Glamis Ghost Camps - Namely Krazy Kustom

[Wizard29]

First off, a heartfelt and warm fuck you to anybody who does the ghost camping thing at Glamis.

I pulled in Wednesday morning...Roadrunner full. Keyhole full. Pad 4 full. Ended up camping at Gecko in pretty much the last satisfactory spot big enough for our group. Obvious ghost camps and people parking disconnected trailers and other vehicles strategically to save as much space as possible. Complete assholes.

Beginning Wednesday morning when we got there, we observed a neon green and black trailer apparently belonging to "Krazy Kustom" along with two others sit completely unoccupied until Friday night when they decided to arrive. Seems like their program is to just leave their shit out there and show up when they feel like it for the weekends. And when they did arrive, of course it's with blasting stereos.

Pic below for reference. It sure is nice that Krazy Kustom seems to make money off of the dunes but is also one of the contributors to fucking the dunes up. If you are considering giving your business to Krazy Kustom, don't.

 

[zhandfull]

Just curious, why single them out? Were they more obnoxious than everyone else doing the same?

 

[Wizard29]

Just curious, why single them out? Were they more obnoxious than everyone else doing the same?

Why not single them out? If they are going to be dumb enough to do it with an easily identifiable trailer that is advertising their business, they deserve it.

 

[77charger]

Ghost camping is crazy. Personally I wouldn’t feel comfy leaving anything out there unattended. Shit gets stolen on a regular weekend as it is.

I’ll air down and drive 3/4 mile off the road to my spot.

 

[bilz]

Gecko was really crowed President's day.
Most usable spots on the canel side were taken also.
My observation,15 years back there were less moho's and more toy hauler. So the truck with trailer didn't necessarily need a pad so the only needed an 1/8 acre instead of a half. We could easily drop off gecko and camp in the sand. Our group is limited now as two families have mohos also. But they arrive and stay Tuesday to Tuesday.
Worst I've seen was a park model on keyhole with a towable generator(noisy) and ran day and night. It was there on Tuesday, people arrived on Friday left Monday, trailer was still there tuesday.

 

[BingerFang]

Is “ghost camping” even legal?

 

[JFMFG]

Ya I don’t really dig singling them out and trying to detour people from their business for leaving their trailer till the weekend. Do I agree with the ghost camping. Ehhhhhh…… it was a big weekend out there with the Tatum event. I’m one of the firm believers the desert is big enough for everyone. There’s plenty of room to park in the washes etc.

 

[RiverDave]

This really necessary? To call out a guys business because he left his toy hauler vacant for a couple days?

 

[ChrisV]

 

[Wizard29]

This really necessary? To call out a guys business because he left his toy hauler vacant for a couple days?

Well, think about it, Dave. This guy is clearly not behaving in a way that indicates courtesy for others and is basically giving the finger to the rules out there. He's going to be one of the reasons Glamis ends up with a reservation system or worse restrictions.

Is that the kind of person the offroad community should support?

 

[welldigger00]

I don’t even like ghosts. I would never camp with them. Or zombies. Fuck that.

 

[RiverDave]

Well, think about it, Dave. This guy is clearly not behaving in a way that indicates courtesy for others and is basically giving the finger to the rules out there. He's going to be one of the reasons Glamis ends up with a reservation system or worse restrictions.

Is that the kind of person the offroad community should support?

I’m just saying if there’s hundreds of them why hit this guy?

 

[DLC]

If they are actually ghost camping


Rangers should document the violation and they should be fined daily after the legal limit to stay or shit gets impounded or kicked out when they arrive and pass confiscated

Rangers don’t have time - Hire a Private company and split profits w/ park

Problem fixed !

 

[JFMFG]

I’m just saying if there’s hundreds of them why hit this guy?

I’m assuming because he was in his spot

 

[Bpracing1127]

I’m just saying if there’s hundreds of them why hit this guy?

Cus he is the one dumb enough to advertise his shit.

A friend of mine ghost camps year round. His rv sits at roadrunner from Halloween till at Patrick’s day. Along with his whole group. He provides a lot of services and material to the offroad crowd including Baja racers. Very well known.

He basically goes every weekend from this dates mentioned above. Usually 3/4 days at a time. He has a turbo LS rail in his trailer plus quads when he isn’t there.

I have told him it’s shitty but he isn’t violating the rules.

 

[ChrisV]

His number is on the truck. Hit him up.

 

[NicPaus]

What did he say when you asked him about it?

 

[Wizard29]

I’m just saying if there’s hundreds of them why hit this guy?

Because he's the one we were able to see directly from our camp the entire time and be positive he was not there. We were also able to observe a lot of other people driving by in search of spots that could have used where this guy was parked, but instead had to continue looking. That's wrong. It also didn't help that he blasted his music until midnight when he was finally there.

The BLM has posted notices stating it is illegal. The ASA has put out countless notices that it is illegal and if continued could cause additional restrictions. If people are immune to these notices and choose to ignore the rules, it's time to hit them where it really hurts.

