2022-2023 Ram 3500 with the Aisin Transmission - Failure

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

Good, now take that money and go get yourself a nice 2002 Chevy 2500 with a 8.1L or a 6.0L. You might not tow as fast, but you'll get there. The spark plugs won't get stuck or come out on their own, injectors won't cost you $5000, and a trans rebuild on a 4L80 is the same as a nice dinner for 2 families. Put tires on it and change the oil....and fix the lights in the radio buttons.

That's pretty much what I am looking to do. I don't need a 100k truck to take my kid to the track.

 

[NicPaus]

7500. Tax on a new diesel.

 

[v6toy4x]

I bought my truck (3500 w/aisin) from mark dodge as well, got delivered shortly after cowboys, took our boat back to howard for a windshield yesterday right after reading this. I had a cold sweat going over the grapevine but made it down and back. Maye it will burn down from the grid htr relay before the trans goes.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

Same, they’re doing repurchase on mine too, supposed to cover all rental costs, Just shy of of 10k. Lift rims tires tint etc just shy of 18k.
Truck will be based off your purchase contract minus mileage.

Have you received the offer yet? I'm curious as to what their actual number will be. I'll post mine when it comes.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

I bought my truck (3500 w/aisin) from mark dodge as well, got delivered shortly after cowboys, took our boat back to howard for a windshield yesterday right after reading this. I had a cold sweat going over the grapevine but made it down and back. Maye it will burn down from the grid htr relay before the trans goes.

I would get the AAA Premier Program so you get 200 miles of free towing, just in case!!!

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

7500. Tax on a new diesel.

I've been looking at that one. I may be calling after I get the actual buy back.

 

[v6toy4x]

I would get the AAA Premier Program so you get 200 miles of free towing, just in case!!!

Just did it this morning, thx

 

[Joe mama]

$7500 tax break?

 

[Icky]

I bought my truck (3500 w/aisin) from mark dodge as well, got delivered shortly after cowboys, took our boat back to howard for a windshield yesterday right after reading this. I had a cold sweat going over the grapevine but made it down and back. Maye it will burn down from the grid htr relay before the trans goes.

My 2022 and @Melloyellovector trucks were built in the same month (March 2022) and he's on his second Trans in 26k miles. I'm a little over 20k miles and waiting for it break every time I tow my trailer.

 

[Neverbowdown]

Sure they do.

Only spent 1983-2010 buying engines from Navistar.
Dana Axles
Borg Warner Transfer cases

Make all their own stuff...

All of the Big 3 use outsourced parts, Rivermobster was referring to the diesel engine specifically. Government Motors and Fiat have never manufactured their own diesels....oh wait, there was that genius 350 block that GM tried to force into being a diesel engine....how'd that work out? At the end of the day, once again, we are trying to deflect from what the OP is factually informing us of and turning it into a brand war that nobody ever wins. No need to trash talk when people are reporting the crime of $80-100K trucks are letting us down, regardless of the brand.

 

[OCMerrill]

Melloyellovector​

After all the BS and the fact that Aisin has a fix seems like money behind to let it be bought back. Its interesting to see the Japanese fuck up like that.
I had Aisin transmissions in all three of my Isuzu Box trucks. Based on my experience I would have recommended them but mistakes just like everyone else.

My comments based on the good deal you worked out.

GM and Ford developed that 10 Spd together. They also have problems. GM owns Allison so even though that division didn't make the 10 spd trans GM still puts that Allision badge on the hood. I think its misleading IMO.

V8 Diesels are more complicated to work on so long term repairs are more expensive. They all break.

 

[v6toy4x]

My 2022 and @Melloyellovector trucks were built in the same month (March 2022) and he's on his second Trans in 26k miles. I'm a little over 20k miles and waiting for it break every time I tow my trailer.

Trying to decide which is better the ticking time bomb OR the detonated explosion.
If I could schedule the explosion I would do it in a heart beat to get it behind me.

Now I need to schedule for the grid heater relay AND a DEF re-flash. That leaves the trans issue along with the grid heater bolt, probably to a delete that has the retro coil heater insert, not sure if I want the banks intake or not?? Heading down that rabbit hole next.

