WELCOME TO RIVER DAVES PLACE

Let's talk oils

angiebaby

Mountain Mama
Joined
Sep 24, 2007
Messages
4,936
Reaction score
7,078
Cooking oil

All you cooking aficionados, can we talk a minute about oils? Of course, there is no "best" oil, as they serve different purposes. I used to use olive oil almost exclusively, but then I learned a little more about smoke points. When I purchased my new non-stick pans a couple of years ago, the instructions specifically stated, "no olive oil, no spray oils." I realize I don't need to put oil in the pan, but for some things, like cooking onions, garlic, or mushrooms, I like to put a little oil in the pan first. And yes, I know that olive oil really should be used in dressings and other uncooked things, but I use it when I cook Italian too.


So I researched a little at the time, and grapeseed oil was supposedly a healthy oil, especially for someone with a family history of heart disease. So that is what I switched to. No flavor to speak of, high smoke point, etc.

Now I hear that all seed oils are bad. Bad bad bad. Now avocado oil is the go-to? Does it have a flavor? Is it going to make my potatoes taste funny like the coconut oil did? Peanut and sesame both have very distinct flavors. What is a good higher-heat oil to use? I don't use high heat in my non-stick, but I use a lot of cast iron and Blackstone.

So what oils are you all using for different applications? My grapeseed oil is about gone, so what do I replace it with? #firstworldproblems
 
  • Like
Reactions: TPC

GreenEnergy28

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 1, 2022
Messages
624
Reaction score
1,800
I rely on my wife for this kind of stuff. Outside of listening to Joe Rogan, I don't put much effort into investigating this stuff.
Now, with that said, I use avocado oil to cook with. Supposed to have a higher heat range than most cooking oils. I use it on my outdoor griddle as well as when I grill onions, mushrooms, jalapenos, etc. It works well, and no taste that comes through. Definitely stay away from seed oils. Apparently, those were designed as machine lubricant originally...LOL
 

NicPaus

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 15, 2010
Messages
14,901
Reaction score
16,566
I use coconut oil. Gold pots peeled and cut into 1" pieces fried with a dash of lawrys garlic salt. Definitely tastes different compared to other oils but my favorite.

I used Avocado oil for a while. Exs daughter was allergic to most others. It was ok. No real taste. Still have half a bottle.
 

rivermobster

Club Banned
Joined
Dec 28, 2009
Messages
61,002
Reaction score
63,246
Cooking oil

All you cooking aficionados, can we talk a minute about oils? Of course, there is no "best" oil, as they serve different purposes. I used to use olive oil almost exclusively, but then I learned a little more about smoke points. When I purchased my new non-stick pans a couple of years ago, the instructions specifically stated, "no olive oil, no spray oils." I realize I don't need to put oil in the pan, but for some things, like cooking onions, garlic, or mushrooms, I like to put a little oil in the pan first. And yes, I know that olive oil really should be used in dressings and other uncooked things, but I use it when I cook Italian too.


So I researched a little at the time, and grapeseed oil was supposedly a healthy oil, especially for someone with a family history of heart disease. So that is what I switched to. No flavor to speak of, high smoke point, etc.

Now I hear that all seed oils are bad. Bad bad bad. Now avocado oil is the go-to? Does it have a flavor? Is it going to make my potatoes taste funny like the coconut oil did? Peanut and sesame both have very distinct flavors. What is a good higher-heat oil to use? I don't use high heat in my non-stick, but I use a lot of cast iron and Blackstone.

So what oils are you all using for different applications? My grapeseed oil is about gone, so what do I replace it with? #firstworldproblems

Your first statement is correct. There is no best. Different oils for different uses.

Now as far as what the talking heads say is good or bad for you?

Eggs are bad. No there not! Yes, they are. No, they are not! And so on and so on and so on. 🙄

I use Canola, when I don't want any added flavor.

Olive oils, when I want added flavor.

Avocado oil when I want to crank up the heat!

That's my 2 cents. 😜
 

FreeBird236

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2012
Messages
14,201
Reaction score
13,627
Lard for the win.😂


Seriously I don't really know, but my wife seems to use a lot of olive oil, and some canola. It has changed over the years, mostly for what are currently considered healthy.
 

sintax

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 7, 2008
Messages
7,151
Reaction score
11,991
Yea, I'm kinda with @rivermobster

I have everything in my pantry.

My go-to reach is avocado though, its neutral flavor and high smoke point makes it perfect for 99% of stuff, and its supposed to be "better for you". a great quality EVOO is also there when you want the flavor.

I have cheap canola / corn oils for frying / seasoning pans

I DO have a tub of waygu tallow in the fridge also, i have cooked with it, but i mainly use it for BBQ
 

mjc

Retired Neighbor
Joined
Jan 3, 2008
Messages
12,555
Reaction score
10,199
We are just down to avocado now for almost everything. Sesame for stir fry. For onions, mushrooms and that stuff I still like real butter.
 

