2021 Turbo-S 4 or 2022 Turbo R 4??

[THE Cat Sass]

So I thought I'd tap the brain trust here as I know there's some experience around here with these suckers. I've owned 900XP's back in the day and several hunting Rangers but now it's time to dive back into a full time sand car. I have 2 deals in my sights. I'm looking at a 21' Turbo S 4 on Saturday, 49 hours and appears perfect. Has a set of paddles already on rims, lighted whips, side mirrors, full windshield and a aftermarket bench rear seat that's nice, other than that - stock. $35.5K will be the number.

Next up I have a quote on a new Turbo-R 4 out the door at $39.5K. Both rides are the Dynamix Ride command versions, that was a have-to-have. I've crawled around one of these and it's very, very comfy. Trailering is not an issue. 90% dune usage. Obviously I'd have to pony up more $$ on the new rig for paddles/wheels, whips but that's mostly all I'd need to start.

What would you do?

 

[SKIDMARC]

Buy a Can Am.

Just kidding, kind of. I always have an issue paying new car prices for a used car.

But either will work fine I’m sure. BIL has a Turbo S and it’s nice.

 

[Pivot]

Have you looked at speed utv?

 

[ArizonaKevin]

IMO worth it to get the Turbo R, the improved rear suspension design with toe control is a massive upgrade.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Turbo r. Suspension is really refined

 

[THE Cat Sass]

Have you looked at speed utv?

Yeah, I hear they are just about to start...ahhhh.....scratch that.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

I’ll add that it depends on the room your have to store haul the size difference is pretty big.

I get the suspension thing but really how fast are you going to be going and what type of terrain? I’ve got the turbo s with dynamix and love it! It is capable of way more than I’m willing to do with my family in the car.

 

[Xring01]

I would highly suggest you look at all the people who are selling the Polaris or Can Ams and heading to the KRX team..

I own a KRX… I may not be the fastest buggy to get to the mountain, but I am typically passing everyone else on the way up, when shit gets technical.

Best news of all, they dont need thousands of dollars of upgrades when you buy them brand new.. Pretty much take it from the show room to Rubicon, or Moab in stock form. Yes upgrades help, but they both get the job done.

From what I have seen… They dont break as frequently.. Mine is a 2020 with 3300 miles on it.. its still on the oem belt, axles, drive shafts, a arms, etc etc etc etc…

If you havent looked at them, I suggest you take a look before you spend $40K.

 

[THE Cat Sass]

I’ll add that it depends on the room your have to store haul the size difference is pretty big.

I get the suspension thing but really how fast are you going to be going and what type of terrain? I’ve got the turbo s with dynamix and love it! It is capable of way more than I’m willing to do with my family in the car.

Agree....No way I'd ever out drive either car for sure.

 

[THE Cat Sass]

I would highly suggest you look at all the people who are selling the Polaris or Can Ams and heading to the KRX team..

I own a KRX… I may not be the fastest buggy to get to the mountain, but I am typically passing everyone else on the way up, when shit gets technical.

Best news of all, they dont need thousands of dollars of upgrades when you buy them brand new.. Pretty much take it from the show room to Rubicon, or Moab in stock form. Yes upgrades help, but they both get the job done.

From what I have seen… They dont break as frequently.. Mine is a 2020 with 3300 miles on it.. its still on the oem belt, axles, drive shafts, a arms, etc etc etc etc…

If you havent looked at them, I suggest you take a look before you spend $40K.

Well hell...going to have to check 'em out now.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Agree....No way I'd ever out drive either car for sure.

Turbo R. Interior is better, suspension is better. Same proven drivetrain in both pretty much.

The 2021s have a stop rides at the moment for clutch problems. Polaris says they are working on a fix.

I haven’t researched what the problem actually is and if aftermarket parts will fix it. 19 and 20 Turbo S are both good.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I would highly suggest you look at all the people who are selling the Polaris or Can Ams and heading to the KRX team..

I own a KRX… I may not be the fastest buggy to get to the mountain, but I am typically passing everyone else on the way up, when shit gets technical.

Best news of all, they dont need thousands of dollars of upgrades when you buy them brand new.. Pretty much take it from the show room to Rubicon, or Moab in stock form. Yes upgrades help, but they both get the job done.

From what I have seen… They dont break as frequently.. Mine is a 2020 with 3300 miles on it.. its still on the oem belt, axles, drive shafts, a arms, etc etc etc etc…

If you havent looked at them, I suggest you take a look before you spend $40K.

I really like the KRX, but to be fair if a Can Am or Polaris had half the power… they wouldn’t break much either

 

[THE Cat Sass]

Turbo R. Interior is better, suspension is better. Same proven drivetrain in both pretty much.

The 2021s have a stop rides at the moment for clutch problems as well. Polaris says they are working on a fix

For the -S correct?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

For the -S correct?

I believe It is for turbo S and for Turbo XP for ‘21.

Again, if you look at one just check the VIN against known recalls/ stop rides, etc.