 

[Riverbound]

Ramcare is a fukin joke, I’ll about bet money you won’t get lemon law for this issue only w single visit. Look at the bright side, at least there’s a fix now.
This is my 2nd round of this BS.
Only way you’ll likely get LL is after fix, if you have time to go back to dealer a few more times complaining of noises or shift issues etc..

that’s exactly what i’m doing. my “repair parts” arrived yesterday. they should have me back on the road just before the 30 days. and i will have it back at dealer the minute it makes a weird noise or weird shift.

ram care is an absolute shit show. when i was talking to dealer opps manager, he asked if i had a case already. told him i did and who my
case manager was. he started laughing. he told me he would talk to mfr for me on my behalf. it’s been 3 weeks and have yet to have a conversation with my case manager.

 

[OCMerrill]

All of the Big 3 use outsourced parts, Rivermobster was referring to the diesel engine specifically. Government Motors and Fiat have never manufactured their own diesels....oh wait, there was that genius 350 block that GM tried to force into being a diesel engine....how'd that work out? At the end of the day, once again, we are trying to deflect from what the OP is factually informing us of and turning it into a brand war that nobody ever wins. No need to trash talk when people are reporting the crime of $80-100K trucks are letting us down, regardless of the brand.

Rivermobster and I are real good friends. He got poked back for all the Ram bullshit I have to constantly put up with. Its rare to trip him up. He would have sex with his F250 if he could but Its on 37's and he would have to stand on a ladder backwards.
He laughs...its all good. I worked as a wrench early on, I am well aware on outsourced parts.

Fiat has made Diesel engines since the dawn of the combustion engine. Although their first into a car was in the mid 70's. The next time you take a Carnival cruise and look up at that massive flying V exhaust stack there is most likely a Fiat 6 cyl in there with Cylinders you can stand in puffing out the power. Fiat also makes Panda Power generation with small single cylinder diesels. We have one of those in our ocean boat. Small footprint 4k gen.

I don't think anyone has trash talked any brand in this thread which I'll admit is a bit odd. I am pretty sure by now anyone with 1/2 a brain knows they all break. Plus the emissions can be problematic for all brands.

These threads turn into conversations. With out it you don't have a Forum.

 

[Bowtiepower00]

Trying to decide which is better the ticking time bomb OR the detonated explosion.
If I could schedule the explosion I would do it in a heart beat to get it behind me.

Now I need to schedule for the grid heater relay AND a DEF re-flash. That leaves the trans issue along with the grid heater bolt, probably to a delete that has the retro coil heater insert, not sure if I want the banks intake or not?? Heading down that rabbit hole next.

Have you had a Grid Heater bolt fail? It’s more common in cold climates where they are cycled frequently. In warmer climates, you can double tap the starter button to bypass the heater, even when it’s cold out. The truck will still start. They usually throw a code related to poor voltage when the bolt starts to melt/ arc giving some indication that failure is imminent.

I’m not sure where you are located, I’m in AZ, so it’s not really a concern of mine- I just double tap to start, even into the 30s without issue. If I were somewhere cold doing frequent starts all winter I might be more concerned.

 

[calkid]

I sold my 2015 2500 Cummins with the 68rfe with about 240k on it. That truck towed heavy often and I never had an issue with it. I didn't care for the "wig wag" caused by the rear coil set up but to each their own. I now own a 2021 3500 HD Cummins with the Aisin trans with over 50k trouble free miles on it. I tows 13k regularly and up to 18k occasionally without an issue. The power of this rig is pretty surprising compared to my last one.

 

[Neverbowdown]

Rivermobster and I are real good friends. He got poked back for all the Ram bullshit I have to constantly put up with. Its rare to trip him up. He would have sex with his F250 if he could but Its on 37's and he would have to stand on a ladder backwards.
He laughs...its all good. I worked as a wrench early on, I am well aware on outsourced parts.

Fiat has made Diesel engines since the dawn of the combustion engine. Although their first into a car was in the mid 70's. The next time you take a Carnival cruise and look up at that massive flying V exhaust stack there is most likely a Fiat 6 cyl in there with Cylinders you can stand in puffing out the power. Fiat also makes Panda Power generation with small single cylinder diesels. We have one of those in our ocean boat. Small footprint 4k gen.

I don't think anyone has trash talked any brand in this thread which I'll admit is a bit odd. I am pretty sure by now anyone with 1/2 a brain knows they all break. Plus the emissions can be problematic for all brands.

These threads turn into conversations. With out it you don't have a Forum.