 

[rivrrts429]

Is this a call out thread?

 

[Wizard29]

Cus he is the one dumb enough to advertise his shit.

A friend of mine ghost camps year round. His rv sits at roadrunner from Halloween till at Patrick’s day. Along with his whole group. He provides a lot of services and material to the offroad crowd including Baja racers. Very well known.

He basically goes every weekend from this dates mentioned above. Usually 3/4 days at a time. He has a turbo LS rail in his trailer plus quads when he isn’t there.

I have told him it’s shitty but he isn’t violating the rules.

This...with one correction. He actually is violating the rules. It is illegal to leave your rig unoccupied and it is also illegal to have your rig inside the ISDRA for more than 14 days at a time.

With the BLM refusing to get off their ass and do something about the problem, I see why people continue to do it. Doesn't make it right though, and I think the rest of us should be taking action to the extent we can.

 

[JL95]

This a different kk than the lift company in cencal? @eand28

 

[Gelcoater]

This really necessary? To call out a guys business because he left his toy hauler vacant for a couple days?

Absofuckinlutley!

I’m just saying if there’s hundreds of them why hit this guy?

Because he has a billboard telling everyone who he is and he’s telling people (by ghost camping) Fuck You, My good time is more important than yours.

Would love to see a few tow companies work with the rangers to tow their shit out and charge the owners giant money.

...and I don’t even camp on Gecko

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Is this a call out thread?

Yes it is and we all know what the end result will be. Never works out well........never.

 

[MPHSystems]

This really necessary? To call out a guys business because he left his toy hauler vacant for a couple days?

I have no specific knowledge on this particular trailer, but the ghost camping goes on for months not days

 

[Boat 405]

I would have thought the whole fire thing last week would have made a few think twice about ghost camping. I think that towing and impounding a few ghost campers would do the trick. And this kind of thing is why I stopped going to the dunes 20 years ago. I don't miss it.

 

[rivermobster]

Absofuckinlutley!
Because he has a billboard telling everyone who he is and he’s telling people (by ghost camping) Fuck You, My good time is more important than yours.

Would love to see a few tow companies work with the rangers to tow their shit out and charge the owners giant money.

...and I don’t even camp on Gecko

 

[BingerFang]

If they are actually ghost camping


Rangers should document the violation and they should be fined daily after the legal limit to stay or shit gets impounded or kicked out when they arrive and pass confiscated

Rangers don’t have time - Hire a Private company and split profits w/ park

Problem fixed !

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That could be a good youtube channel!

 

[Deckin Around]

The only calls I ever got because of advertising on our company vehicles were people telling me my employees (or me) were driving like an a-hole. Much better to stay anonymous

If I am understanding the rules:
If the offender dropped off rigs (or it was an RV rental company) on Tuesday before the op got there on Wednesday (benefit of the doubt) and then people were there Friday then that satisfies the 72hr requirement.
The group could leave Sunday again without trailers as long as;
A. they are picked up by the following Wednesday
B. Someone comes back to stay at the camp by the following Wednesday and then they could stay until they've been there 14 Days.
@Wizard29 Are you sure they actually did violate the rules?

I don't think Ghost camping was a thing the last few times I was in Glamis 15 years ago. It's like the people leaving easy-ups on the beach overnight and not showing up until 2pm the next day.

 

[DLC]

The only calls I ever got because of advertising on our company vehicles were people telling me my employees (or me) were driving like an a-hole. Much better to stay anonymous

Or at the nudie bar ….

 

[Pivot]

There only one solution....don't go to glamis.
We stopped years ago after a few uncomfortable weekends by the train tracks. The glamis crowd can be great, but a few can really fuck it up. That's what we dealt with, so we stopped.
150k in truck, tow hauler and toys to be pissed wasnt worth it.
The sand is fun, but not that fun.

It's just not what it used to be. That's not getting old or being miserable either

 

[arch stanton]

Seems easy to enforce with modern technology just fly a drone up and down videoing the area a few times a day you would get a record that’s easy to review
It would be nice to plan a trip to arrive on a Wednesday on an off week and find a spot for a few friends that could have half a million invested in equipment

 

[FCT]

Ok Karen. At least he didn’t just leave his ez up.

 

[SW_GLASS]

This...with one correction. He actually is violating the rules. It is illegal to leave your rig unoccupied and it is also illegal to have your rig inside the ISDRA for more than 14 days at a time.

With the BLM refusing to get off their ass and do something about the problem, I see why people continue to do it. Doesn't make it right though, and I think the rest of us should be taking action to the extent we can.

I was going to say the same thing. It has been a while since I read the BLM law but last time I did the law stated that your trailer can only be in the ISDRA area for a maximum of 14 days out of a 28 consecutive day period. This has been the law for as long as I can remember but it was never enforced and in the last 5-10 years the ghost camping has gotten way out of control in my opinion.

