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I haven't followed this closely, are they dropping the front engine vette altogether or are they going to offer both models going forward?
 

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I'm betting on, the mid engine Vette will be substantially more expensive. So, keeping the front engine model will live for a while IMO only. Look at the Ford GT halo car, no mass production there for Ford, the Mustang will live forever.
 

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Rumor has it the front engine will be gone, and they're going all-in on the mid engine. That's smart. Managing the performance car business with the Camaro, the front engine Vette, and a new mid-engine Vette, would add 50% more complexity, and definitely not add 50% more sales. The Camaro performs so well they have a great opportunity to really increase the Vette's capability, and target competition like the Ford GT, and all the other exotics.
 
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Funny read for sure --- plus if you made it to the end --- then this

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To me it seems to have lost that vette signature look. All through the recent years you could still tell was a vette. The C8 looks to be something that you would think is a Ferrari or Lambo at first glance, possibly thats their intention, but a large majority of vette buyers have bought more then one and want to keep that signature feel.
 

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To me it seems to have lost that vette signature look. All through the recent years you could still tell was a vette. The C8 looks to be something that you would think is a Ferrari or Lambo at first glance, possibly thats their intention, but a large majority of vette buyers have bought more then one and want to keep that signature feel.
That's exactly how I feel as well. Along with a few other Vette fans I've talked to. Granted, none of us could afford to buy them anytime soon, but we all felt the same way. Also, all of the people I talked to about it all agreed, the new Vette looks like a 10 year old Ferrari.

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That's exactly how I feel as well. Along with a few other Vette fans I've talked to. Granted, none of us could afford to buy them anytime soon, but we all felt the same way. Also, all of the people I talked to about it all agreed, the new Vette looks like a 10 year old Ferrari.

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GM only wishes they could build a car that looks as good as an 09' Ferrari F430 Scuderia and at ten years old still be worth $ 250-350K. I've owned a couple of Vettes, I really like the looks of the C7, but if the new C8 looks nearly as good as this test mule, I like it. Just question if I could bring myself to spend what they'll be asking for essentially a garage queen, occasional Sunday driver. But if it causes a price dip with the C7 Z06s, I might seize that opportunity :D
 

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That's exactly how I feel as well. Along with a few other Vette fans I've talked to. Granted, none of us could afford to buy them anytime soon, but we all felt the same way. Also, all of the people I talked to about it all agreed, the new Vette looks like a 10 year old Ferrari.

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This!

The vette is known as a front engine 2 seat monster.
The mid engine kills the history of the vette
 

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This!

The vette is known as a front engine 2 seat monster.
The mid engine kills the history of the vette
Me also......Make the mid engine a supercar version to compete with the other exotics. Keep the 'Vette in it's front engine build and a continuation of it's legacy. To me GM is underestimating the retiring baby boomer generation that has waited for this period of their life to arrive and grab that dream 'Vette, not some super car look alike that will cost far more.

I believe they are making a serious marketing/sales mistake if they go all in on the midengine at this point in time
 

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Me also......Make the mid engine a supercar version to compete with the other exotics. Keep the 'Vette in it's front engine build and a continuation of it's legacy. To me GM is underestimating the retiring baby boomer generation that has waited for this period of their life to arrive and grab that dream 'Vette, not some super car look alike that will cost far more.

I believe they are making a serious marketing/sales mistake if they go all in on the midengine at this point in time

Old Tex, I don't know about you, but as a retired aging Baby Boomer, it's become frustratingly obvious, that other than Blue pills, Depends and hearing aids, nothing is being marketed for our generation. Even Lexus and Cadillac has abandoned our kind. I think we're important, but apparently Survey Sez and marketing analytics, don't agree ??
 

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I'm not a fan of the current Vette, don't like the Camaro taillights. The mid engine looks too Ferrari. I might be biased having owned a C4, I still like that styling. I just hope the C6's drop more in price, its the last of the still looking like a Vette of the line.
 

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The vette is known as a front engine 2 seat monster.
The mid engine kills the history of the vette

To me, a mid-engine Vette is a great acknowledgement to the storied history of Zora Arkus-Duntov’s efforts to bring a mid-engined Vette to market.

There’s been lots of interesting history surrounding the mid-engine Vette, here’s one article:

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2018/01/30/sixty-years-in-the-making


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I'm not a fan of the current Vette, don't like the Camaro taillights. The mid engine looks too Ferrari. I might be biased having owned a C4, I still like that styling. I just hope the C6's drop more in price, its the last of the still looking like a Vette of the line.
My thoughts again....
 

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Vette buyer demographics is interesting --- and it dovetails with the emotions being communicated in this very thread. The C7 was a successful attempt by GM to attract a younger buying demographic. While Corvette has historically attracted the 55 and older crowd, the exotics, like Ferrari, Lambo and Porsche have attracted the later 40's buyers. This is the market GM is apparently targeting with the mid-engine C8, a group slightly younger than the previous C7. This is essentially the sentiment being conveyed in this thread. Except for apparently me -- go figure. :rolleyes:
The last Vette I owned was a C4, the C5 & C6, series didn't loosen my wallet -- the exception being the extreme ZL1 or Z06 versions, but not enough to open it.
I tried to purchase a brand new 15' Vette, white with blacked out mirrors and such, dick head dealer wouldn't budge from his inflated $$, so I walked.