Very true, and I must say I wholeheartedly agree, without the harmless banter this would be a boring thread for sure. Now, back to the having sex with an F250........that is acceptable then, correct? I wasn't gonna admit to it but since you brought it up........no pun intended BTW......

 

[Melloyellovector]

Have you received the offer yet? I'm curious as to what their actual number will be. I'll post mine when it comes.

Verbal so far they agreed to pay for everything.
10k rental, 18k lift rims tires tint etc, purchase contract minus mileage is what buy back will be.
‘plus offered 8-15% off msrp if I want a 23 ram to replace it

Customer care case managers are pretty useless. If anyone gets Patrick just know you’re gonna get fukt.
‘This time around I opened case and that was it, didn’t communicate shit, full intention of lawyer sticking it up their ass. Only to have resolution dude call literary same day lawyer called and said ok call me back for your options.

above was offered by ram resolution specialist
he gets everything done and sends to repurchase peeps that takes 5-7 days
then repurchase peeps sent email with all the shit they need to review for offer. That took me a week or so to gather info they needed.
submitted, now I wait for written agreement stating what I verbally agreed to. So we shall see.

 

[Icky]

Verbal so far they agreed to pay for everything.
10k rental, 18k lift rims tires tint etc, purchase contract minus mileage is what buy back will be.
‘plus offered 8-15% off msrp if I want a 23 ram to replace it

Customer care case managers are pretty useless. If anyone gets Patrick just know you’re gonna get fukt.
‘This time around I opened case and that was it, didn’t communicate shit, full intention of lawyer sticking it up their ass. Only to have resolution dude call literary same day lawyer called and said ok call me back for your options.

above was offered by ram resolution specialist
he gets everything done and sends to repurchase peeps that takes 5-7 days
then repurchase peeps sent email with all the shit they need to review for offer. That took me a week or so to gather info they needed.
submitted, now I wait for written agreement stating what I verbally agreed to. So we shall see.

What lift is on it?

 

[Melloyellovector]

What lift is on it?

carli 3.25 or what ever pintop w auto level, Innov8 rims, that Mike is already claiming for his kids truck. Wants to buy my spare ( doesn’t realize 1700 per rim )
What happens to truck once dealer takes it is non of my business

 

[Bryan721]

Had a buddy over the weekend loose his trans in a 2023 3500DRW with 6,000 miles on it. We were heading up to flying flags on Thursday morning at the 210/134 lost all power. Got stuck where there was no shoulder, I went and dumped my trailer in a parking lot and pulled him off the freeway with CHP behind us. The dealer we towed it to said the last one that failed took 6 months to repair

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

Had a buddy over the weekend loose his trans in a 2023 3500DRW with 6,000 miles on it. We were heading up to flying flags on Thursday morning at the 210/134 lost all power. Got stuck where there was no shoulder, I went and dumped my trailer in a parking lot and pulled him off the freeway with CHP behind us. The dealer we towed it to said the last one that failed took 6 months to repair

Mine took 14 weeks! Ram was fine with the lemon law and in fact were pretty fast in regards to sending me an offer, but to buy a new truck with financing I was looking at a much higher payment so I kept my piece of trash. To be honest, I do like the truck and just can't go without a truck for a long period of time.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Mine took 14 weeks! Ram was fine with the lemon law and in fact were pretty fast in regards to sending me an offer, but to buy a new truck with financing I was looking at a much higher payment so I kept my piece of trash. To be honest, I do like the truck and just can't go without a truck for a long period of time.

Is it fixed?

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

Is it fixed?

Yes, I got it back at 12 weeks, but the pump was leaking....took it back and got it back 2 weeks later. I've had it for about 3000 miles and 5 weeks or so and it's been fine. I'm just going to keep it and plan on putting a built tranny in it when it goes. I really plan on keeping the truck to give to my sone when he turns 16/17 as a first vehicle.

 

[Bryan721]

Mine took 14 weeks! Ram was fine with the lemon law and in fact were pretty fast in regards to sending me an offer, but to buy a new truck with financing I was looking at a much higher payment so I kept my piece of trash. To be honest, I do like the truck and just can't go without a truck for a long period of time.

I will pass along the info on the buy back, he isn't sure what he is going to do. Now he has it in the back of his head if they fix it how long until it fails again. Our trucks are mainly used for towing so its never fun thinking will I make it to my destination.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

I will pass along the info on the buy back, he isn't sure what he is going to do. Now he has it in the back of his head if they fix it how long until it fails again. Our trucks are mainly used for towing so its never fun thinking will I make it to my destination.