Unfortunately nothing will change until the rangers actually start enforcing the laws. I would love to see steep daily fines for every trailer the is still there 14 days after a major holiday. Pretty sure the ghost camping will end when they have thousands of dollars in fines but that is just my opinion.

 

[HTTP404]

This really necessary? To call out a guys business because he left his toy hauler vacant for a couple days?

Yeah! He may be a potential advertiser here.

 

[n2otoofast4u]

When you walked over and asked WTF, what was his response!?

 

[Deckin Around]

Unfortunately nothing will change until the rangers actually start enforcing the laws.

"Sweets brought to the station... helps the motivation"
Stop in with some donuts and coffee and let them know for your next trip when and where you want to set-up so they can get the ghost rigs towed out of your way.

 

[Deckin Around]

When you walked over and asked WTF, what was his response!?

I think we all know that didn't happen.

 

[4Waters]

I just went to their website to check out their work and this is what comes up

 

[HTTP404]

I just went to their website to check out their work and this is what comes up

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Why did your business fail?
Because I spent 80% of my advertising budget on my truck wrap.

 

[Racey]

If they are actually ghost camping


Rangers should document the violation and they should be fined daily after the legal limit to stay or shit gets impounded or kicked out when they arrive and pass confiscated

Rangers don’t have time - Hire a Private company and split profits w/ park

Problem fixed !

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Fuck that, it's literally the Ranger's primary job....
We don't need to hire another set.

It's a 14 day camp limit if memory serves

 

[4Waters]

Fuck that, it's literally the Ranger's primary job....
We don't need to hire another set.

It's a 14 day camp limit if memory serves

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[n2otoofast4u]

I think we all know that didn't happen.

I’d like to assume different, but maybe not? Hopefully the OP talked to this guy?

 

[Backlash]

People like this will create tense situations which will draw unwanted (Or wanted) attention to the matter. Then, when enforcement begins, folks will complain that the BLM or other agency is being "Too aggressive." Complaints will pile up and the situation will get worse from there. Eventually, Glamis and others will become so overrun with rules and regulations, it will kill the entire experience. It will ruin it for everyone.

And it all started with one inconsiderate entitled asshole who thinks he's better than everyone else. That's the problem. The mob mentality. One idiot starts something, then others see what they're doing. Before you know it, you end up with a huge problem like is mentioned here.

Go back to the good old days of towing your shit out with you when you go, and dragging it back home when you leave. It isn't hard. People are just rude, lazy and entitled.

This isn't just in Glamis......it's everywhere.

 

[Wizard29]

The only calls I ever got because of advertising on our company vehicles were people telling me my employees (or me) were driving like an a-hole. Much better to stay anonymous

If I am understanding the rules:
If the offender dropped off rigs (or it was an RV rental company) on Tuesday before the op got there on Wednesday (benefit of the doubt) and then people were there Friday then that satisfies the 72hr requirement.
The group could leave Sunday again without trailers as long as;
A. they are picked up by the following Wednesday
B. Someone comes back to stay at the camp by the following Wednesday and then they could stay until they've been there 14 Days.
@Wizard29 Are you sure they actually did violate the rules?

I don't think Ghost camping was a thing the last few times I was in Glamis 15 years ago. It's like the people leaving easy-ups on the beach overnight and not showing up until 2pm the next day.

The good people we camped next to who arrived on Monday said the trailers had been parked there with nobody around since then. Sand accumulation around the tires also indicated the trailers were obviously not placed there the night before.

I’d like to assume different, but maybe not? Hopefully the OP talked to this guy?

What possible outcome could we expect would result from that? Like he'd say, "Oh, you're right. How rude we've been. We'll leave immediately!" Right.

More likely would be, "Fuck you, bro. Wanna fight?"

It wouldn't be smart for one to put themself in that situation.

 

[Wizard29]

This isn't just in Glamis......it's everywhere.

Sadly, it sure is. I can only imagine how some of the folks here kind of arguing this is okay would react if they wanted a spot in the channel but couldn't get one because someone else left their boat there for days on end. There is no difference in the asshole factor involved there.

There is, however, a difference in the enforcement factor. The channel is enforced pretty heavily for this kind of stuff. Glamis needs that too.

 

[4Waters]

Sadly, it sure is. I can only imagine how some of the folks here kind of arguing this is okay would react if they wanted a spot in the channel but couldn't get one because someone else left their boat there for days on end. There is no difference in the asshole factor involved there.

There is, however, a difference in the enforcement factor. The channel is enforced pretty heavily for this kind of stuff. Glamis needs that too.

Actually, Glamis doesn't need that heavy enforcement but unfortunately because people feel entitled heavy enforcement is coming. People were doing similar shit at the Rincon in Ventura, heavy enforcement came and it's all reservation now.

 

[Justsomeguy]

And we are off.

 

[RiverDave]

Yeah! He may be a potential advertiser here.

Jesus dude, is that really what you took from that?

 

[Kachina26]

And we are off.

Now we're off...

 

[78Southwind]

Cock Washer, I am going to have to use that one lol. @GRADS keep your cock washer shut.