Rajobigguy

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 21, 2015
Messages
5,127
Reaction score
11,476
I use avocado oil for pan frying and canola spray for air frying or if something just needs a coat.
 

Desert Whaler

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 28, 2020
Messages
5,087
Reaction score
18,903
Related / not related.

Someone told me once that the one of the secret ingredients to Gladstones Yellowtail recipe (fish) was to use soybean oil . . . so i tried it and it was very good.
Yellowtail is a pretty strong fish, even if well cared for . . . and while I like most all fish, sometimes the strong stuff can be a bit much.
The soybean oil seemed to really knock down some of that fishyness but kept all the good flavor.

As far as the others . . . I'm a fan of the 'Cornhusker Kitchen' Duck Fat Spray . . . I'm sure it's no good for you, but it sure works well.
 

Justfishing

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 23, 2016
Messages
1,307
Reaction score
1,992
Cooking oil

All you cooking aficionados, can we talk a minute about oils? Of course, there is no "best" oil, as they serve different purposes. I used to use olive oil almost exclusively, but then I learned a little more about smoke points. When I purchased my new non-stick pans a couple of years ago, the instructions specifically stated, "no olive oil, no spray oils." I realize I don't need to put oil in the pan, but for some things, like cooking onions, garlic, or mushrooms, I like to put a little oil in the pan first. And yes, I know that olive oil really should be used in dressings and other uncooked things, but I use it when I cook Italian too.


So I researched a little at the time, and grapeseed oil was supposedly a healthy oil, especially for someone with a family history of heart disease. So that is what I switched to. No flavor to speak of, high smoke point, etc.

Now I hear that all seed oils are bad. Bad bad bad. Now avocado oil is the go-to? Does it have a flavor? Is it going to make my potatoes taste funny like the coconut oil did? Peanut and sesame both have very distinct flavors. What is a good higher-heat oil to use? I don't use high heat in my non-stick, but I use a lot of cast iron and Blackstone.

So what oils are you all using for different applications? My grapeseed oil is about gone, so what do I replace it with? #firstworldproblems
You want to look at the oil to see if it is omega 3 or 6. Grape seed oil is omega 6 and i wouldn't use it. Omega 6 is inflammatory.

I would use lard or tallow if i wasnt using some omega 3 like avacado, olive etc.

Animal fats are healthy and nutrious. I would not avoid them.

I stay as far away from soy bean oil and vegetables oil.typically made from gmo buteven if not they are nothealthy
 
Last edited:

JDKRXW

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 24, 2008
Messages
3,171
Reaction score
4,361
With the shit going on, worldwide, with olive oil lately it's probably time to switch to avocado oil ... and my go to; butter.
 

Wheeler

I'm just here to bitch about others negativity.😁
Joined
Dec 25, 2007
Messages
24,921
Reaction score
39,179
Your first statement is correct. There is no best. Different oils for different uses.

Now as far as what the talking heads say is good or bad for you?

Eggs are bad. No there not! Yes, they are. No, they are not! And so on and so on and so on. 🙄

I use Canola, when I don't want any added flavor.

Olive oils, when I want added flavor.

Avocado oil when I want to crank up the heat!

That's my 2 cents. 😜
Can you suggest a boating site I could join?
 

angiebaby

Mountain Mama
Joined
Sep 24, 2007
Messages
4,936
Reaction score
7,078
Your first statement is correct. There is no best. Different oils for different uses.

Now as far as what the talking heads say is good or bad for you?

Eggs are bad. No there not! Yes, they are. No, they are not! And so on and so on and so on. 🙄

I use Canola, when I don't want any added flavor.

Olive oils, when I want added flavor.

Avocado oil when I want to crank up the heat!

That's my 2 cents. 😜

Exactly. I was told grapeseed was the best because it contained resveratrol, which is good for the heart (same stuff as red wine). Now I'm told it's bad stuff. I understand the issue is the processing of the seed oil, and that they have to use chemicals to extract the oil, which is why I stopped used rapeseed, aka canola, oil and switched back to vegetable oil for things like fried chicken and chicken-fried steak.

I feel that, in general, the more close to nature, the better. So yes, I eat eggs. Usually, the pasture-raised because they have tasty, vitamin-rich, orange yolks, unless I can get them from the neighbors. I also use real butter instead of chemically processed margarine or blends and save my bacon grease for breakfast potatoes and a few other things.
 
Last edited:

rivermobster

Club Banned
Joined
Dec 28, 2009
Messages
61,002
Reaction score
63,246
Can you suggest a boating site I could join?

Possibly, but you'd probably be banned in short order.

I guess you're stuck here with the rest of the inmates. Poor you. You'll just have to make the best of it! 🤷‍♂️
 

rivermobster

Club Banned
Joined
Dec 28, 2009
Messages
61,002
Reaction score
63,246
Related / not related.

