Sand destroys shit…It's never made a lick of sense to me. And I'm mainly talking about Glamis.
The sand is All about power to weight, and a SxS just doesn't have it.
Now hard pack? Running around the desert, where one minute your on a dirt road, and the next minute you have to negotiate some rocky terrain?
4 wheel drive, independent suspension, is pretty tough to beat!
So it boils down to WHERE you want to recreate.
Sand? SxS's are Stoopid. LS buggy all day long. Or even a Honda or Subaru. The lighter the car the better, at the built SxS price point.
Hard pack trail running? A SxS is pretty ideal for those conditions. They can climb pretty much anything.
Just say no to the rubber band cars!
Beat me to it. I would say the biggest thing is financing. The other is ease of maintenance. Can take a sxs to the dealer for an oil change. Try to get Helton or someone like that to do an oil change for a reasonable cost to the average guy. Off the shelf parts vs custom and let’s say you lunch the gearbox in a sxs vs Mendialo. Guessing you could by a sxs for the cost of a prepped mendiola. With that being said give me to option of a class one or a sxs, taking the class 1 all day.
Shits OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive!!!
No matter how much more "Efficient" a SxS might be, and how much less expensive they are to own and operate, and how much better they might perform at KOH, I won't own one. Sorry, they're just not for me.
My pockets are pretty shallow, so to even get into the sand, it will have to be something inexpensive. Which means I have no business even talking about Class 1 cars or TTs. Our good friends have a team and I can't even afford to put new tires on one of their prerunners!
With that being said, I would take a TT every day of the week and twice on Sundays. And I won't even complain about having to climb in and out of the chassis.
Where do you see class 1s for under sxs pricing?
I haven’t seen it. Hell a Albin’s is 35k now.
I sold my Tatum dual sport LS Sequential trans, big shock absolute blast of a car last year for a Poolaris Pro R. iIt was actually a painful painful decision, but i don’t regret it a bit.
it and drop at a dealership for work. I can open the door turn the key and go! My wife can hop in and go for a ride/take to river when I’m at work. And even greater as dialed as my car was this damn thing up to big big whoops or wide F’ing open section the stock Poolaris is so much smoother and comfortable for the whole family. And I’m getting too old for the big whoops and anything over 70mph really. 
Just for reference, i cost me about 4k to rebuild my 2D and it wasn't even broken. I noticed some excessive end play on the input shaft and took it in on the advice of a few people.
Specially when you have the VOX sensitivity really high on your coms and the radio starts amplifying it to your headsets.Pros:
The sound of getting on it warms your soul.
Look at the results of the Mint....
Depends...with or without motor, what trans, etc. Then you have the SxS. Obviously we aren't talking a Ranger with a cooler and exhaust. Some of these guys get into big dollars it seems with cages, shocks and motor stuff.
Some guys are hard on equipment, some guys are not. I think your question is subjective to who’s running the car and how often
Which proves my theory. A class 1 with no drivetrain is pretty useless to most and will take a bare minimum of 20k for engine and trans. To do it right is 100k+Depends...with or without motor, what trans, etc. Then you have the SxS. Obviously we aren't talking a Ranger with a cooler and exhaust. Some of these guys get into big dollars it seems with cages, shocks and motor stuff.
To me, it seems like the old days of street racing in the 90's. A Honda with a fart can...or a Honda with a turbo, fuel management and a list of parts that came in boxes with Japanese writing. The high rollin' Honda may beat the 440 six pack car, this is true, but damn, that 440 screaming was something else
You are right but I wouldn’t use the word same.
True, but a stone stock rzr is nothing special either.
I service the CV's every season and change the oil and filters after every trip. Transmission comes out every 4-6 years depending on when it starts making noise. Every other season I tear the car all the way down and replace all the chassis hardware. Other than that, if you buy a quality car, you shouldn't have to many issues unless you really wad it up. I do all my own work, have the shop space and tools necessary. Turning wrenches is my stress relief after working all day. Most evenings I am in the shop working on something.
The addiction to the skinny pedal is real.Some guys are hard on equipment, some guys are not. I think your question is subjective to who’s running the car and how often
This would be a great answer form @SeanRitchie
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Just looked at the pic, "S45D". When I was duning, a Mendeola was about it. I had a swing axle car, so had a VW drag guy build the guts and gusset the case. This buggy the guy asked me to drain the E85, and run some race gas through it...kind of hillbilly pickeling. I jumped in it to fire it up and real quick figured out it wasn't the old stuff I was used to
The unholy union of a bus box and an Allison...big boys toys!
and everyone leaves a winner
that's a mendeola sequential with the bigger ring and pinion. Good trans there... the best mendeola you can get. Levels above that would be some Fortin models and AlbinsView attachment 1486588
Just looked at the pic, "S45D". When I was duning, a Mendeola was about it. I had a swing axle car, so had a VW drag guy build the guts and gusset the case. This buggy the guy asked me to drain the E85, and run some race gas through it...kind of hillbilly pickeling. I jumped in it to fire it up and real quick figured out it wasn't the old stuff I was used to
In October he lunched second or third, so that's probably why it's so shiny and pretty. The ring gear portion looks like it can house a pretty substantial gear set though. I like the stuff, but my bank account is more in the spectator range...and the cheap seats at that.