Basically, because of COVID, they made a change to the C-Clip that holds in the 1-4 gears and it failed. They will replace everything in the transmission and it will be fine. This is literally happening to every one of the transmissions that came out.

Don't let him negotiate the buy back himself. Hire a lemon law attorney. I should have done that in the first place.

 

[Bryan721]

Basically, because of COVID, they made a change to the C-Clip that holds in the 1-4 gears and it failed. They will replace everything in the transmission and it will be fine. This is literally happening to every one of the transmissions that came out.

Don't let him negotiate the buy back himself. Hire a lemon law attorney. I should have done that in the first place.

We were reading about the C-Clip after we got his truck and trailer situated and he jumped in my truck. Are they still rebuilding it with the same C-Clip or did they make a change? I will tell him if he goes that route on the buy back to get an attorney, i know he spent a decent amount and his lift wheels and tires.

 

[Icky]

Had a buddy over the weekend loose his trans in a 2023 3500DRW with 6,000 miles on it. We were heading up to flying flags on Thursday morning at the 210/134 lost all power. Got stuck where there was no shoulder, I went and dumped my trailer in a parking lot and pulled him off the freeway with CHP behind us. The dealer we towed it to said the last one that failed took 6 months to repair

Sure it's not a 2022? The mirrors changed on the 23s.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

We were reading about the C-Clip after we got his truck and trailer situated and he jumped in my truck. Are they still rebuilding it with the same C-Clip or did they make a change? I will tell him if he goes that route on the buy back to get an attorney, i know he spent a decent amount and his lift wheels and tires.

Initially, they were replacing the complete transmission, but the new ones were failing too. In fact, there is another person here on the board that got a new transmission and it too failed shortly after. Now, in the last 6 months or so, they are rebuilding the transmission with the older C-Clips that were tried and true. However, they also have to replace the clutch packs and other parts since the failure will cause harm to those items.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

I do not have a 22-23...but I have a 20. Been pretty flawless....other than the ass raping that I took on the 60k mile trans service this weekend in Havasu. About fell out of my chair when I got the bill.. Still would buy another.

 

[Bryan721]

Sure it's not a 2022? The mirrors changed on the 23s.

Might be, only 7 months old and 6k. I thought they finally went to power mirrors on the 24’s but don’t follow Dodge changes much.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I do not have a 22-23...but I have a 20. Been pretty flawless....other than the ass raping that I took on the 60k mile trans service this weekend in Havasu. About fell out of my chair when I got the bill.. Still would buy another.

Did they slip a capacitor swap in there?

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Had a buddy over the weekend loose his trans in a 2023 3500DRW with 6,000 miles on it. We were heading up to flying flags on Thursday morning at the 210/134 lost all power. Got stuck where there was no shoulder, I went and dumped my trailer in a parking lot and pulled him off the freeway with CHP behind us. The dealer we towed it to said the last one that failed took 6 months to repair

You’d be better off having the trans rebuilt by one of these places that beefs them up. If you tow you can’t stick with stock it will just fail again. The trans needs to be fixed for all the shortcuts the makes do to get fuel mileage.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Yes, I got it back at 12 weeks, but the pump was leaking....took it back and got it back 2 weeks later. I've had it for about 3000 miles and 5 weeks or so and it's been fine. I'm just going to keep it and plan on putting a built tranny in it when it goes. I really plan on keeping the truck to give to my sone when he turns 16/17 as a first vehicle.

I've not followed the thread but thought I might share our story to hopefully help others.

Our 2019 Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison with Diesel is one of about 3000 made in 2019 and only half had the Diesel. The rear end is the Dana 44 that is in the Jeep JL with an electric locker.

I think I could have won a lemon law fight, as the rear end went out within the first 3000 miles. It took months for the dealer to "Fix" the problem. I had to email the GM board of directors to get the dealer to actually give a crap about fixing the truck. I like the truck so I figured it was fixed and fine. The truck sounded like the rear end was suspect again at about 15K miles. I made a deal with the second dealership to pay for a rear-end service, but if they found glitter they would warranty the rear end. No surprise, they found glitter. Again this took way longer than it needed as they could not find parts. I quickly found the missing parts online and bought them myself. *It was the diff cover bolts as they refused to reuse the bolts because they did not have factory-applied lock tight.