Apparently for ‘21 they put Pro Xp clutches on the S and XP turbo.. there was already a recall for the Pro XP models.

 

[satellitemike]

I would highly suggest you look at all the people who are selling the Polaris or Can Ams and heading to the KRX team..

I own a KRX… I may not be the fastest buggy to get to the mountain, but I am typically passing everyone else on the way up, when shit gets technical.

Best news of all, they dont need thousands of dollars of upgrades when you buy them brand new.. Pretty much take it from the show room to Rubicon, or Moab in stock form. Yes upgrades help, but they both get the job done.

From what I have seen… They dont break as frequently.. Mine is a 2020 with 3300 miles on it.. its still on the oem belt, axles, drive shafts, a arms, etc etc etc etc…

If you havent looked at them, I suggest you take a look before you spend $40K.

Only negative to the KRX is the weight and modest power for sand play! Cat said he was thinking 90% duning.

 

[Racey]

The turbo-s 4s are great machines and still retain that more upright seating that i think is better in a sxs especially when you are into slower and more technical trails. And shorter wheelbase i believe also.

I should add, i dont dune in sxs or really think that is where they shine, so if you are into mainly duning or a good portion duning that probably changes what you are looking for.

 

[Bowtiepower00]

I have about 300 miles on my R. It is a good car, but it is huge. 75” wide at ride height, and tall. If you have a toyhauler, make sure it will fit.

39.5k OTD sounds about right. The Dynamix works well, but in high speed desert sections I use the red button quite a bit, it does work well though. I’m waiting to see if the springs collapse. I would go for the R, but the S is a nice rig too.

 

[evantwheeler]

I would highly suggest you look at all the people who are selling the Polaris or Can Ams and heading to the KRX team..

I own a KRX… I may not be the fastest buggy to get to the mountain, but I am typically passing everyone else on the way up, when shit gets technical.

Best news of all, they dont need thousands of dollars of upgrades when you buy them brand new.. Pretty much take it from the show room to Rubicon, or Moab in stock form. Yes upgrades help, but they both get the job done.

From what I have seen… They dont break as frequently.. Mine is a 2020 with 3300 miles on it.. its still on the oem belt, axles, drive shafts, a arms, etc etc etc etc…

If you havent looked at them, I suggest you take a look before you spend $40K.

Per his OP he says 90% dunes => no KRX. They are bad ass machines no doubt for crawling and trails. Wrong tool for the job in the sand. Polaris all the way.

 

[Bowtiepower00]

I’ll add, if you spring for the R, the 5 lug wheels are a little difficult to source at the moment, and quite a bit more expensive compared to 4 lug. For the dunes, the fronts are available- but the rear 15x10s are backordered pretty much everywhere, from every manufacturer. And fronts are almost exclusively 6+1. Some guys are running car wheels, since they are available. I’m going to try the SS360 on mine, I had to buy a mounted set, I couldn’t find rear wheels anywhere.

 

[702sandman]

I have a like new 2021 - 4 seat turbo S that I’m selling. It has a cognito cage, doors, roof rack, and spare tire carrier. pci intercoms and kenwood car to car. PCI race air, walker evans wheels and new toyo tires. Has 250 miles and looks brand new. Selling for 35k if your interested let me know

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I have a like new 2021 - 4 seat turbo S that I’m selling. It has a cognito cage, doors, roof rack, and spare tire carrier. pci intercoms and kenwood car to car. PCI race air, walker evans wheels and new toyo tires. Has 250 miles and looks brand new. Selling for 35k if your interested let me know
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Great deal for this!!! Someone buy it now!

 

[Outdrive1]

The R is night and day better from a suspension standpoint. Look at the a-arms of either. The frame is better and more rigid. They prewired a bus bar that accepts Deutsch connectors, for adding accessories, you can add like 10 switches in the dash. It comes with 6 point retractable harnesses. 32” tires. Aluminum roof. Everything about it is “better” or refined. Just my opinion.

It is massive though. It’s about 6’6” tall and wide obviously.

 

[Bpracing1127]

I have a like new 2021 - 4 seat turbo S that I’m selling. It has a cognito cage, doors, roof rack, and spare tire carrier. pci intercoms and kenwood car to car. PCI race air, walker evans wheels and new toyo tires. Has 250 miles and looks brand new. Selling for 35k if your interested let me know
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That’s a deal!!!!!

 

[BIGRED9158]

Turbo R. Interior is better, suspension is better. Same proven drivetrain in both pretty much.

The 2021s have a stop rides at the moment for clutch problems. Polaris says they are working on a fix.

I haven’t researched what the problem actually is and if aftermarket parts will fix it. 19 and 20 Turbo S are both good.

I talked with the service guy at Langston about this and he said this is for car that has stock clutches and people who are driving like shit if you have upgraded your clutch you will have no issue and in my opinion everyone should upgrade the clutch as it’s a known weak link for polaris rzrs

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I talked with the service guy at Langston about this and he said this is for car that has stock clutches and people who are driving like shit if you have upgraded your clutch you will have no issue and in my opinion everyone should upgrade the clutch as it’s a known weak link for polaris rzrs

That is good to know. My neighbor said he can be rolling at 40 and hammers the gas and RPMs go up and car does not accelerate. If he rolls into it, it’s OK.