Someone told me once that the one of the secret ingredients to Gladstones Yellowtail recipe (fish) was to use soybean oil . . . so i tried it and it was very good.
Yellowtail is a pretty strong fish, even if well cared for . . . and while I like most all fish, sometimes the strong stuff can be a bit much.
The soybean oil seemed to really knock down some of that fishyness but kept all the good flavor.

As far as the others . . . I'm a fan of the 'Cornhusker Kitchen' Duck Fat Spray . . . I'm sure it's no good for you, but it sure works well.

I've seen em using duck fat on the Bobby Flay shows lately. Sounds so freaking gross! Lol
 

Markus

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 3, 2022
Messages
637
Reaction score
769
Use clarified butter for pan frying. You can find it at Costco. Indians call it ghee. (Not the Native Americans on the reservation - the ones from India).

Use peanut oil or beef drippings for deep frying.

Other oils have their uses in salad dressings, mayonnaise, etc.
 

TPC

Wrenching Dad
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
32,590
Reaction score
27,812
Olive oil for most everything but peanut for deep frying.

Avocado is hard to clean off cookware but I use the spray occasionally for room temp food prep.
 

angiebaby

Mountain Mama
Joined
Sep 24, 2007
Messages
4,936
Reaction score
7,078
Olive oil for most everything but peanut for deep frying.

Avocado is hard to clean off cookware but I use the spray occasionally for room temp food prep.
That is good to know. Has anyone else noticed this about avocado oil? What kind of pan, Ross? Cast iron? stainless? Non-stick?
 
  • Like
Reactions: TPC

sintax

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 7, 2008
Messages
7,151
Reaction score
11,991
That is good to know. Has anyone else noticed this about avocado oil? What kind of pan, Ross? Cast iron? stainless? Non-stick?

I have not personally noticed this with avocado oil.

I cook 85% of the time in cast iron, 10% carbon steel, 5% stainless
 

Willie B

aberrant member
Joined
Sep 7, 2008
Messages
9,619
Reaction score
11,181
… From the world of vegetarianism… And the book the PH Miricle, by Dr. Robert O Young… No, heated oils whatsoever🤷🏽‍♀️
 

SoCalZero

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 15, 2013
Messages
1,258
Reaction score
1,930
Avocado oil for almost everything.
Olive oil for lower heat and you want the flavor.
Bacon-Up for the real flavor
 

TPC

Wrenching Dad
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
32,590
Reaction score
27,812
That is good to know. Has anyone else noticed this about avocado oil? What kind of pan, Ross? Cast iron? stainless? Non-stick?
Lodge Dutch oven and some casserole dishes seems to need extra effort and the hot splatters take serious effort to clean off the stove if avocado. Gets varnish like.
 

Brian

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 4, 2009
Messages
867
Reaction score
605
Avocado for just about everything. Shit ain't cheap though.
 

Sleek-Jet

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
13,584
Reaction score
17,433
Olive oil and butter in equal parts for most cooking, the butter raises the smoke point of the oil.

For really hot searing either grape seed oil or avocado oil.

Peanut oil for frying unless I can get my hands on beef talow.
 
Last edited:

TimeBandit

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 18, 2019
Messages
2,712
Reaction score
6,168
So I heard about a guy and his wife who rented hotel rooms and stapled visqueen up to the 3' high mark on the walls.

Then spread out a few gallons of ???? oil and then played "catch the piggee".

Is there a "right" oil for this??
 

SBMech

Fixes Broken Stuff
Joined
Jul 25, 2012
Messages
11,627
Reaction score
20,793
Real Butter, Bacon grease made by me. Taco shells get Wesson or Pork-Manteca for the real deal.

Best for your body by far. Processed seed oils are by and large pretty terrible for you. It's why no one looses weight eating french fries in peanut oil....rofl.
 

Happy Smitty

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 9, 2019
Messages
1,249
Reaction score
3,175
So I heard about a guy and his wife who rented hotel rooms and stapled visqueen up to the 3' high mark on the walls.

Then spread out a few gallons of ???? oil and then played "catch the piggee".

Is there a "right" oil for this??
How do you clean up after that?
 

Sharky

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2023
Messages
1,867
Reaction score
6,961
Olive oil

Lard

Butter


Peanut oil for deep frying. I make my own fried chicken.
 

petie6464

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 19, 2009
Messages
1,457
Reaction score
2,857
Clarified butter, make it every few months. (Ghee for you🌈 people) Egg and some baked dishes.

One source Olive oil without additives. Italian and lite fry diahes.

Bacon fat for flavor.

Pork fat for some Mexican dishes.

Beef Talo for beef searing/dishes.

Coconut oil for same fish dishes with clarified butter for some white fish.

I don't use corn, peanut or conola oils, they taste like shit and you can go to a restaurant of your choice for that swill.
 
Top