At about 500 miles before the warranty expired the diff started to fail again. Ten days in the shop that time again, no parts were available. The dealer extended the work they did on a short warranty. But as luck had it, I started hearing the telltale sound of a rear-end failure 200 miles after the warranty expired. This time I inspected the diff myself and could see what looks like metal transfer on the ring gear and signs of excessive heat. The wear pattern also looked pretty deep into the ring gear.

So long story short, I'm on my 4th rear differential since 2019. I still love the truck, but I should have demanded a completely new rear-end housing. I suspect the ring and pinion were never set up correctly by the factory and the dealer did not have a tech capable of setting the gears up correctly. I asked each time for a break in instruction and they said NOPE.

I'm about 250 miles into the 4th gear set now out of my own pocket. I'm heat cycling the gears with short trips and plan to service and inspect at 350-500 miles. If this rear end fails again I might be swapping the whole rear end out for an aftermarket replacement. It's cheaper than a new truck.

I'm still not sure if I should have abandoned the truck. I have lots of close calls where I consider trading it in.

If it even feels like a second failure I would consider getting out of it. You won't ever trust the truck.

 

[Melloyellovector]

Might be, only 7 months old and 6k. I thought they finally went to power mirrors on the 24’s but don’t follow Dodge changes much.

Ya that’s a 22, 23s have different mirrors, 23 + don’t have the trans issues

 

[CSmith]

The rams have a couple different options on transmissions. You can either get the 68RFE OR The Aisin. If you are towing Aisin is the way to go as long as you keep your truck stock and don't want to delete it. If you are wanting to delete your truck and mild towing the 68RFE might be the way to go. I'm not saying I'm a master however lots of people don't know that and they just jump into buying the new truck that catches there eye at the dealer. I know this had nothing to do with the failures that are recently happening but if you have a 3500 ram with the aisin trans from 19 on. There are a couple years I would recommend changing out the CP4 pump back to a CP3 which ram actually will reimburse you for, leave it stock yes dump some of the DEF fluid in it and run it for 300k plus. If anyone buys a 3/4 ton truck or 1 ton truck and complains about fuel mileage or whatever doesn't have any business owning it. Unless you are a hotshot logging miles every day. These trucks aren't built to be your grocery getter and get 30 plus miles a gallon. They are built to pull like a freight train. I know I went off the rails but point being, every truck has its flaws, but I can assure you the manufacturers don't like it either if they have thousands of trucks back in for recalls or whatever other flaws cause they are now fixing your truck, paying techs, and losing a customer.

 

[Melloyellovector]

Initially, they were replacing the complete transmission, but the new ones were failing too. In fact, there is another person here on the board that got a new transmission and it too failed shortly after. Now, in the last 6 months or so, they are rebuilding the transmission with the older C-Clips that were tried and true. However, they also have to replace the clutch packs and other parts since the failure will cause harm to those items.

They replaced mine originally with new, then that failed and did the fix, literally just dropped the 22 off last week. My 23 has zero issues so far
If your considering lifting and putting rims n tires Iv got a carli pin top 3.25 and Innov8 rims w 37s sitting in my garage looking for a new home

 

[boatpi]

Call Ramcare, they paid for a rental when I had warranty work done

 

[Bryan721]

You’d be better off having the trans rebuilt by one of these places that beefs them up. If you tow you can’t stick with stock it will just fail again. The trans needs to be fixed for all the shortcuts the makes do to get fuel mileage.

Ya kinda crazy to me, you buy a 1 ton dually because it's made to "tow" so why would they take shortcuts to get better mpg. I would think for most people mpg isn't a top priority when buying a truck like that. I know it wasn't for me when I bought my GMC 3500DRW, I knew what I was getting into and didn't care what mpg I get towing my 40' 5th wheel. I feel like once you are over 10K lbs they all get crappy mpg towing.

 

[Bryan721]

Call Ramcare, they paid for a rental when I had warranty work done

He called them yesterday and started a claim

 

[GR8WHITE]

Every dealership I ever worked at called Enterprise (for a rental) when we ran out of loaner cars.

I never worked for Dodge though.

I recommend the OP call the Cust. Sat. line and raise hell!!!

This right here.

