcoater]

And, in light of my previous thread crap, let's get this thread back on track.



When Mike ordered this boat he checked all the right boxes.
Selections came together to produce an awesome package.

Congrats Mike. It looks bad ass.:thumbsup

 

[River Lynchmob]

All I've got is, WOW!

 

[Tank]

Yea, fuck that white motor shit! Those black motors look EVIL! And blend in really well.

 

[MrMayhem]

Can't wait to see this on the water. Gorgeous.

 

[t&y]

Saw this heading south on the 15 around 3:30pm'ish... I'm guessing maybe a test run at Elsinore?

 

[Gelcoater]

Yea, fuck that white motor shit! Those black motors look EVIL! And blend in really well.

When you're right, you're right.:thumbsup

My previous posts about the white engines....yeah, No.
The Black looks wicked.

The red accents on the engine stick out and could be replaced with green easily.

 

[Gelcoater]

Saw this heading south on the 15 around 3:30pm'ish... I'm guessing maybe a test run at Elsinore?

I didn't realize they were going to run it today.
Can't wait to hear what it ran.:thumbsup