I told him to get a clutch kit based on the fix for the Pro XP with the same
Clutch was a new spring. He needs one anyway as he put 31s on the car.

 

[Icky]

A Rhino used to be ok for the sand.....

 

[BIGRED9158]

That is good to know. My neighbor said he can be rolling at 40 and hammers the gas and RPMs go up and car does not accelerate. If he rolls into it, it’s OK.

I told him to get a clutch kit based on the fix for the Pro XP with the same
Clutch was a new spring. He needs one anyway as he put 31s on the car.

That sound like maybe a belt issue as well that happened to me when I was running 32 BFG before the clutch kit and changed out the belt and everything was good

 

[Englewood]

I've ridden up and down Baja at high speeds in the Turbo S...They are great cars.

My next car will be a Turbo-R as I like the additional leg room. Regardless of which car you get, spend the money and get the shocks tuned and re-sprung.

99.999% won't even use the Turbo-S to it's full ability. The Turbo-R is even stronger/faster.

Where can you get these for 40k?! OTD?

I'll sell this for 40k right now. Won't find a better riding Turbo-S anywhere.

 

[Blackmagic94]

It gonna be real funny when the economy finally takes a dump and people who think they dump money into toys to get the exact penny they spent for a sale price get a big fucking reality check on what a normal market is.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

It gonna be real funny when the economy finally takes a dump and people who think they dump money into toys to get the exact penny they spent for a sale price get a big fucking reality check on what a normal market is.

I guess if that’s what makes you happy?

 

[NicPaus]

@Englewood

They had the turbo pro 4 ultimate at Wheels and motion for under msrp otd.

I had deposit on a turbo 4 sport for 32,200 otd from Bert's at sand show. Wanted to add extended warranty after I locked in price and they would not give me a price without running my credit so I backed out.

 

[NicPaus]

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[Bpracing1127]

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That’s not the turbo r.

 

[NicPaus]

That’s not the turbo r.

My bad. Is the turbo r the wider version of this?

 

[Blackmagic94]

Someone posted that ride now had some big discounts

Ridenowgoodyear.com

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

It gonna be real funny when the economy finally takes a dump and people who think they dump money into toys to get the exact penny they spent for a sale price get a big fucking reality check on what a normal market is.

You mean like every RV, trailer, toy hauler sand car, boat, motorcycle, truck and car owner?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

My bad. Is the turbo r the wider version of this?

Yes. That is the 64” car. Turbo R and Pro R are 74”

And read the fine print… there is ADM.

 

[Blackmagic94]

You mean like every RV, trailer, toy hauler sand car, boat, motorcycle, truck and car owner?

Yes

 

[idk]

That is good to know. My neighbor said he can be rolling at 40 and hammers the gas and RPMs go up and car does not accelerate. If he rolls into it, it’s OK.

I told him to get a clutch kit based on the fix for the Pro XP with the same
Clutch was a new spring. He needs one anyway as he put 31s on the car.

Your neighbor needs to change his secondary spring to a 7045524 Pro XP spring its a 160/260, the stock spring is a 160/230 and the stock secondary slip from about 50 mph on that's when they start to shift its a common problem that's how I fixed mine. You can buy them on eBay or wherever I think it was 30 or 40 bucks, mine was slipping quite a bit not any more.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Your neighbor needs to change his secondary spring to a 7045524 Pro XP spring its a 160/260, the stock spring is a 160/230 and the stock secondary slip from about 50 mph on that's when they start to shift its a common problem that's how I fixed mine. You can buy them on eBay or wherever I think it was 30 or 40 bucks, mine was slipping quite a bit not any more.

Thanks for that. We were just talking about that spring tonight. I think he’s just going to get a full clutch kit.

 

[THE Cat Sass]

Appreciate all the replies, pulled the trigger on a new Turbo R 4 today, pick it up Saturday. $39,200 OTD was the final number after we sparred for a bit. Make no mistake, these guys are seeing sales fall off and are eager to move inventory. As all these new rigs they have on order arrive and the market cools, there will be deals made. I dont see crazy discounting as there’s still a bunch of folks sitting on $$ that will dive in, but it’s going to get competitive across dealers on new cars.

 

[satellitemike]

I've ridden up and down Baja at high speeds in the Turbo S...They are great cars.

My next car will be a Turbo-R as I like the additional leg room. Regardless of which car you get, spend the money and get the shocks tuned and re-sprung.

99.999% won't even use the Turbo-S to it's full ability. The Turbo-R is even stronger/faster.

Where can you get these for 40k?! OTD?

I'll sell this for 40k right now. Won't find a better riding Turbo-S anywhere. View attachment 1167082

 

[Shockwave25]

Has anyone got the new Rzr 4 seater into a toy hauler yet?