 

[DILLIGAF]

So....I have a 2023 6.7 DRW 3500 with 5K miles on it. Have the 6 speed transmission (68RFE) and tow a 20K 5th wheel all over the country. You guys have me concerned. Only thing I can say is that once it seemed to slip down a few gears and I had to manually change it back to 6th gear. I always drive with the exhaust brake on.

What should I be keeping an eye on?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

So....I have a 2023 6.7 DRW 3500 with 5K miles on it. Have the 6 speed transmission (68RFE) and tow a 20K 5th wheel all over the country. You guys have me concerned. Only thing I can say is that once it seemed to slip down a few gears and I had to manually change it back to 6th gear. I always drive with the exhaust brake on.

What should I be keeping an eye on?

You don’t have the Aisin trans, so you won’t have this particular problem.

 

[DILLIGAF]

You don’t have the Aisin trans, so you won’t have this particular problem.

I hope not....

 

[JDub24]

So....I have a 2023 6.7 DRW 3500 with 5K miles on it. Have the 6 speed transmission (68RFE) and tow a 20K 5th wheel all over the country. You guys have me concerned. Only thing I can say is that once it seemed to slip down a few gears and I had to manually change it back to 6th gear. I always drive with the exhaust brake on.

What should I be keeping an eye on?

6th gear is the weak spot. The clutches don’t like 6th gear under boost with a load. Manually put it in 5th and let it eat. Keep an eye on trans temps and adjust throttle accordingly.

I have a 3/4 2016 srw bone stock motor/trans and I have not had any issues with almost 90k on the clock. I know the towing police will not like this next part but I pulled a 45’ gooseneck from L.A CA to Grand Junction CO with a weight of about 27k. WAAAY over weight but truck didn’t skip a beat.

 

[DILLIGAF]

6th gear is the weak spot. The clutches don’t like 6th gear under boost with a load. Manually put it in 5th and let it eat. Keep an eye on trans temps and adjust throttle accordingly.

I have a 3/4 2016 srw bone stock motor/trans and I have not had any issues with almost 90k on the clock. I know the towing police will not like this next part but I pulled a 45’ gooseneck from L.A CA to Grand Junction CO with a weight of about 27k. WAAAY over weight but truck didn’t skip a beat.
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Thanks for that input. I think I will take your advice there.

 

[JDub24]

Thanks for that input. I think I will take your advice there.

Save up some dollars and have companies like Randy’s or Tier 1 build up your trans once your warranty is up. Regular maintenance and half a brain will get you where you need to go until then. None of the diesel trucks/transmissions are perfect for sure. Know your truck and drive/tow accordingly. This is my 4th Dodge/Ram and I have yet to have one leave me stranded.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Save up some dollars and have companies like Randy’s or Tier 1 build up your trans once your warranty is up. Regular maintenance and half a brain will get you where you need to go until then. None of the diesel trucks/transmissions are perfect for sure. Know your truck and drive/tow accordingly. This is my 4th Dodge/Ram and I have yet to have one leave me stranded.

Thank you. They threw in an extended warranty for next to nothing when I bought the truck. Got a great deal on it plus a respectable trade in out of Texas. I have had good luck with the RAMS I have bought in the past. For the record I also owned Fords and Chev.....Today I like the RAM trucks

 

[Ace in the Hole]

Did they slip a capacitor swap in there?

I have the cat filter swap kit to install...just waiting until I hit 100k. For 2 fuel filters and the 60k service (filter/fluid) it was close to $1100...the fuel service was about $400 of that which has went up...wont be doing that there again.

It's still painful to sit down....

There are a couple years I would recommend changing out the CP4 pump back to a CP3 which ram actually will reimburse you for.

If you call the dealer they will schedule the swap out for you. Anderson did mine on my 20...no issues, and they gave me a loaner while it was in for it. They sent letters out to all owners about the recall/swap

 

[CSmith]

I have the cat filter swap kit to install...just waiting until I hit 100k. For 2 fuel filters and the 60k service (filter/fluid) it was close to $1100...the fuel service was about $400 of that which has went up...wont be doing that there again.

It's still painful to sit down....


If you call the dealer they will schedule the swap out for you. Anderson did mine on my 20...no issues, and they gave me a loaner while it was in for it. They sent letters out to all owners about the recall/swap

I had already done it on my 19 prior to the recall and after I got the letter I called ram care and they sent me over a form to fill out with the cost and the shop that did the work. They sent me a check in the mail. I was very impressed.