There's no way I'll spend the big $$ on a new C8, but if it makes a C7 Z06 more affordable, then I might just snag one.

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Like Harley Davidson, Corvette product managers have a tough situation. They need to figure out how to keep their current, aging fans, while also attracting new ones. Boomers and millennials are currently about the same size demographic, but boomers are shrinking, and millennial buying power is increasing.
 
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Hope the old ones dive in value so I could snatch one up cheap again. Sold this for 20k in the early 80's.:rolleyes:

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Just like high performance boats, sports car / muscle cars have a tough road ahead. The younger generation inst interested in them. I have my thoughts about why, but it is what it is. Kids, and I mean young men, are not interested in most of what us here on this site are. They would rather talk about stuff, have a new phone, clothes and their feelings being heard and respected are more important than actually going out and doing something new and trying to conquer machines. Young men now are taught to be subservient and be ashamed of being what we are genetically geared towards being.

It really is sad and those that are responsible have zero clue what they are doing to the younger generations.

Back on topic, I applaud GM for finally doing a mid engined supercar. It would be a huge mistake to drop the front engined car though. The mid engine car should be the halo car with several models below it moving forward.
 

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I have had a '06 C6 Vert for 8 years and while I still like it would recommend you go two years newer for an '08 due to the better transmission and 430 HP stock engine. My paddle shift has been improved after market (tuned) as well as air intake/pipes/dyno just to get to the '08 hp. For a couple of bucks more the '08 and up is better. JMO.
 

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I am not a Vette fan as I always picture white New Balance shoes that were bought on heavy discount at Big Five, unbuttoned black shirt with gold chains. HOWEVER, I do think it is an amazing car and the current C7 is just bad ass. The first time I saw one, my jaw literally dropped.

Keep in mind, you can still get chrome wheels as an option on most models if that tells you anything about who is still buying them. hahahahaha!

I feel it's great as a front engine rwd car. There is just something so American about a V8 platform with RWD. But, it will be neat to see what this next Vette brings.

Personlly I would buy a 1LE ZL1 all day, every day over a ZR1 Vette; not much less car for WAY less money.
 
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Neighbor in Havasu just got one, its a race car, tires are practically slicks, brakes are carbon, etc. Makes my wife's C7 look like a Prius.

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That is a bitchen car. That is called the ZTK package and the only package Vette I would buy. Same tires factory as my car came with; Michelin Pilot Sport Cup II. My car actually came with wider front tires than that Vette surprisingly. Yes, they are basically track tires that are sort of street legal. Depending on how you drive, 5k to 12k is normal life span of these tires.
 

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I found an 08 ZO6 for around $29k USD in Kelowna. I'm going to check and see what they sell for in the states. Might be a good eBay flip.
 

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I found an 08 ZO6 for around $29k USD in Kelowna. I'm going to check and see what they sell for in the states. Might be a good eBay flip.
You didn't mention the mileage -- under 30K miles, seems asking price is higher $ 30K range. Doubt you'll make any real $$ flipping it unless it's low miles.
Fun car for not a lot of investment and I dig the 7.0 NA engine !!
 

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Its this one: https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/cto/d/kamloops-2008-chevrolet-corvette-z07/6859024088.html the price in USD is around $29k and in miles it has around 34k miles.
In California that car is a mid 20s car because it’s a salvage title. It’s also not fully loaded as the add states because it doesn’t have a leather wrapped dash or two tone seats. In 2008 they changed the z06 up a bit and the transmission changed from a t56 to a tr6060, many owner complained that the tr6060 has cold grinding issues. Also the ls7 has issue with the valve guides, they can wear down causing you to drop a valve and that’s a 10k motor used. To fix the heads if you pull them yourself it costs between $1200-$1700 to send them to a shop to get ported and new hardware. Besides that the c6z is an awesome car and that ls7 sure does sound good:D
 

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We sold the Zo6 in anticipation of the mid engine. Money sitting in the bank.
We'll wait it out for a higher performance, bigger wheel and tire version than the basic.
 

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Internet forums everywhere are filled with threads and posts from people bashing the new generation car/truck and how they hate it only to later be overwhelmed by fans of the new version.

As for the C8 it’s the next step in Vette evolution. Anticipation of the C8 has really impacted C7 sales and they’re heavily discounted and last month Chevy was offering 0% interest.

Car mfrs face a very challenging and questionable future as electrics and self-driving vehicles appear to be taking over the future. And socialist countries like this in Europe are planning to legislate vehicle use which will control their design and manufacture
 

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Looks like it’s a salvage title...

Yes, ICBC calls it rebuilt not salvaged. They don't issue licence/coverage for salvaged title cars, only to rebuilt. They stopped issuing salvage title coverage after Katrina and other disasters, when shady dealers snatched them up from Texas were new titles could be obtained there, and flipping them up here. Even motorcycles with perfectly straight frames with engines still turning over are banned to bring them in. You can import a salvage title vehicle though for track purposes only.
 
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